Hello from Russia

Between 7 and 8. Although it doesn't seem to relate to enlightenment or consciousness work

I'm not a super good speaker (yet) but I'm very good at metalearning and training myself skills. I will add to what people said above - contemplate your skill, what your skill is really about? What are the fundamentals, the most important elements of your skill? Focus your efforts on those.

Would you guys consider all of it as living minimalistic? Planning to do simillar stuff by the way, starting from tomorrow, but I don't have the timeline, though I want to make this diet as my default: No meat, no gluten, no dairy, no sugar, meals are no more than 500-700 calories per meal, rice is no more than 200g per day, 1 day of sea food per week max, nuts are capped at like 30-50g per day as well. Drinking spinach smoothie at the morning everyday. Eating beans\lentis, eggs, oats and baked potatoes occasionally, that's pretty much it I'm not drinking coffee for like 1 year already as it got pretty clear to me that this is a poison for consciousness. Matcha tea is great as a substitute, by the way, and you can still make the creamy latte out of it (with oat or other kind of milk - i do oatmilk)

To integrate it with what Leo talks about in his course and in other places just think in terms of What problem you actually care to solve? The ideal scenario that you should be somewhat passionate about solving the problem or the logistics of it (A.k.a. being in your zone of genious while you're delivering it). You can't really ever disregard the value for client issue. If they don't find what you sell as valuable, it is doomed (unless if the problem is in your communication skills - which it often is, that's why you have to learn communication skills such as copywriting, branding, and brand messaging.)

@Tom T Damn there is so much stuff here Actually everything goes to fundamentals such as: Find a painful problem\desire other people want to solve (Other people, not you!) Learn the skills\Gain the capacity to solve this problem Find where a lot of these people hangout Offer your products\services as a solution to their problem with words that they can relate to (Your message should be about THEM and how it will help THEM, only later about you and your product) Sell, collect the feedback Iterate based on the feedback from the market, you can improve your messaging, find new marketing areas, find ways to improve the product, find more efficient ways to ship it, etc. Pretty much this is what successful businesses do on an abstract level. More variables at play - more complex your business will be. Which is why it is often advised for newbies to not go for hard businesses like restaurants or software right off the bat and focus on something simple because fundamentals are always the same - Customer problem, the solution (a.k.a. the product) and customer experience\satisfaction. You'll grow as an entrepreneur regardless of your business, if you focus on the fundamentals

Why it sounds so funny Great points, though. I believe honesty is the key as well. I think the lack of it and the lack of mutual habit of honesty is one of the thigns that contributed negatively to my relationship with my current partner and with my relationships in the past. You nail it all very well.

@Stretch Can you share what you were actually doing and what were your results? How is the money situation, how is your life purpose, relationships, outer environment systems you put up for yourself? how is your health and body, how is your exercising regiment\results? What is your income compared to the average income of your country or society? What was your progress in enlightenment? Did you achieve any steps from what Zen\Theravada traditions as stages of enlightenment? Do you believe in a separate self? Can you concentrate on subtle materia of reality and can you tell the difference between experiencing\achknowledging "subtle" reality and the "gross" physical one? Do you see the difference between the two or they are the same in your direct experience? Did you figure out the duality between meaning and meaninglessness?

Title^ And how much do you think it will take time for you to move to the next stage? I myself consider myself at yellow, but I have some work to do to incorporate\integrate other stages and shadows from them. I also think I have some substantial drops of turquoise in the way my mind is wired intellectually and feeling wise. Mostly I resonate with everything mental\cognitive in turquoise and I think I even live from that place like 10-20% of time and strive to be live more, but I can't yet embody its collective selfless values from that stage. I think it's mostly because I have a lot of shadows about other people from childhood, etc to work through and because I feel I need to focus on myself and my development first and then care about the rest of the people on a bigger scale. I also feel that I need to fulfill some of my materialistic desires first and live for my self a little bit. Too much time spent in poverty iine being broke and powerless. It doesn't seem I crave too much, though. I'm not bullshitting myself too much, though, I think it will take me about 10 years (And probably more) to move to turqoise. I think It will be achieved through mastering my survival envieronment, going deeper into methaphysical realm (After I carve out more time to go deeper and maybe also try psychedelics) and by purifying my psyche out of all the shit society and I fed it. Out of these 3 probably 3 is the mos crucial. For the forum, I feel like most of the people here are living from green consciousness with drops of yellow, mostly green though. I feel like a lot of people love stuff intellectually, but a little bit afraid&lack courage to go embody it and live from there. Maybe because they need to do purify themselves as well and work on bottomline for a while which is a bottleneck for them (Carreer, finances, etc). Financial side of things is definitely a bottleneck in my own development, but I work on it everyday and this problem is my priority right now. What are you thoughts? Where do you peg yourself now? What do you think about forum?

Can you elaborate a bit on why it was a mistake from your opinion? What do you mean by hiding? HIding your feelings to other girl or your self-actualization\spiritual ambitions? I feel you a lot, bro. I know how frustrating it is when you feel like your woman drags you down

@LfcCharlie4 I think we often tend to pick up stage blue spiritual conditioning when it comes to money because we don't talk about it very much in our circles. We just let our parents who believed in Jesus that money is evil and we just never thought to question it and we just assumed spiritual=poor or being poor is a virtue. And now, as you become more "spiritual" with all this work, you should integrate these false beliefs to become more congruent. Maybe to gain social approval as well. I'm not a big fan of conspiracy theories, but It's kinda interesting to me how society and cultures promote common folk to be poor as a virtue. Society feels like a big cult from that point of view. I resonate with the manifesto that we should encourage more conscious people to learn business skills and become more rich

Tj Reeves guy? He claims to be coral and beyound. Hard to verify if he is enlightened or not. But the guy clearly seems to have robust genetics and robust healthy childhood that gave him a tremendous advantage across a shit load of domains (Including spirituality). Not to decrease his achievements, though, he is a great inspiring example.

Oh yes, this is an actual definition from WIkipedia. I just am personally biased on pursuing business rather than working on some job with upper limit and waiting for 10-30 years. For this amount of time and effort it's not that much big of a return, imo. And I'd make an argument that it is even riskier and more stressful\unfulfilling to go about things that way. But I am probably hugely biosed towards entrepeneurship, and I'm probably a little bit brainwashed my business community in that sense, I just don't believe in having a simple job.

@Humanoid Making 100-300k$ a year with your job is not a definition of a millionaire. Millionaire is someone who makes 1m$\Year, it's not just saving up a million into your bank account, lol. By that logic, 90% of USA can be millionaires by simple means of saving up and waiting for 10-50 years until savings grow to 1m. It's clearly not just about doing that.

@electroBeam Can you elaborate?

There are a shit ton of graphic design\illustrator\concept&3D artist jobs outthere that pay decent

Can you elaborate on what she is doing from day to day? How she works her ass off and why?

Don't do it, bro The video, indeed, is amazing

I think it depends on a book and on the game. The games I played contributed heavily to my cognitive development, but my favorite genre was Strategy and I also played on a semi-pro\pro level across multiple disciplines

Why then these stage blue people seem to be like hamsters on a wheel, constantly being unhappy and miserable maybe with a few shots of happiness here and there? If they are so wise. While turqoise folks are happy almost unconditionally and in a zen-state 90% of time. I found from my exp that the more advanced people become on a spiral, the more zen-like and happy they are and generally they have way more healthy self-esteem Not mentioning effectiveness at whatever they do

I experienced the same. Trying to reintegrate good healthy orange stuff now after so much time demonizing it from stage green perspective. It's just you start to see how much bullshit there is in green and how much you're bullshitting yourself and others when you're moving from this paradygm and how limiting it is. Not to say I'm not bullshitting myself and others from my curent state now, but it feels way less and at least I feel way more conscious when I do that now. When I used to be green I placed these ideologies as though they were the truth. Now I think that the whole notion of "truth" is kinda bullshit. Not to say I don't care about truth and not pursuing it, I just became 10-100x more careful with that notion and believing in "truthts" too much. I guess I have a shadow in green, because my own behaviour and my attachments to this paradigm caused me SO MUCH suffering on a day-to-day basis, because i was demonizing effectiveness, I demonized money, I thought there is nothing to pursue, so I didn't pursue what was needed with the intensity that was needed and had a lot of financial and material problems because of that. Which caused me to be dependent on my siblings that treated me with a huge deal of toxicity, because, obviously, I also didn't want to conform to their worldviews. And I even realize that I act bitter towards green people in day-to-day life and sort of can't stand them when they are imposing their worldviews too much and think it's true. Gotta work out this bitterness at some point. Ken Wilber writes very good about the transition from green. He says that when you move further, about 85-90% of people typically develop an allergy to green (and symthoms are very close to how I feel) and 10-15% of people kinda remained attached to green, while still opening their mind. I want to say, though, that actually, I love being around green people in non-serious setting. When there is time to connect, nurture yourself and others, speak about mental and bodily health, spend time on a retreat together meditating or just having a close 1-1 conversation with a friend, sharing experiences and more intimate feelings about things. It's all good stuff, I love it. But when it comes to something pragmatic and serious. When it's about getting results, I just can't stand it. I just see them as a bunch of wobblers who just talk a lot of shit but don't live it. Or they actually try to live it but they are so naive in their efforts it's no surprise they can't accomplish anything. And from my experience it's true for spiritual stuff to the same degree. They are very rarely the serious seekers. They are the most intense experience and state junkies i've seen (caring for kundalinig "feel good" states more than they care for truth). So, It's very hard to treat them seriously. Nothing is wrong with being a hippie if that's what you want. I am just saying that hippies often position themselves as they are doing a ton of shit to society, while in actuality, they are merely just talking most of the time. I actually love the hippy lifestyle, but it is pretty selfish. Not bashing on being selfish by the way, I think it is the right thing to take time to take a good care of yourself and nurture your soul, so to speak. Just don't act as though you're completely selfless because you're not. I think the notion of productivity depends on your goals. I don't deny that sitting on your ass all day can actually be quite productive, for example, if you're having an intense meditation retreat or contemplating some stuff deeply and this is your 100% intent and purpose. But if you're trying to create a ton of change in the world, make money, be financially independent, get your health in order, make good relationships and stuff like that - I'd say it's a pretty bullshit way to go about those things.

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Bashing on stage green hippies and promoting effectiveness doesn't necessarily equate onto being stage orange

What makes you think that?

We are But this story about people chasing money blindlessly, to be honest, I don't know. Lately, I've been noticing it's just a distracting story we use to tell ourselves and excuse our shitty perfomence. When I looked more into reality, I notices a lot of people strive for success for more "on purpose" reasons, they want to actually do something meaningful with their lifes or get into a position to help many people. Or they just run from intense suffering which is easily solvable by money. A lot of time their baseline motivation isn't bad. So, I don't know about that demonization of success chasers. I could be biased, though, due to my influences. I agree more on your second point about people chasing enlightenment. Personally, I've grown very sick of those hippies after I started doing a lot of work in the real world. I used to have a simillar stage green mindset as doing stuff in the world doesn't matter at all, but I quickly realized that shit just doesn't fly if you want to actually do something in your life and influence the world in some way. This is when you start entering into Yellow and become more pragmatic and, perhaps, more rude than common stage green folk. At least this is my experience with all that

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