Carl-Richard

Answer the question.

Do you know the difference between a sense perception and pure consciousness?

Imagine that you're auditioning for a play. You're sitting in the audience with the other auditionees while watching each person go up on stage and performing their rendition of the character. You're all very good actors and have practiced your lines very well. You all know the same lines and you understand the emotional appeal of the character and how the actor needs to feel during the act. You go up on stage and deliver your rendition of the character. After you're done and the audience gives their applause, you sit back down again with the other auditionees who just delivered their act. You talk to some of them and you say: "ah, now I understand how you guys felt up there! I was very nervous in the beginning, but when I got to the very emotional part, I remembered your guys' delivery and it seemed like I managed to pull it off as well". Some of them answer: "yeah, didn't that part feel amazing once you were able to get into the zone and deeply express the pain and sorrow of the character?" And you answer: "oh yes, it was very moving". Now, out from those experiences, what on earth would indicate that it was only you who experienced the emotional depth of the character, or that it was only you who experienced other people delivering their rendition of the character? I believe that solipsism can only be a result of being so stuck inside your intellectual mind that it overshines any obvious clues from other dimensions of life, i.e. the more social and emotional dimensions. You have to deny all your experiences of deeply connecting with people and understanding their thoughts and feelings. Again, if this is not what you mean by solipsism, you should drop the term.

Cessation is just another term for the pure consciousness mystical experience, or ego death, or samadhi, or awakening, where all sense perceptions disappear. There exists neural correlates for this (the Default Mode Network is a very good one). No. I think it's nonsensical. To call yourself a solipsist, you have to conflate sense perceptions with pure consciousness. Pure consciousness is in its most fundamental form devoid of all qualities, and all qualities arise within it. To look at an other person and think "that person is nothing like me" is such a juvenile way of approaching reality, it's ridiculous. You are not the person you think you are. The person is just sense perceptions. To think that you are the only person that truly exists is ludicrous. If this is an inaccurate characterization of your views, stop using the solipsism term to describe your views.

Largely correct, but you're projecting an expectation onto Leo of being the usual spiritual teacher (and maybe that is largely on him for not making that clear, which most of my critiques of him are about). The psychonaut doesn't have to care much about gradually unwinding the ego. It's mostly tangential to their mission. Also, the point about friction creating the reaction to the experience is partially true, but the state itself does have an inherent quality to it. That is why you hear spiritual teachers talk about your absolute nature being happiness, peace or bliss, and why spiritual teachers act differently at all from normal people. The friction can indeed make it overwhelmingly blissful, but that is partially because it reflects the quality of the state. If you instead experience a supremely hellish state of consciousness, that will not feel like bliss.

What — a person collapsing? That is why you need to watch sports in general. This has always been a thing.

Proves what wrong?

Ask people who claim to know what it means. You don't actually have to go outside the forum though. Just ask @michaelcycle00 The Western notion of "mind" (and "self") is flimsy, and most people are not able to distinguish between perceptions and consciousness.

Then you're complicit in the cultural appropriation. Ask any person outside of this forum what solipsism means.

So what is telepathy? What is empathy even? How can you pick up on people's internal experiences and experience something as if you were them? Is that just a hoax your brain performs for no reason, or are you actually getting a taste of how it's like to be them?

He actually agrees with me. The problem is that he culturally appropriates the term, giving it a different meaning than most people are familiar with. That is partially why he took down the solipsism video and stopped talking much about it, because he experienced such a huge backlash from many people on the forum. The word "solipsism" is overwhelmingly associated with a Western idea with Western assumptions, and it's blatantly obvious when looking at the amount of confusion about what Leo really means. It's socially irresponsible to culturally appropriate a well-established word in this way, especially something like solipsism which is an existential minefield.

@Tyler Robinson Chill.

Solipsism is thinking that the perceptions you associate with your human experience are absolute and that there is nothing beyond them. But there is something beyond your perceptions: it's consciousness. The solipsists thinks: "there are some perceptions present: my body, which feels like it's at "the center"; an environment, which surrounds my body; and some other bodies in that environment. No other bodies can be at the center, because that is how it appears". That is a mistake. The feeling that your body is "at the center" is an illusion. You can prove this by witnessing your current body disappear and remaining as pure consciousness. Then, "the center" is just seen as pure infinite void. You can also smoke salvia and become a window, or have various types of out-of-body experiences. So if "the center" can be decoupled from your body, then you can't attribute "the center" to your body in the first place. In reality, all bodies are at the center (and not at the center at the same time).

Experience the cessation of all perceptions, of the "center" of consciousness falling away, and see through the illusion of solipsism.

You would take a lethal shot, but your skin would fly off your face before that

I would like to know the reasoning the university uses.

Not true.

Happens to me all the time lol

"I know him, he would not do such a thing". If anyone were to coerce people into doing sex work, it would be Andrew Tate. But yeah, let the courts decide.

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You should explore many different perspectives of spirituality and of thought in general. The process of a Western Orange person discovering New-Age spirituality is really just that person finding one new perspective. Although all types of development are somewhat correlated, spiritual development is not the same as cognitive development, and SD is largely a cognitively oriented model. So if the focus is on cognition, you should focus on increasing the amounts of perspectives of thought that you're familiar with, and that's really not as simple as flexing your meditation muscle in your basement. That would be like viewing fitness as only doing bicep curls through the entire workout. It's also not just about thought as in highly abstract intellectual thinking, but as in experiencing all aspects of life. How does a blue collar worker experience life? How does a surfer experience life? A pornstar? A politician? And this one is very interesting: how does a royal family member experience life? Imagine being born into that role, where you're one out of millions of people, and literally everybody knows you and expect you to fulfill that role. Imagine being born into a royal family in the modern world of social media, in a highly progressive constitutional monarchy in Scandinavia. How does this person perceive themselves, their identity and their insecurities; hell — their sense of reality? That one is of course very hard to imagine, but it's those kinds of questions that become interesting.

As mentioned by other people, spirituality is not one thing. You have spirituality at all stages. The way you seem to be presenting it sounds like an Orange discovering New-Age spirituality (the type of individualistic spirituality you see in the West, e.g. Advaita Vedanta, the mindfulness movement, Western buddhism, occultism, energies, etc.) and becoming more multi-perspectival that way and moving into Green. Green is the last step before Yellow, but will it take you to Yellow by itself? Probably not.

@Onecirrus Yikes.

Obeying your emotions, your need for safety, or demand for respect by slapping some dude's ass, is fundamentally about looking out for your own ass. By following society's rules, society will be looking out for some of your ass, but you'll have to trade away some of the emotionally driven behavior that you otherwise use to look out for your own ass. You can't have your ass and eat it too (?)