Highest

I see that which exists as real. I think that's where our perspective differ, but yeah we can agree to disagree. For now at least ? A ego self which never the less is real as fuck or you wouldn't mention it so much. Illusory doesn't mean unreal. Nothing is unreal, including illusion itself.

Indeed, I value that which never changes (awarness) above all, but I personally can't deny anything to be illusory if it's happening in my direct experience. Doesn't matter if it comes and goes, if it changes etc. It's of course ultimately a matter of perspective. Note, just have to say that the unconscious aka not being aware or conscious of someting, like that it's a spider in your hair, is fuckings real. And it goes very deep, but no matter how unconscious unconscioussness goes, it's all real. Unconscioussness is real. Contrary to awarness which can never not-be-aware or change.

I like that qoute. And yeah, oneness doesn't mean sameness. But to say something is unreal is to surely deny a part of reality. I have made this mistake but now I see it differently. To see someone unconscious of playing an illusion bothered me. Now I see that both the unconscious and the illusion being played cannot be more real than real. There is only reality, only existence.

Illusion: Here I am. Human: You God damn unreal thing. Just by giving it a name, you created it, gave it existence and meaning. To go full circle is to become conscious that reality is illusion and vice versa. Illusion itself is reality.

Illusion: Haha indeed ??xD

This.

You make it all sound so real ?

"This is an illusion". Where is this illusion? "There it is, can't you see it, be aware of it?" Illusion: LOL "facepalm".

Yup ?

It was experienced in that moment, in my direct experience. So it existed, thus making it nothing less than real. When I awoke, whatever I experienced was existent aka real in that moment.

No, go full circle. The fact of you being aware of it just proves from your own POV that it's not only Real, but existent. If you were not aware of this mind-created notion "illusion", it simply wouldn't be real or exist. But there is no such thing as non-existence. And there is no such thing as something being unreal if it exists, if it just appear in your direct experience, never the less if you are aware of it, it's real and denying that is delusion.

Imagination=Reality. There are no illusion, illusion itself is as real as it gets. All there is, is this direct conscious aware experience. It's not an illusion, it's pure raw reality. All that which happens within it must be embraced and accepted as real, or suffer delusion. You must accept yourself, not only as The One, as God or whatever you feel you truly are - no, all of you.

This is an awakening into itself just to read this. Pure Truth. ??

This is literally going full circle. More like returning home again. They say God is your home, I say God already made everything your home. They go on reaching God, the ultimate experience, the highest awakening. Do so, but come back home. Everything and everyone is waiting for you, not to save them as a God or Guru, no just to be with you.

There is a problem which arise when one goes too far with spiritual work as myself and many others. I myself are an introvert and I believe I'm spirtually gifted, given the fact that I was thrown into a rather supernatural spiritual realm just days after doing meditation for the first time in my life. It began slowly by seeing auras and energies, then it accelerated as the days went by. How this, without any psycadelics beside weed is possible, I don't know. Anyways, when this passed, I still meditated everyday for 2 years, being immersed in total emptiness aka no-self, clearly saw the illusion we call "Ego" and "Person", until I became conscious for the first time of the Self with a capital S. However, seeing all the illusion of myself has directly made me see the illusion which most human beings play, which many have said as well. It's not that we play an illusion, it's that we are the illusory actor playing an illusory game, and it's rather ugly. Most are unconscious of how they literally play this game. But for those who have becomed conscious of it and can't play it anymore since it's illusory , it seems to be difficult now what to do. We all have been used to act like a person, now that it's been seen through, what do we do including myself. Real advices are appreciated, not only for myself but anyone who struggles with this problem.

I already have but will do so more tomorrow ❤️? It didn't feel like I disconnected from God or myself like I imagined it, it was and is liberation for me right now. It's what God wants, it's what I want. It's what ought to be. Indeed, with any end there is a new beginning. With every beginning, there must be an end.

Haha the point is not to reach the highest, the point is to realize I already actually have, no matter how ignorant that may sound. The point now is not to continue, it's to end it. To live, breath and fuckings just be. Tommorow I will smoke some weed since it's been a while and look at the sunset or whatever I can look at, in the forest and forget about all this spiritual work. Just be in the moment, taking in all of it like it's my very first time. Just let it all go, just relax my body, just relax my mind. Just relax. @Nahm

You are the first one to appreciate the spiritual work I have done ❤️ Yes, it's time to let go, stop imagining that this work needs more work, that it will take my whole life, that I need to sacrifice my life to it. Stop imagining it hasn’t reached it's end, it has now... T There is nothing to become, only myself to purify. Only myself to become myself, be myself. I'm fully conscious now, I am a human being. Nothing more, nothing less.

Yes, I'm done... It has been done. Tnx brother. You are extraordinary. My words cannot do justice, you are beyond words. Indeed, I love you. Simply because you are me, simultaneously not me. Beautiful. It's time to fix myself. It's time to leave spritual work behind, focus on personal work.

I don't deny it, somehow I'm conscious of God and simultaneously a fuckings mess. I don't deny it anymore, I have found out what I am, but I have totally ignored doing even the slightest work on who I am, even a slightest work of what they call personal devolopment, shadow work etc. I found myself, at the same time I ignorered myself. It's time to go now God...

Haha sorry for the question Nahm, what a deluded question which only I can find out, using the very source to guide me of course. God, the dark side of spirituality is made conscious of now, it has made me both conscious and a mess simultaneously. @Nahm

@The Awakened Vikingtnx?? You are right. The truth is that I can't help but turn into this "actor", when I see everyone around me playing it. But this is what everyone with this problem needs to hear. There is a solution, a change can happen without the need to play an illusion if you don't want to, at the same time accepting it fully even if everyone around you is unconscious of it, for the undeniably true and real permanent thing is that we are all awareness, no matter if we are unconscious of it. Awareness is primordial, what we are, our entire direct experience and visual field. It's there eternally, beyond consciousnesses and unconsciousness. The only solution, as I see it, is to dissolve the power of fear and fuckings change myself. Nothing and no one needs to change, but myself and my delusions. I'm conscious of this now. Acceptance is key. I accept now everything as it is. The only question, if not the powerful actor, what should one become and how to?

Yeah, I have a lot of inner work and fine tuning to do, immensly. I literally isolated myself for years, in order to figure out what I am, after watching Mooji. It's time to leave it behind now, focusing on this supposed problem with all I have, even if it takes me years. I don't want to become some kind of super human or God around anyone, or some illusion. But there is surely other choices, it's just that I see the illusory game to much, to the point of others seeing it even. But I can't help see what I see, in myself included. I will overcome this due. Tnx ? @Anna1 tnx, your insights are good and helpful ?

@Anna1 Yeah, there is no problem with being in the present moment for me, my problem is when others try to drag me down to the illusion and look at me as non-human for refusing to do so. It's like an ant becoming conscious around non-ants, becoming then conscious that these non-ants are in fact ants themselves s, then becoming conscious that all these ants are unconscious that they in fact are ants but cannot help but being unconscious of it and thus acting like non-ants.

I see, sense, feel and are conscious that my fellow beings including myself is "acting" as One illusion aka the ego or person, everyone acting as their unique illusion. And I can see that they are unconscious of it. This is painful to see, but once you see it you can't deny it. And when I act as this illusion, I can't feel anything but suffer inside cuz I'm conscious it's not me! I believe we have a choice in this matter but are too afraid to take it.