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Mushrooms and syrian rue seeds (acts as a MAOI) do not require a diet. Source: personal experience. But definitely don't believe me Do research.

I don't recall that part, but it's possibly a MAOI? One can increase the potency of mushrooms, for example, by ingesting some harmala seeds that work as a MAOI. Never consume a maoi without a troughout research, certain combination of substances, such as mdma+maoi, are very potentially leathall. Google is your friend here.

Nature of consciousness is by far the best book i have ever read. A definite must read.

Add "lurking on this forum every day constantly and posting long ass ideasoups and "you should, we should, enlightenment this and awareness that blah blah blah"-posts every day, multiple times a day" to your list. Something to think about. Rep-points were never the problem, the problem is the ability to post unlimited amount of posts a day.

He did not awaken untill much later than that pic was taken though.

@Quanty Where is this "having" of consciousness occurring in? In a physical world?

Lifting weights is not an excuse to eat meat. You only need about 1.6*kg of your bodyweight in order to grow, you can get that easily with zero grams of meat, and thats the whole reason why gymfolk eat meat. All the nutrients plus more can be gained from non meat foods.

Time your bowel movements such that you take a huge shit before you trip. Thank me later.

Agreed. The patented trademarked self inquiry©® method set me back big time though... Glad I noticed that early enough

I'm on the same page as you, but my question really was: when thought takes attention, how to not identify with it. The "attention taking" itself is inevitable and thus not a problem.

He has been on your mind a lot lately, hasn't he?

Erm... No? Yes, spiritual ego is certainly a thing for every age group, but it has next to nothing to do with young folk especially. You would have to be self decieved to extradimensional proportions to straight up start to hate humanity as a whole (excluding spiritual master), just from intense meditation. Anomalies exist, and i guess there must be SOME people that might fall into such a vortex of spiritual ego but... What you are describing is a ultimate case of that, and for 99.99% of people who consider themselves spiritual, the spiritual ego plays a much much more subtle role. When one (almost inevitably) learns that such a thing exists, they learn how to gradually be more aware of that and they turn out as great human beings as a result. I would say that to call the thing described here as a real trap to watch out for, is like saying writing notes can lead into an uncontrollable habbit of writing stuff on to walls, buildings, cars and other people, SO BE CAREFULL!! Ps. I dont know how old you are, but 20-somethings are indeed quite fully engaged with the world unless one lives in a cave. Not developed to their full potential but certainly engaged.

Can you explain a littlebit how to not identify with thoughts? It seems to me it goes always like this: A tought pops up, I immediately start to "read" it in my head, as that is what a thought is, it cant be delayed later. After a thought has been read, if im aware enough, a new thought comes up which says "that thought was not generated by a "me"-entity" Here is a opening for a regression that i could infinitely loop, like "that previous thought was not from me, that wasn't either, that wasn't either..." etc. How to be a watcher of the thoughts, not a "reader" of them? Is this a problem at all?

You are probably mistaking the ego being somehow woven into a physical entity. A physical being does not need an ego to be reincarnated. Why would it, as you know the whole thing is not a thing at all? An organism gets summoned into existance from the void, not a self.

Spirituality is a potato that is discovered and attained, only to be given away as soon as possible. If you are able to give it away, you will have a huge bellylaugh doing it, for the whole idea of spirituality is the best joke you ever heard.

Try this: when you notice you are trying to figure out how to do "do nothing", drop the figuring out. When you notice you are suspecting you are doing it wrong, drop the suspicion. When you notice you are trying to drop something, drop the dropping. When you notice you are trying (to meditate) drop that also. If you notice you are trying to remember what I adviced, drop that remembering. Non-manipulation meditation sound nice and relaxing but it's actually often quite difficult as you have been contioned by others and yourself to constantly manipulate everything. How to manipulate yourself to not to manipulate? Its simple, all you need to do, is.......

Not believing in a physical physical world only opens a door to another belief. No belief will ever deliver the truth for you. You can believe in things if you want only AFTER you get enlightened, as you can ponder your experience, but before then, throw away all your beliefs. But Im not saying its bad to contemplate things. Theres subtlety here.

Why trust him though. Appealing to authority. He's just a guy in the end of the day.

I have two annoying beginnerish mindfulness problems. Every time I try to practice mindfullness during everyday tasks two things happen: 1. My mind immediately goes "okay, lets do this, how do I do it, let figure out how to be really mindful, because if Im not constantly trying to edge myself this way I will fall to unconsciousness, which is not good". I can sort of drop this though when I recognize it, but it quickly comes back. 2. I somehow immediately start to breathe manually, and "unnaturally" and then Im stuck going back and forth with these two things. This unnatural controlled breathing is often present in my sitting meditation practice. It goes so bad that I feel that I cant breathe at all, and Im running out of breath and need to stop meditating. This thing has been bothering me for about a month now, i did not use to have this problem (been meditating close to daily for 1.5 years now). It is a letting go problem, but then again, "OKAY LETS LET GO REALLY WELL NOW"-layer gets added on top of "OKAY LETS BREATHE VERY NATURALLY"-thought. It almost feels like Im more mindful when I don't try to be mindful, but Im not sure if that's true either. --------- One thing that seems to help a little is not trying to be "mindful", but instead subtly shift my mode of operating into doing everything very carefully, smoothly and gracefully as I can. This would be practicing zen, if Im not entirely incorrect? But even then, the breathing problem often comes up. Sometimes I really wish I were a dog. I bet they do not have to deal with this. They just bork away. I suspect I have a chronic case of overthinking these issues also.

A hermit was meditating by a river when a young man interrupted him. “Master, I wish to become your disciple,” said the man. “Why?” replied the hermit. The young man thought for a moment. “Because I want to find God.” The master jumped up, grabbed him by the scruff of his neck, dragged him into the river, and plunged his head under water. After holding him there for a minute, with him kicking and struggling to free himself, the master finally pulled him up out of the river. The young man coughed up water and gasped to get his breath. When he eventually quieted down, the master spoke. “Tell me, what did you want most of all when you were under water.” “Air!” answered the man. “Very well,” said the master. “Go home and come back to me when you want God as much as you just wanted air.”

the world is not to blame for your addictions to stuff, it's always within you. Smartphones are supposed to make your life easier and they do if you know how to use them responsibly and consciously. I would advice to install a usage-app, so you get to see how much of your life is actually draining away staring at it. You are living in "the real world" even with a smartphone in your pocket. Who knows if you suddenly get lost in the real world and begin to miss google maps

hardly worth a topic on this already declining subforum

All i can say is: never give up. If you get it the last day of your life, it will be worth it still.

Well that happened for me a couple of days ago, and needless to say it was reeeeally something. These tips are written sort of like notes for myself, so don't read these as commands you must follow. This thread is not a "tell us how you did it" thread, because the truth is, there is no method so what's the point. If you really really wanna know it happened trough (in order of importance): Pure, cosmic dumb luck I was on mushrooms (quite mild trip, could have had a normal convo although it would have not been pleasant at the time) Prolonged daily meditation practise (30-120min per day) Mindfulness (I consider myself a beginner) Self-inquiry (gonna do ALOT more of this in the future) At the time when it happened, I had been meditating and self-inquiring for about 50minutes. Then: BAM! But here are the insights: Forget enlightenment, instead go straight for TRUTH Leo (among many others) has mentioned this multiple times but I'll mention it again because its CRITICAL. Enlightenment is not true for you (or me atm, I was not awakened permanently) until you have it, until then, forget enlightenment and set you course for truth. Consider enlightenment as another bullshit story until you get it personally. Stop thinkin "Im awareness, Im awareness, Im everything...." This trap is a big one and I was In it for quite some time. Truth and enlightenment are NOT the same thing in this sense. I strongly feel one big reason my awakening happened because I really really really forgot everyhting I had heard and read about enlightenment and the truth of no-self moments before it happened. Thats why it blew me away so hard: THE SELF DOES NOT EXIST! The deeper you forget enlightenment, the better. It helps if you: Stop consuming enlightenment theory (so much at least) All this is doing is filling your head with bunch of ideas, and you don't want that. It's just another distraction from doing the actual work. Your mind knows this. it's really safe and sound when you are concentrating on ANYTHING other than it. When you inquire, its CRITICAL to REALLY mean what you are asking You must really be interested to the bone what you are, you must crave the truth with every inch of your being. Robotically repeating the questions will get you nowhere. I encourage you to think about other things as well before/during inquiry to really get your interest and love for life going, like the universe, life, death etc. Also, when you inquire, do it with a big dumb smile in your heart and face. LOVE the question, LOVE the fact that silence is your answer EVERYTIME you ask a question. LOVE that you feel frustrated, because: The more you "fail" at inquiry, the better Feeling stuck? GREAT! That means your mind is hard at work trying to do the impossible. Realize that thats the purpose of inquiry. Do it anyway. Become really aware between the distintion between a memory and a truth Cross your hands and look at them. There they are. Now close your eyes. They now have zero reality to them physically, now you only have a memory of them. Memory is just a mental image and NOT true. You only have the sensation of your hands, and you percieve them in your consciousness. Also, the room you think you are in, does not exist, nor does your head, body, the world or ANYTHING other than the stuff that is in your direct experience. When you close your eyes, the world literally disappears. You must be diligent to give absolutely ZERO reality to anything other than your experience. Spiritual ego exists only so you can give it away Don't try to become really "spiritual" person, thats nonsense. You already are the spirit, there is nothing that could build it more. Don't mistake spiritual ego to be some better and kinder version of your regular ego. It's a hot potato your ego latches onto, it possibly makes you feel happier and more positive, but it blinds you from the truth. The general feeling I got was, that when I just handed everything I was holding onto away, my beliefs, self-image, assumptions and especially spiritual ego, I was so naked that the truth could finally reveal itself to me. It felt like I was talking so loudly my whole life without a stop that the truth simply did not get a say. When I finally shut up for just a second, it said:

Even better, you can experience an immediate ego backlash right after. That happened to me, got really depressed and hopeless for an hour or so.