Alexop

I am not a swede, but I notice they eat all sorts of crap. Pasta, pizza, fish, pastry, tacos etc. Not very healthy in general. Food industry in Sweden is gate keeped by 3 large corporations. They own the whole poduction chain and if you want to sell your food in the swedish market, you have to accept their terms.

10% unemployment may tells you something. Oligarchy in food industry also. Sweden is so left that we have Trumpists in power now.

yea that is fked up mate... I hope you will change that some day

We can make a minority government or ally with one block or the other. But no chance to make the wokies collaborate with the bourgeoisie. Especially after they worked close with the far right. It is not 1960s anymore. We have a very divided society. You can clearly see how people gather around their distinct values. Spiral Dynamics Blue, Orange and Green.

greens focus more on the environmental issues and immigration, V are describing themsleves as "the anti-racist, feminist party". It is mostly the focus that makes them different. V can come with good stuff sometimes, like taxing the rich more, building state housing etc. But they attract all sorts of weirdos and extremists in their party. They can exaggerate with their identity politics of course. All the children who finish gender studies, diversity studies or some shit like that, go into their Young Left, which is their young under 30 division. Their young division is openly marxist and very confrontational. they even shouted police hate speech at a pride event. They are the type of people who can become more and more extreme if they gain too much power, that is my biggest concern about them. Because that is their niche. Attracting passionate, vehement voters who want change now, in 2 minutes.

we basically have two options: collaborate with the woke left parties or collaborate with the Orange Moderates. The second option might make for too little progress, especially in regards to the economy. The first option might enrage the conservative voters and our popularity might suffer. The thing is that people vote on vibe. if we present a loosy-goosy hippie vibe, then the serious people will feel reluctant on voting for us again. If we compromise too much with the neo-liberals, we might not fix the economy, which is shit right now. We have enough of the Orange shit, we have the highest number of billionaires per capita in Europe. Housing is a nightmare. Private schools taking unlimited profits from the public budget. The welfare system is going down etc.

https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/sweden/ S is us, the normal left. V is the woke left. MP are the greens. M are the Orange neo-liberals that are in power rn forming a coalition with SD. SD is the far right anti-immigration party. They exploded in popularity after the refugee crisis when Sweden took waay to many of them, creating segregation and gang violence all-over. Just think about it. In the hippie Sweden, a far-right Trumpist party reaching 20%. And in this political nightmarish situation, these green fucks are sayign that shit...

One month until parliamentary elections in Sweden. I am a member of the social-democrats (center-left) and we are the most popular party by far in the polls. A few days ago the fucking Greens had the amazing idea to come with the coming statement: "we can take many more refugees". I am pretty sure this is going to cost us a few points, because we are planning to collaborate, of course, with the 2 smaller left parties (the greens and the left party). After all of what happened in Sweden, with all the immigration chaos and people panic voting massively for the far right, just because this topic alone. Now comes these fuckers with this stupid statement. I cannot stand this virtue signaling anymore. These idiots do not meet the refugees, they live in in gentrificated areas and only meet white leftist people but complain about us not taking care of the refugees. Bitch, why aren't you living in the same neighborhood with them? why aren't you befriending that poor guy who came from Syria here? Oh, you have different values… These unnuanced statements are clearly leftist populous bullshit. A nuanced statement about immigration would be something like: “we will see what comes in the future. if 2 million refugees come to europe, we won't be able to take too many of them, because we already have big political and logistical problems based on not properly integrating the people who we already took in. We will have a generous work based immigration, to keep the economy going. We need that because the Swedes are not having enough children. But refugees are a complicated issue that we have to approach with caution right now.” But of course they don´t say it like this, their voters base are the Greta Thunberg “I block the roads if you don´t do what I want” type of people. Who do not want to accept reality. The far left small parties are surviving based on being radical and challenging the norms much more the the status quo. because the nuanced position is taken by the social-democrats. And they are not those sold-out , watered down soc-dems, they are pure leftist blood.

Definitively. And interpreting any bad behaviour as a problem of your past.

Yes, but those biological inclinations can make people to unconsciously adopt values or choose people that they might not even want. For ex. choosing a partner because others tell you he or she is a good fit for you. Or to unconsciously choose a person just because society programmed you to think you like that person.

the way people choose their partners.

Yup. I mean those 10.000 serious people and all we know about the universe until now... all the planets and galaxies etc. makes for a strong case. There is basically 0% chances that only humans made it to this level of intelligence in the whole universe. There are just too many stars and galaxies.

@Leo Gura so at some point, if there are too many "mature" witnesses, we can begin to trust their word, even to a legal trial degree? For example: if enough "mature" people witness that a woman was raped by X, then we can send X to 20 years in prison based only on that? I don't say that you are wrong or so, and just believing in aliens is not as serious of a thing as potentially destroying the life of a person. I just want to raise this ball, that if we don't have a so called in legal world: a "beyond a reasonable doubt" proof, we cannot be 100% sure. In the same way mob justice can happen, mob ontological commitment can happen.

I mean yea, they are less nerdy. They spend less time in their head and more in the present. My ex literally fell asleep while explaining Spiral dynamics to her. But does that make them less developed or less mature?? Relative to what? I mean they observe so much stuff because they are so present, and observation can be a very stong tool for understanding. They are also very responsible in my experience. Especially after they have kids. And if assuming responsibility is not maturity, what is? And we judge them based on how well they function and understand the techno-patriarchal society we built. But who says this is the only way to live well? Living in your head exposes yourself to many delusions. And that is not intelligent, that is stupid. You try to understand the essence of a hand through math and chemistry. She tells you: let that nonsense aside and just observe it's majesty. Your hand is fucking magic, nerdy idiot.

I would call them magicians. Whenever they appear, all the women disappear.