Carl-Richard

@Nahm is pretty spiritually attuned, the dozens of other people he banned (who spoke unapologetically about non-duality and called out Leo on his behavior early when it started to spiral downwards), and also those who conspired together with Nahm to create a new forum (and subsequently got banned). To me, the post-2021 era was a spiritual dark age for the forum and we're still living through it.

Zurew knew the potential outcome, but sometimes integrity requires sacrifice. The smartest and most spiritually attuned people on the forum eventually end up getting banned. That's the pattern.

He makes a lot of points that his "incomprehensive style" was to blame, but parts of his post and his overall behavior on the forum for the last 5 years points in another direction (and as if Leo himself didn't have a problem with people "not understanding" him; he did, still does, according to him). There have been direct threats to ban people talking about non-duality; there have been people who were banned for talking about non-duality in a way that opposed Leo's teachings. It's all documented in the cult discussion thread which you will now get banned for participating in (in a way that does not agree with Leo).

The joke is I don't think a cult is a bad thing yet you can get banned for thinking something is a cult 😃 Leo thinks it's a bad thing of course, and disagreeing with him on that fact (or whether Actualized.org is a cult) is supposedly a red line for him. But that was not why the three mods got demoted (thinking Actualized.org is a cult), not as far as I could gather. But even the reason those mods got demoted and not at least two more, seems inconsistent to me and there was no explanation (except "vibe") on that inconsistency. The stated reason for my demotion (and presumably the others) was I purportedly "like to undermine some of the deepest things" Leo is trying to teach. Presumably, Leo's deepest teachings are not about whether Actualized.org is a cult or not. I think it was about calling his teachings (in the perspective of non-dualism) "Maya", illusion, form, experience, relative, not Absolute (which if that qualifies as "undermining" his deepest teachings, then fair enough, dramatic, but hey, if you believe you believe). But then, the two not-demoted mods I'm referring to seem to regularly echo my points in that realm. So again, it seems inconsistent. But hey, I've been speaking about inconsistencies quite some time now, it's not that I'm expecting anything different. Just know it's not only about whether Actualized.org is a cult or not that you should be afraid to discuss openly. It's about discussing non-dualism, Enlightenment, in contrast to Leo's teachings. This fact I believe was well-established already 5 years ago when @Nahm was demoted. Him speaking "incomprehensively" I don't believe was the reason. It was him actively "undermining" Leo's teachings. History repeats itself.

I think Actualized.org is a new religious movement, a social group with deviant beliefs relative to society with religious tendencies. Now ban me ;P

@Natasha Tori Maru @Inliytened1 😅 Just curious, how often do you guys look up unfamiliar words when you read them?

@Inliytened1 Bruh I meant to say "divergence", not "convergence" 🫠 I can understand the confusion now.

"I don't categorize him, I just describe him using a category". 🥴 Well, I don't care about "accolades" or "being a great teacher like those others". I care about what is actually being said.

What kind of research are you doing?

If you want to categorize Leo as grandiose, you can at least categorize yourself as a non-dual person. Non-dual people tend to be allergic to categorization, so that's not far off And some of them seem to be allergic to categorization more when it suits them rather than as a consistent principle 🤭 If you don't get the point of talking of one's own view in clear terms and not conflating one's view with others, then do that. I'm just providing a suggestion, something which I think makes sense.

Bruh 😂 When he says being a backflipping alien mouse is one of the highest states of consciousness he has been in, a non-dual person would say that's Maya/illusion/form/"experience". When a non-dual person talks about "higher consciousness", they don't talk about alien mice or turning into an alien on camera. They talk about something more "vacuous", like Being, presence, is-ness. And that's not Maya, it's truth.

If Leo wanted to end his beef with non-dual spiritual people, he would go in the philosopher direction of finding an own term for what he is about rather than siphon it under existing words like "consciousness" or "awakening". That's the true alpha/sigma move. Then you can actually say "you don't know what I'm talking about" and it would make more sense. But if you instead want to use existing terms and create a hierarchy where you're on the top and you get to judge and compare, then of course it makes sense to keep using the same terms. The point of divergence is that what non-dual people call fantasy and Maya (forms, experiences), Leo calls higher levels of consciousness. Some suggestions: Infinitability — the degree to which you have uncovered the realm of form through your experience, approaching the infinite. Formiousness. Multitudiousness. Experienciousness. Leo can still use words like consciousness and awakening, but if he also gives such definitions for the ways in which he is different from other approaches (I believe existing terms like "Alien Consciousness" are ill-defined and don't capture his larger approach), it's more understandable to act as a leading (if not a #1) arbiter of that perspective. This is not a new suggestion of mine, I suggested this 5 years ago with the "psychonautics vs spirituality" distinction. But this is perhaps more descriptive of the ontological differences rather than the methodological ones (psychonautics, with its association to psychedelics, can tend to be viewed more as a method than what is being aimed at).

"Hate" is a strong word. It's more like call it what it is when it's brought attention to rather than ignore it or be in denial. And of course when grandiosity is defended through less than kind and virtuous means, that should also be called what it is.

A wind-up toy can walk for a bit before it stops, yes.

When it's one's own culture/ancestors, it's even more powerful because you "were" them and the identification is more obvious (simple "our side", in-group vs out-group dynamic), but it even happens with other cultures, given sufficient distance into the past. You might feel more pulled to justify the ills of your own ancestors (just like you justify your own ills today), while other people in the past you just view as more neutral because their ills don't affect you (you don't perhaps feel as pulled to justify them but simply ignore them).

AI Chatbots are like calculators. If you give them the right input, they can perform the most incredible tasks a human could not perform in 100x the time. But it stops about right there.

I don't think it was a full enlightenment, limbo state remember? Anyways, one glimpse, many glimpses, doesn't change the fundamental point really.

A feeling of responsibility to help someone in need vs responsibility for them getting to that place are not the same thing.

I'm just preemptively clenching my anus for when somebody points at me in the same fashion to explain comments like your's and threads like Zeroguy's, "this is your creation", since I started talking about cults and all. And Leo did not find it funny at all let's say that.

@AION Bruh stop. If there was something that created Connor, it was Ayahuasca and his bipolar tendencies.

A glimpse into truth doesn't fix an unstable ego. It can start the process of fixing it. But it doesn't automatically fix itself. A radical experience can leave a lasting imprint and cause what seems like serenity on the surface, and it can also cause a radical neurotic and obsessive bungee smack. Bipolar mania has many of the signs of neurosis and obsession, that you get hyper-fixated on certain things and it seems extremely profound, but there is also a restlessness and resistance. A manic person who is not resisting is just in bliss, their mind is silent, where does the energy go? To create bliss. That's especially how kundalini awakening can either cause immense bliss or immense contraction and not coincidentally mania. You're just upping the energy levels. How you deal with it, how reactive your ego is or self-fueled it is, that's what dictates whether it's chaotic and difficult or calm and pleasant. A subtle nuance is that your mind could probably still be "psychotic" while being in a non-dual state, but that would have to be in the realm of thought content ("thought disorder") rather than immense contraction and the associated restlessness, neurosis, perhaps more in the direction of schizophrenia than bipolar mania (although both see worsening of symptoms under elevated stress and energy levels). Like you could imagine someone who has immense calm but their mind is simply computing things quite differently than other people.

I asked Nick Fuentes "Nick you mention non-dualism/perennialism sometimes. Is there a baby in the bathwater there (mystical experience)? U had one?" and he answered "I've never had a mystical experience, no". But he seems to know what it is because he answered it immediately (not surprising of course if you know about non-dualism/perennialism). But man, I was expecting like an answer on why non-dualism/perennialism is bullshit and why Christianity is the goat but he just skimmed right over that :Z It's at 4:20:36: https://rumble.com/v7ciea8-america-first-ep.-1713.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_f

How so? Can anybody link direct information from the police and not news articles that allege the police said something?

I post a lot about virtuosity (sheer technical skill), but on the other "side" you have people who are very into songwriting and creating a certain refined sound perhaps by chasing an internal vision of what they want to see. A band that has recently stood out to me there is Sybreed. Think Krautrock, industrial, Rammstein, with prog and djent elements, and then just this soulfulness that is hard to pin down but it's just there, pure clear inspiration. Another band like this is Cynic (similarly ecclectic but still highly visionary and intuitively attuned; in fact I know of no other band that sounds like Cynic even in terms of the genre, not just the visionary signature).

I had a thought that what most "shredders" (people who play fast guitar) do is their either don't improvise, or if they do improvise, they play very simple and isolated and repetitive phrases that usually don't connect to a larger story (or it jumps into a quite different story, one at a lower level of speed and intensity). They do the equivalent of saying very fast "I like cake, I like cake, I like cake" and then maybe "I like muffins, I like muffins, I like muffins", and then they go to singing more slowly "Oooh cake, caaake...... cake" or "Broccoli! Kale! That's what I like". Meanwhile someone like Shawn Lane, Guthrie Govan or Allan Holdsworth are like really fast like Eminem rapgod speed "I went down to the market to buy some cake and then I saw this lady with this massive cake and I thought 'damn, how much does that cost?', probably priceless if you ask me". They tell a whole story, they do interesting and funny things, like Guthrie Govan especially, he is like a guitar comic, he tells literal jokes on the instrument, some sounds and deliveries (lead ups and punchlines) he makes are so surprising and crazy but also witty and they make sense, they make you laugh, like how Theo Von talks almost all the time. And again, all while playing at lightspeed. It's one of those cases of having both a high IQ and high cognitive complexity (which usually translates to genius), or simply being tapped into pure creative intelligence. Watch this: And then this: https://youtu.be/I7AaKrHgK1A?t=312&is=HooO5XrolcOOxe-5 Or this: