Carl-Richard

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You should explore many different perspectives of spirituality and of thought in general. The process of a Western Orange person discovering New-Age spirituality is really just that person finding one new perspective. Although all types of development are somewhat correlated, spiritual development is not the same as cognitive development, and SD is largely a cognitively oriented model. So if the focus is on cognition, you should focus on increasing the amounts of perspectives of thought that you're familiar with, and that's really not as simple as flexing your meditation muscle in your basement. That would be like viewing fitness as only doing bicep curls through the entire workout. It's also not just about thought as in highly abstract intellectual thinking, but as in experiencing all aspects of life. How does a blue collar worker experience life? How does a surfer experience life? A pornstar? A politician? And this one is very interesting: how does a royal family member experience life? Imagine being born into that role, where you're one out of millions of people, and literally everybody knows you and expect you to fulfill that role. Imagine being born into a royal family in the modern world of social media, in a highly progressive constitutional monarchy in Scandinavia. How does this person perceive themselves, their identity and their insecurities; hell — their sense of reality? That one is of course very hard to imagine, but it's those kinds of questions that become interesting.

As mentioned by other people, spirituality is not one thing. You have spirituality at all stages. The way you seem to be presenting it sounds like an Orange discovering New-Age spirituality (the type of individualistic spirituality you see in the West, e.g. Advaita Vedanta, the mindfulness movement, Western buddhism, occultism, energies, etc.) and becoming more multi-perspectival that way and moving into Green. Green is the last step before Yellow, but will it take you to Yellow by itself? Probably not.

@Onecirrus Yikes.

Obeying your emotions, your need for safety, or demand for respect by slapping some dude's ass, is fundamentally about looking out for your own ass. By following society's rules, society will be looking out for some of your ass, but you'll have to trade away some of the emotionally driven behavior that you otherwise use to look out for your own ass. You can't have your ass and eat it too (?)

I'll clarify though: I also take notes about many other things than insights or ideas, but they're more daily things like remembering to do something, and I'm actually very diligent about doing that. I think note-taking habits are really important, but just make it meaningful and not some dry robotic thing.

I'm not for taking notes as some mechanical chore. If I have an insight which I feel is important, I have a notepad for that. I write those down irrespective of whether I'm reading or not, but of course, they may arise while I'm reading. Do what feels the most meaningful to you

Is it justice or is it just looking out for your own ass? Conceding to society's rules is just a bit more sophisticated way of looking out for your own ass.

Nuh-uh-uh, that's where you're wrong. Learning an abstract concept still effects your life in subtle ways and in more overt ways, even if you don't bring it to mind ever again. Besides, I think forgetting most of the things you read is an unreasonable expectation, unless your reading is totally disorganized and not related to any previously acquired knowledge. You don't just forget about some very important associations your mind makes. I can't begin to talk about how much what I've learned the last 10 years has impacted my life today. Almost 10 years ago, I was super-interested in neuropharmacology and learning about mechanisms like "up/downregulation", and today, my understanding of those mechanisms are directly associated with some of my latest insights about spirituality, health and meaning that radically changed my life.

True. Living in a society with rules is a bargain. You can't let your emotions completely loose all the time. That is also a part of being an adult. You concede some of your immediate desires to higher structures, be it your society, your future goals, your morality etc.

Firstly, you won't forget everything, and secondly, you embody the knowledge in your life by acting on it when you learn it. This happens both automatically in more subtle ways and intentionally when pursuing new ideas. For example, imagine that you read about the benefits of good posture. Sure, you forget 90% of the details of the physiological explanations behind why it's good, but you'll still probably strive to have a better posture more than before, and you'll experience the benefits of that passively over time, impacting all aspects of your life, and you'll probably also be inspired to read more about ways to easily optimize your body on a day-to-day basis.

True. That is why you should generally aim to attend to the problem that the emotion is trying to address as it happens. In this case, he wasn't present when it happened, so it wasn't really an option. In fact, if he was present, it probably wouldn't have happened at all. There are cases where physical force is appropriate (e.g. to neutralize an immediate threat), but this kind of retributive vigilante justice is of course not that. Other than that, aggression can occur in subtler forms where it will compel you to take appropriate actions, solving the problem and the emotion subsiding. That is the reason why OP came here to vent, because he couldn't solve the problem in the moment.

If he cares about not ending up in jail.

Letting go of control doesn't mean you'll necessarily leave your wife. You just have to be open to that possibility.

Do you even watch sports?

That's hilarious: I remember watching The Incredibles as a child, and I think that scene alone shaped how I view work for the rest of my life ?

Call it a schism, or two.

It's not often, but yes. I usually just write things down in my notepad. Last week, I was driving in bad snowy weather, and I lost steering while braking down at a slight turn before a roundabout and ended up in the opposing file (traffick running the opposite way). Luckily, there were no other cars there except one behind me. I felt ok the whole ride after that, but when I came home, I could feel that I hadn't processed the emotional reaction. I talked to my brother about what happened, and I think that helped. I didn't tell my mom though, but I felt I should've. That was one case of choosing social responsibility over emotional expression (me telling her would've only frightened her).

Snake

Doing what?

God realization doesn't even mean anything on this forum.

An emotion is an externalizing force. It moves outward into the environment. It compels you to take action. If you resist that compulsion and instead internalize the energy, that is what repression/suppression is. It can be appropriate to do in some situations with respect to social niceties, but it's generally tearing on your mind and body and should be avoided as much as possible. The OP should probably not punch the guy who touched his girlfriend if he cares about social responsibilities, but he should then find a different way to externalize the emotion, and writing it down on the forum is one way to do that. It's funny, because it's generally only guys who tend to struggle understanding this. Girls know intuitively that when you talk about your emotions, it is intrinsically healing. It breaks the toxic cycles of rumination and creates some linear direction of the energy, in a way that simulates the externalizing movement that the emotion was intended for in the moment it arises.

If psychiatric conditions have genetic components, then spiritual giftedness surely has genetic components as well. It's not that hard, is it?

Pent-up, obsessive and cyclical anger is what is unhealthy. Expressing anger when the situation calls for it is what the emotion evolved to do.