Alexop

Nice explanation. Actually, 10 years ago when I was a lost kid, I had no good rational tools to give me the direction in life. There were the feelings and intuition that put me on the right path. I discovered Leo 10 years ago, but I also discovered other clickbaity influencers at the same time. It was my feelings that told me Leo is more right than those fucks. Then Leo gave me the rational tools I needed in order to direct my life in a masculine way. However, for some people, feelings can be deceiving, they stem, as you said from unconscious thoughts. If lots of trauma and bad beliefs drive your emotions and intuition, then you can go very south letting your feminine side steer you. I really believe that there is possible to find a woman who is both attractive and feminine but rational and grounded in truth. Maybe they are very rare in our broken society.

Dude, I lost so much sex because of you. 🙏 Not just telling something's wrong with her, telling stuff that wake bad emotions. Like telling that society is fucked up in some aspects. Not just women, this new version of child guys can be even more sensitive to that. At least women are cute when they are innocent. The truth leads you to fapping. Thanks for the insight about escaping the matrix brings you more suffering than pleasure. No doubt people avoid us when preaching truth, it is actually a great survival strategy to avoid such freaks. Avoid us people! we are fucked up.

the camel and the eye of a needle. You cannot simply get truth, you have to be part of it. These people are nowhere near there.

What a buffon lol

This was a bang. I think my fetish is to watch this with my future hot philosopher girlfriend that is so intelligent and mature that she can switch from femininity to masculinity based on context. But probably, when I will have that experience, the alarm klock will wake me up, and will continue to keep my biggest passion, philosphy, for myself while telling all the kids around stuff that wakes good feelings in them so I keep my sex needs and survival in check Cheers master! Fuck that modesty, you are the truth king.

Great idea! Thanks!

Yea, some guys can have some pretty skewed views on this topic. It is mostly fueled by frustration but also patriarchal legacy. And that shit that Orion also advocates for, that men have to be served by women for some reason is retarded.

@Emerald no offense but it is pretty clear to me that you have some personal issue with this subject. Idk, maybe a macho guy hurt you or something. This level of closed mindedness is only given by a personal ego involvement all due respect, try and find the issue. Even if nobody said something about machos or some toxic masculine shit, you keep bringing it up.

I quoted Deidas take on it. It seems men mature harder, they need more external push 🫷. They have to feel consequences for their immaturity. Also the dating scene is depressing, they give up on personal development when no woman gives them the slightest attention.

Women can do whatever they want, I was talking about men. Women are mostly ok relative to the dark ages they live in. In short, let's listen to Deida because I am nobody: David Deida’s view comes from his broader idea that modern culture is stripping men of the challenges, responsibilities, and initiatory experiences that used to force them to grow into mature, grounded adults. He argues that without rites of passage, clear masculine role models, and the demand to take on real responsibility early, many men remain stuck in adolescent patterns — seeking comfort, avoiding risk, and defining themselves through distraction rather than purpose. He also blames the modern emphasis on comfort, consumerism, and instant gratification, saying it keeps men in a state of “boyhood” where they don’t develop depth, discipline, or the ability to face discomfort head-on. According to him, this trend will only worsen as technology and societal structures make it easier to avoid the kind of real-world struggles that forge maturity.

Because they get the wrong message. "Maturing" does not mean becoming a CEO dummy and kick ass in business and dominating people or whatever. It is a much more finesse process that implies lots of emotional/social/rational/behavioural development. His wife treats him badly exactly because he hasn't developed those soft areas. Very rarely you'll meet a woman complaining about a truly mature man. Only if she is broken from factory, in which case he won't be with her, he will intuit the relationship becoming a disaster even before starting it.

No, those are your projections onto me, I never said that. We talk about men now. Men had the protectors provider role for millions of years, we have to figure out how we can forge them into maturity in our "artificial" environment we live now.

@Emerald so Leo and Deida are intellectual weirdos? 😂 The most developed people I have seen are the ones who get this topic right. The most underdeveloped men I've met are the post-modern loosy goosy ones. You reffer to macho guys, they don't get what I or Leo or Deida say, they are just being brainwashed into "don't be a pussy" stage Red/Orange nonsense. Our take is much beyond that shit. Anyways believe what you want, don't assume you know me.it is a tragedy that even Tier 2 leaning people still don't get this simple crucial topic.

Being mature like Deida is not being macho. By finding out differences you help them.