Hello from Russia

@BornToBoil Well, getting into girls' pants probably won't enlighten you, although there is this story about the monk who meditated for 20 years in the monastery, didn't get the Truth, then he said - " fuck this ", left the monastery, went to the brothel, fucked a girl and suddenly got his satory. So, who knows? With the girls, I found it is very tricky. The problem is that they seem to not be wired to love Truth or truth for its own sake as much as the guys do. You could even say, the girls actually love the illusion, which you could say is the opposite of Truth, right? But it is not so simple, actually. What I found myself is that truth and illusion are a duality, they are not really opposites and they all come in degrees. Try to give contemplating Truth vs Illusion a go, it can be very insightful. In a sense, you could say that to be good at dating you need to be good at skillfully creating the illusions or "experience" that the girls will love. And you can find a lot of truth in these illusions too. It's not like illusions and fantasies are not the truth. They are, but it depends a lot on what frame you put these concepts in. And how you use it. In a sense, everything is an illusion and the art of living is the mastery of creating these illusions. You could also say, that the best illusions are the Truest ones, and the closer to the truth - the better. it is a bit complicated. Probably the best way to replace the word illusion with the word "experience" which would mean the same thing in our context. The feminine really creates for Experiencing life and if you can give her very good experiences - you'll win in this game. And you could say, it doesn't even matter will these experiences be spiritual or not, it's more a matter of your the intensity of it (so she is positively stimulated) and your own style/preferences of how you want to live life and what you want YOURSELF to experience. I think the most important thing to understand here is that girls love experiences. Then, you can put inside these experiences whatever you want, won't really matter. You could also say, though, that the most intense experiences one can experience are of a spiritual nature. So, if you can get her to this point, it might be a major win. They are typically not big fans of rigor and disciplined way of going about it, though, so it might be hard. But they tend to have their ways of doing it, which I am not very familiar with (Feminine spirituality) For the illusion/manipulation dichotomy, I found a good mindset is to be very nuanced about it. Yes, you probably will have to create illusions, but you can do so consciously so they can (1) bring her to something good relative to her - well-being, laughter, prosperity, etc, (2) get her closer to the truth and try to not let her be too attached to the too relative too negative illusions. and also so (3) you don't compromise on your own values of truth. You, in a sense, should have some standards in that domain and don't pursue too untruthful girls for your long-term partners (Simple dating doesn't matter that much probably). And, I think, one of the most key things is that there is this dance in the world between various kinds of phenomena. You dance in between dualities, play with them, merge them, going in various degrees in them, recognizing these degrees. Being too rigid as to only care about one of way of Truth is very myopic in my opinion. So you should probably experiment with these things I'll give you the illustration from the top level of Asian Martial arts and its philosophy. Imagine having an aggressive martial arts style. Then, imagine the aggressive style done soft. Then imagine a Soft style. Then imagine a Soft style done aggressive. Then Soft style done a little bit aggressive (not too much). Then Soft style done superly aggressive. Soft also doesn't mean it is weak So, in a sense, this is how you, imo, should proceed with this illusion & manipulation stuff. Creating the illusions truthfully, or, showcasing the beautiful illusions that are also the truth, or, the illusion that is full of truth, good intentions and integrity, or, you want to be truthful so much that you just can't help but create good illusions about it. A lot of it is the matter of your own style and your particular situation. And, yeah, it is also so fucking complicated. But, in a sense, not going so nuanced and complicated about it will make your life even more complicated than that. There is also can be a high degree of egoic motives and dangers of self-deception in this subject, but it's hard to avoid it in things like that. I hope what I wrote will be useful to you and other people who read it. I definitely got a lot of value by articulating my thoughts on the topic

You also seem to hold a negatively biased view on manipulation. Yes, pickup is a pretty much 100% about manipulation, just like any other type of relating to someone. But what is wrong about it? Is it really the manipulation bad or is it something else that is bad? Give it a contemplation, bro. Would manipulating someone into some positive state be bad? For example, making a girl laugh, or making someone feel loved. Making someone laugh = manipulation, you see? You can't make someone feel something without manipulation by the definition. So, there probably more about the way it is done rather than the concept of manipulation itself... There is a lot more juiciness in this topic

It's super useful from student's POV how you do Q/A and address common pitfalls that people have (Or ridiculing silly ones ). You "pre-adressing" these points in videos is very good, but not as raw as the direct implementation struggle which a lot of us have. Also, people on this forum seem to be way more serious than people in youtube comments, although could be better of course

LOL! So true

Nooo, girl. You're gaming 24/7, it's just unconscious for you and you deny that you do

@Forestluv Interesting insight. I actually think I get tricked by "sciency" books a lot. A lot of scientist-authors sounds very yellow in the written word: very unbiased, unpartial view, trying to integrate things, find something new, finding interconnections, etc, very pleasureful to read. And I'm not even sure if these were just some high quality science books or it's just something about science itself that is yellow in its nature. Like science done right resembles yellow thinking. Or you could even say that the founding idea of science is very yellow, the spirit of science is yellow, yet many mediocre scientists can't keep it up (or keep up only partially) I've also read many dogmatic books where science guys were clearly just biased into some one or a few directions, especially with soft sciences like history, sociology and polytology

Lol, going meta will skyrocket your results in attraction, it seems that you're doing something wrong. Just start contemplating dating and what the girl is

Well, we inherited this system from USSR, in which all healthcare was completely free. But now we also had an emergence of capitalism and people creating a bunch of private clinics. Doctors get paid like 2-5x there, compared to government clinics, so the best doctors go here leaving the vast amount of population with stable mediocrity (unless they have $ for paid clinics)

Well, we have a free healthcare here in Russia, but who cares, they can only treat the most obvious/light diseases. If you'd want some serious medical help you'll go to the paid clinic

Tbh I think conservativism can sometimes work very well for a country's collective organism. I'd even go as far as to say that it might be the best way for Russia to go right now, because way too many top 1% people want (or already did) leave a country right now. If Russia had more patriotism in its nation Russia would easily become a supreme power house and top 1-3 country in the world as it was for some centuries. The main problem is, really, that the elite people are migrating to EU/US and you have the lack of talent

Perceiving the problems itself is a highly relative activity usually. Conveservatives will deny a lot of problems even exist (like with climate change, for example), so they only focus on those, that they think are worthwhile. And from that POV they might actually come up with better problem solutions relative to their POV and thus making America better (Although from our or progressive POV it will suck long term) The problem is usually required to have a certain desired ideal state where the problem is no longer present and everything is "good". It will be 2 different things for conservatives/progressives. Some solutions to problems can be seen as actually making things worse by another party, so here we are, creating tons of opinions of everything

Realize that you are not actually an incel. From what it sounds like you chose to suck with women and you chose to have these beliefs. Therefore, you voluntarily was celibate even though you craved for sex/relationship/intimacy. You were just using poor strategies/lacking knowledge in that domain or generally didn't care enough for the subject You can change everything around. Then it becomes about voluntarily working on your dating game and improving your communications and intimacy skills. They actually require some decent effort to become good at it, so feel free to take your time and don't be too harsh on yourself. Don't compare yourself to the people to which it all comes naturally (At least yet). The truth is that they just had tons of practice earlier in life and you didn't, you chose to do other things and it's actually all fine. You can now consciously choose to become good with women and put the attention required to do so in the skills/learning about women Or you can consciously choose to do all this stuff later if you feel like it won't be strategically sound to do it now (or at all)

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Unsubscribe from 98-99% channels you watch and kill their "Recommended" grid with browser extension. Probably delete youtube on your phone as well or Download some 3rd party app that blocks recommendations. You can't battle these recommendations and clickbaits unless you're as conscious as Buddha. They are designed to target your current life problems and the creators do very cancerous stuff with copywriting (often borderline unethical)

From my insights, the main reason why women don't feel attracted to these "nice guys" because such guys tend to be sheep, in a sense. Women just subconsciously don't trust these guys to be able to generate a good amount of resources and "goodies" for you and your future family. Why bother if that will be the case? Totally relatable women's POV, imo. At the other hand you can be an "alpha" leader and also be fairly nice to everybody, things will be much smoother and it is not like these things are contradictory to one another And the main reason for why we, men, get attracted to beautiful women is because we subconsciously believe that she'll make us better kids, pure primal brain in a sense. And other qualities rather than looks are basically about being a good mother,wife and a "companion" (Intelligent - can have good conversations with, can discuss stuff, a good family diplomat, a good house manager, etc). I like this POV a lot, it seems to hold a lot of truth

Yeah, totally. I actually respect pickup a lot and find it very useful/good skill to learn. I feel it can become way more conscious tho, there is definitely room for a conscious pickup or conscious dating niche and it becoming more popular rather than mainstream version of pickup

Yeah, totally. And too many resources teach this unholistic approach to dating as a pure manipulation game. With all this ghosting, ignoring, treating people like shit on purpose, being way too edgy than you need. And then they wonder why the actual long term relationship sucks, not these 1-3 month hangouts. I'd say it is because they build it on a shit foundation to begin with. All of this pickup stuff works wonders for 1-3 month flakes, though, but not so much for the long term. Long term is a whole separate domain and you'll actually get hurt if you transfer way too many concepts from short term seduction (But some are very nice and transferable - like being a man who knows his shit, for example, and many others)

Lol

I came up with a good illustration: If you really want to make her a Queen, you should make yourself a King first Nothing is wrong with putting her on a pedestal, as long as you're on this pedestal too

Bro, it's great to treat women nicely, don't drop it. It's actually a game changer. But what you also need is to own your character completely, own totally who you are, being very grounded, then - you'll get amazing results being nice. For me personally being SUPER NICE became sort of my style, I am OVERLY NICE and I'd say I am much more nicer than most guys (maybe 99%). But being nice of that caliber means you almost drop any judgement and accept the person as he is and you're welcoming him in whatever way he is. It's very different form of nice as what we call typical "nice guys" have. They are not actually nice, they are hypocrites and women sense that and don't trust them (as they should). Be so nice women can't ignore you, ultimate form of nice, it's super contagious. Not the meak form of nice, but powerful and empowering one. Imagine being a servant as some janitor vs being a servant as a king. King serves people too, but in a very different way and manner P.S. That being said, I totally acknowledge the style of being a bit jerky, way too playful and many other things. After you have some fundamentals down it becomes more about the style of your personality. And of course it's never about simple gimmicks, actually go and learn the skill of communication and you'll be at a very good place in this area

@Leo Gura Do you photoshop these thumbnails yourself? They are super good

I think I"ll run an experiment soon and try unplugging from all that shit completely and see how I feel with/without it

Work on getting a direction consciously. Really deeply question what you really want to do right now? What would be the best course of action? Ask deeply and really care for obtaining an answer, don't be sleazy about it and you'll be able to get it

Ask yourself: Am I knowledgeble enough? Soak that in and contemplate for 10-15 minutes You'll know

@Leo Gura Sounds cool