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@Schizophonia yes I meant neurotic autisitic "smart". Dumb smart as I used to be. Saying stuff that just dont fit well even if they come from authenticity. they go after vibe, now if they are conscious enough they can see your worth even if the vibe is off in the beginning and still choose you over a good vibes dude that is full of shit. But if you say really politically incorrect shit it is pretty much game over.

Yes! Relationships are just some enjoyment. Real work is done alone.

So true man. The most dumb and unconscious guys I know got the most attention from women. It took me sooo long to accept this reality. I thought that behaving truthfully will attract the conscious women to me, but unfortunately not even the most conscious women want to hear you talk about sad truths and dry facts about reality. You give her a bad vibe, bad feelings and she doesn't want that. Most guys included, many just want to hear what they want to hear, not the truth that will break through their petty ideologies. The most juicy ideas that passionate me alot have to be kept for myself. It is like being able to finish the last level in Mario but if you show to others how you do it, you will get ghosted, you have to play the first 3 levels with them in order to be accepted. Tell them that feminine perspective cares less about truth than the masculine and see how much sex you'll get, you'll be the first person to get rejected by an AI girlfriend.

@Emerald pretty cool answer. Mine is prompted for very direct, non-sugar coating answers. The whole tier 1 has pretty shit relationships to be honest, but the answer I got is pretty fascinating and not very wrong. But of course it depends on what Blue and Orange people we talk about. The relationships can be way worse than Green if the man is a dominant macho or some shit like that.

@OmniNaut Tier 1 stages are not a straightforward improvement in any possible way from one to the other. It is ideology based and conformist based, even the individualistic stages are still very conformist. Those stage orange couples that think they are unique are basically some conformist automatons that conform to the Instagram pop culture. Green is even more conformist because it is a very feminine stage. Those hippies that you see dressing in cool interesting ways is just a pseudo-diversity. real diversity is in values, behaviour and knowledge. And Green messes up realtionships quite bad because of not understanding masculinity and femininity. Only Tier 2 has autonomy of mind because it realized how limited and stupid all the ideologies and cultures are.

In some aspects it can be, of course you have to take this with a grain of salt.

You would be amazed how conformist Stage Green can be, if you live in a Stage Green dominant country you’ll notice how they just adopt the mainstream behaviors and values without questioning. The average Stage Green person from today’s Green countries are very unevenly developed, often lacking Orange and Red qualities, leading to a overly emotional, conflict avoidant, ideological about equality and safety before everything, even before truth. The main thing is equality bias that makes them believe (falsely) that men behave and have the same needs and preferences like women, this is the biggest fallacy of today’s underdeveloped Green people. Now of course you’ll meet some wholesome, mature Green people that understand these asymmetries, usually spiritual people but are still not at Tier 2 yet. I specifically mentioned the stereotype person, which is not perfect and did not properly integrate stages from below, it is the average Green Joe and Josephine.

These insights are pure gold nowadays. You guys have no idea how lucky you are you stumbled upon Leo/Teal Swan/David Deida. I met people who are absolutely killing it in terms of economy/politics/science/business etc. but they simply cannot accept these basic things. They are basically fucked for life. Thanks Leo for shining some light onto this post-modern madness we live in!

If this post made you contemplate whether personal development is worth the suffering and loneliness it brings, here you have a list with all the traps and shit the normies fall into, assuming they live in the West: -they will eat tons of wheat based products that will make them fat and destroy their digestive system because mainstream nutritionists even to this day do not understand how bad wheat is. -they will poison their body with heavy metals, PFAs, microplastics, pesticides etc. found in specific foods and products that they have no idea about -they will become wage slaves to some dead end job and they will not be able to change that because of all the debt they accumulated though buying houses, cars etc. that they cannot afford -they will not be able to become men and women and will have disastrous romantic relationships, they won't understand how attraction works, they will gaslight their partner, because nobody tells them about masculinity and femininity -they will have some unruly or broken children because they have no idea how to raise them properly. -they will have no clue about spirituality and how it can change their lives -they will never ever have a spiritual awakening -they will never know how to find truth by themselves but trusting other people like sheep -they will constantly be frustrated because they don't understand politics, economy, relationships, power, war, how ideology works, how the mind works, what the essenc eof the universe is -because of not learning a dev. psychology model like Spiral-Dynamics, they will never understand the above. -they will become addicted to porn, drinking, sugar, wheat, netflix, tiktok, mindless chatter with their friends etc. -they will have constant drama and fights with their friends and family -they won’t have the discipline to keep a tidy home and environment -they will die with regrets probably SO good luck my friends! It is 100% worth the loneliness and suffering in the end. Even if you draw a line at the end of your life and conclude that you suffered more than a normie, what is the point in suffering a bit less? Is life only about minimizing suffering at all costs? Even at the cost of truth?

Basically nobody cares about serious pursuit of truth and personal development. even with the most educated people I met in my life, I still have to tip-toe around subjects because their beliefs and worldviews are so fucked up that I would just annoy/insult them if I was truly honest. Is it worth it? Of course, some feelings of loneliness pales in comparison with knowing you are truly the top 0.1 % of people who take life very seriously, not just playing survival shit. The ones who say they do this work? Haha, I have to be even more careful with them, because they have built an ego around their false beliefs and actions and are easy to offend. Core lesson. Either be dead serious about this work or let it go and stop building an ego around your ideas, spirituality, political views, and shit, because they are most probably wrong. I just had a talk with a very educated influencer from my home country who talks advanced politics. The dude is killing it in regards to understanding the economy and nerdy stuff like that. But even him cannot understand the basic asymmetry of femininity vs. masculinity which mostly throws his work into the trash bin. If you don’t understand femininity vs. masculinity, your LGBT+ understanding is shit, your relationships understanding is shit, your sociology understanding is shit, your understanding of who YOU are and what you want is mostly shit.

I am working towards becoming a coach, but this realization makes me reluctant about leading people into serious self-improvement. The amount of suffering and loneliness I went through in order to reach the point where I find myself now is just too much for the average folk. I think I'll focus on helping them with basic survival like how to fix their nutrition, health, relationships.

Well a good way to live like a monk can be to move to some welfare state and exploit the gov then haha. I see lots of people here in Scandinavia staying years in a row on gov support. Just play sick and you can be a monk lol. The problem is that these leeches use this advantage to watch netflix and porn not grow themsleves, which is disgusting. Finally average people have the opportunity to live like monks but they use this opportunity for jerking off. Those who use it, are in regress not in progress. Thanks for sharing your present views on women, interesting! It is hard to forget about women, I think they are a core motivator for men in life.

@nexusoflife I reccon that this masculinity vs. femininity plus lack of socialization are among the top problems that will fuck us up in the future if no serious turning point solves the issue. That is because relationships are a critical pillar for most people's mental health. If this falls all the way down, I am concerned about the sanity of our people. The average Joe and the basic Josefine does not have Leo's career and life purpose, they will have a hard time finding meaning and happiness in something other than relationships.

By the way Leo! How much of your happiness and development potential gets affected by the fact that you can't find the exact woman you wish having? In case you are still single, otherwise it is a stupid question 😆

@Leo Gura yes, it is a balance between meeting your needs and staying away from sickness.

It depends a bit on your personality also. If you are a spicy masculine person, just being around normies and holding your handbrake on all the time is not fun. It can feel like you sell your soul to the devil for the sake of conformity, meeting needs and not hurting others. On the other hand, there are people like Eckhart Tolle, who is very developed but also authentically feminine and chill, he has an easier time being around normies.

If you tune it well, it is smarter than virtually anyone you ever met in person. It is amazing what good job these AI people did. But you have to tune it, because the default GPT is very feminine and politically correct so it does not incubate extremists and to not traumatize you with too much truth.

Yes! That's it. Had to learn it the hard way. I had an ideology in my head in the past that I have to be honest with people otherwise I am a lier, but no, you just cannot be mask off all the time. That is femininity basically, strategically holding back your honesty in order to get the best outcome for everyone.

Yea that makes sense. As Stage Green comes online, the feminity bias kicks in.

I don't dare to give you an answer as I did not live there. I think it goes towards that if it is not already there.

I've spent lots of time among Green people the last years and suppression of/misunderstanding masculinity is one of their biggest weaknesses. They are culturally castrating their men then hating them lol.

Kind of. I mean even some boring dude from Sweden is better than a shit life in a third world country as a woman.

I think most of Scandinavia is like this. it is the pinnacle of this problem, as this gender blind ideology and underdevelopment among men is the highest.

This is why you either run away from that kind of society (eg. Brazil countryside) or forget about personal development. It will only make your life even more mizerable, because you now will know how bad your life is and how much better it could be. haha Not that the life of a leftist woman in Stockholm, Sweden is a lot better, it is a bit better but not with much. If she wants kids and a relationship, she is basically forced to accept a soyguy that she is not really into, but there is nothing better she can find so she takes him. She will basically have to raise the children and the man. The man is usually a boy that helps her around the house and with finances. He will get so frustrated because of the sexless, non-romantic relationhsip that will eventually become passive-aggressive then actively aggressive. Not to mention the gaslighting and toxic positivity, pretending everything is "ok". The easiest way for a woman to be happy here is staying single, which many do from what I see. Because many older men buy women from Asia lol.

Interesting, so many types of shitty men.