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I mean it is all butterflies until one poke another's ego. But yea, you're right. If they agree on the subject it is usually ok. Echo chamber online interactions are ok 😂

Leo had to ban lots of trolls and weirdos in order to reach this level. Most online interactions with people are slightly above trash. Because there are no consequences when you are online. This shows me how animals we still are as society. We only behave when there are consequences. LOL: 1000 posts. Yay! Finally, after 8 years here.

Nerdiness is the quality of having a deep, passionate, and single-minded enthusiasm for intellectual, technical, or niche subjects. Can't a deep enthusiasm about non-formal thinking and spirituality be seen as nerdy?

@Natasha Tori Maru we love you ❤️ you do a great job! We just try to figure out this complicated subject, and sometimes we fail at it. It is the one subject the almost nobody gets it right. Nether the conservatives nor the progressives. I am a progressive, but when I see how miserably progressives fail at this subject, at building good men and implicitly hurting women, I get mad.

Good one. I somehow get it but it still is a problem. When he comes with that claim, he might have a very nuanced take on it. But It is a problem because when another guy who trusts him sees that short comment, he will take it as it is, black and white, without the hidden nuances. And he will parrot it further ideologically, dealing damage.

I don't need to read any text to realize that my hand is magic. It is just an empirical deduction

Some things are so obvious that you have to be a scientist/rationalist to not see them. You tell them: look at your hand dude! Look at a cat! Can't you see the infinite intelligence of it? Can't you see that such a cool thing cannot happen out of randomness and idk.. natural selection bullshit? Your hand, your cat, is your best poof that you are so fuckiing wrong about reality. No need for double blind studies and scientific "proof". Your FKING hand is the best proof. Had a discussion with two of such people yesterday. You corner them with these arguments and then they back off and say: well we don't actually know what is behind all this intelligence. Aha! Then why the fuck you got so triggered when I raised this ball? Maybe because I shook you reality a bit, maybe I made you doubt your world. "Science will figure this out in the future". Your sure? How? What are you going to measure? What variables are you going to isolate? In don't even need to change my consciousness state and experience something else in order to see how wrong they are. I can logically prove to myself from this normal state how wrong they are. These are very smart people with whom I am talking. People who read 200+ books. That is what amazes me. And they come with good arguments based on their worldview. If everything you know is logic and rationalism, then they are aces of it. But in the same time they are wrong, they are laughably wrong. It is like being so good at chess that you beat everyone, but the answer to your search is not winning at chess, it is letting go of chess and looking at your hand.

I think your short comments about controversial topics can be harmful. They remained imprinted in my brain and made me rethink my reality. Comments like: "women should leave this shit aside and just be cute"; "women just won't accept they are wrong" etc.. I think when you make such bold claims, they have to be done in a long video, not short comments. With lots and lots of disclaimers, nuances and "but Leos".

Yes but if you frame it like: "women are shallow and immature but you still have to respect them"... on a philosophy forum, that leads into treating them in a special way, which is kind of suboptimal. Because then women here would be like: "yeah, I am a woman, they know that and they just hold themselves back". The thing is that I don´t really experience this shit in my real life. IDk where you guys spend your time but I meet many mature women and many immature men. Women who understand advanced shit like social constructions but also being soft and feminine. Women who trust my lead, women who surprise me with very intelligent remarks, even philosophical remarks... the only suboptimal thing I observe them doing is not properly filtering through men and picking a good one in an efficient way. Although that can be challenging and I might be wrong. Immature people are immature. Women being less autistic and socialized towards consensus, if immature, they will be drawned towards toxic femininity and wokism. Men if immature, because they are more autistic and socialzed towards competition and hierarchy worship, they wil be drawned towards right wing extremism and libertarianism. Just because we have an autistic paradigm bias and a woman comes here with another perspective, does not make her immature and us more "mature". I see lots of paradigm locked men who whine about women being paradigm locked lmao.

Same in Sweden. This is why I am like "HUUh?" when I hear people whine about women being immature. Women are substantially better at almost anything(except maybe programming and engineering/construction shit) than men here. Men don´t properly develop in these scandinavian nanny societies. We just have to verfy for ourselves everything. It is very tempting to just believe Leo, and I think his short comments here about women and more are making people to form wrong opinions, including myself. I won´t believe anyone saying something about this topic without tons of proof anymore.

Very well framed! We guys do a poor job integrating women in our circles. I might´ve also said stuff that landed badly for women here. Sorry if so! IDK what to say about this stuff that very mature women are unattractive, because somehow they are masculine. I know that even Leo said it, but I don´t really experienced it in real life. Developed women can turn their masculinity and femininity on and off, like a superpower. Like: now I lead, now I follow. In fact nowadays, I meet more mature women than men. They are playful and fluid but also smart and logical when it is required. Never felt like loosing attracton when they challenge me with a more "mature" masculine vibe. It is like a shit test. If i pass it, I win their respect and they chill out in their feminine side and all good. If they constantly challenge my lead because they want to actually lead, that is something else. Those women are either not for me or not as "mature" as it seems.

"we have top people working on it" LMAO. @Leo Gura give them poor guys a helping hand.

@Leo Gura yes! That arrogance is annoying me. Dunning Kruger effect. They got some success by creating all this tech and stuff and became cocky based on it. They think they figured out epistemology and are jumping into ontology claims.

@Zenterus cool! You good stuff bro Thanks for your insights.

I have to admit that this is pretty cool info. But are you sure you have so much abundance in your life? Why the hell are you approaching a random girl on the streets then? And if you have so much abundance, why are you still gaming? What are you lacking? Even more sex? Nowadays, I am genuinely not interested in a girl who is not a potential lifetime partner. I genuinely don´t care if I add another random body to my count, I am looking to commit to one girl and make her life awesome in the process. I think people with 10+ body count who are still chasing sex are chasing their own tail.

Fair enough. Personally, I am looking for a long term relationship, or why not... a lifetime partner and forget about dating forever. That type of woman won´t be found in a bar, neither a club unfortunately. Maybe, just maybe on a hippe festival or smth. I agree that "just being yourself" can be very bad advice. I can be myslef and forget about all that pickup crap because I did 15+ years of personal development. everything comes naturally. The decisions I make, places I go to in order to find women, when to approach, what to say, etc. just natural shit.

Don´t over-complicate it. Just show up in places where you physically meet the women you desire. -Have fun -smile -show confidence and leadership, healthy masculinity. Send a vibe of: You can relax in you feminine side, I will handle it. Don´t fake it! Women sense role palying easily. This behaviour takes years to be embodied and not role played. -show competence (for ex. dance skills if it is a social dance meeting) -tell jokes -ask emotionally stimulating, non-booring questions and open interesting conversations. ex: what was the most boring thing you expereinced this week? instead of: what do you work? Sooo many dudes are so fuking boring. This can give you cutting edge advantage. -dress nicely! So may dudes dress like their mother picked the clothes for them in the morning. DO all these and the woman who is ready to date and is vibing with you will pick you. It is soo easy to diferentiate from 90% of dudes these days, they are so bad at the above... GL!

Or at least it has elements of Blue: -us vs them - black and white mentality. -cultish dynamics - people like us believe in things like this; I was wondering if Spiral dynamics measure some cultural aspects or the level of consciousness... Because we see behaviours in excess of Green that are typical to the levels of consciousness we find in Blue people.

Yea I mean Yellow is Yellow because of a specific level of consciousness not just advanced cognition. You cannot have pure Yellow without consciousness. You need to be aware of biases and meta thinking not just to be introduced into a academic fancy culture. that won't cut it. In the same logic, it is not enough to be introduced to hippie Green culture and be a healthy Green. You need the consciousness. If there is a critical mass of mature Green people in your friend group, you will be dragged along towards higher consciousness. because you need the love. Your ego will give up selfishness for love. But if enough low consciousness people join the Green group, a lower consciousness woke culture will form from the healthy Green. Like a cancer, like an ugly mutation breaking from the healthy Green.

If your are not born asexual, or aromantic (if there is such term), you pretty much have the need for romance. You can ignore it or cope with it but it is there. And no amount of spiritual shit will make it dissappear. Spirituality cannot change your biology. We naturally crave specific things depending on our biology. Crave for intimacy, love, romance, apreciation, purpose etc.

Careful with these assumptions. Some people simply are not born for that. I always think of an old friend who never managed to embody that masculine figure, even is everyone around pushed him for it. And he tried with all his strengths to achieve it. He now is a a kind of feminine hippe straight man and works much better for him

Yup, as a broad rule, we humans call evil those things that fuck up with our survival.

yes, Evil doesn't exist as an absolute entinty. But "evil" as what we society call evil exists as a social construct and people like those are relatively more "evil" than other more conscious ones.

Epstein and his gang are objectively less conscious than us here for example. That is just a fact that makes them relatively more "evil" based on what we society perceive as "evil"

LOL I was judging my grandparents dog when I was young because he was biting me. Later I learned that in romanian countryside culture they were beating the dogs and shit so they become more aggressive towards foreigners. But all they were doing was mostly traumatizing them for life, biting everyone.