Forestluv

There is a protest every night at the courthouse. A small percentage of the protestors are “agitators”. They pound the fence, through fireworks into the courtyard and start small fires in the courtyard. This provokes the feds / ppd to come out and deploy tear gas and impact munitions against the protestors. These agitators are not part of some organization called “antifa”. If you watch livestreams, you can see the events live and learn from protestors there. The reporters often describe the events as they occur. During the early evening protests, BLM speakers tell the protestors not to cause destruction or mayhem, yet a small percentage of protestors lose their discipline and start agitating the feds. Personally, I would like to see other protestors there reprimand the agitators and tell them to calm down. I agree with you that it would be more productive if the agitators chilled out and the feds stayed inside the bldg. Yet there is a lot of frustration and anger.

An inside look from a protestor live stream. It’s getting intense. The paramilitary just threatened they will come out and start arresting.

In terms of higher SD levels, I would suggest expanding beyond simply catching and imprisoning sex offenders. That is certainly an important component, yet if we want to actually reduce the numbers of sex offenses in society we would also need to consider an address other components that contribute to high rates of sex offenses.

Exploratory discussions of racism are fine. Yet trying to push blue level propaganda like “racism is a myth” isn’t gonna fly. Yet its fine to put it as an example of blue ideology in SD blue mega thread.

I’m so impressed by new creative modes of expression and protest. If you don’t grok the energetics and power of this, you haven’t fully embodied green. It’s not just an intellectual thing.

To me, this looks like healthy blue with a green clincher.

Be respectful of others on the forum.

@LaucherJunge My comments were to a forum member that I consider to be open-minded. I don’t consider you to be open-minded.

@Bodigger Tonight hundreds of United States veterans came to Portland to peacefully protest. One of those men was Mike Hastie. He was born in 1945 and served our country in the Vietnam War. He introduced himself to the federal militia as a veteran and spoke of his experience in Vietnam. A federal militia man pepper sprayed Mike from six inches directly into his eyes and left him to suffer. Mike was in agony for an hour before someone in the community was able to help him with cleansing spray. An unarmed 75 year old Vietnam veteran. This is not right. It’s gut-wrenching.

Fence coming down in one section! Snipers shooting gas grenades from the rooftop.

Also insulation to block the feds lines of sight and prevent them from shooting projectiles at head height. The protestors adapt and get better each night. multi cam : https://woke.net/

? ? Commentators said someone is cutting the fence. They may be cutting a hole so they can go in and out. Lots of leaf blowers tonight. So far they are easily blowing back the gas. Yet last night the feds released enough gas to fill a three block radius. The Portland Police are now claiming shields are “an indicator that someone plans to fight”. . . . Umbrellas and boards of wood? That’s some weak sauce.

They feds don’t want to come out when the crowd is big. They come out when the crowd starts shaking the fence. After about 10min. they crowd seats pounding the fence and shaking it. It’s kinda crazy how a fence is the centerpiece of the battle. The feds looked dejected at times last night. It’s a miserable job for them.

It would escalate things to a whole nother level. I think the protestors know they are now winning with the fence up and are content tormenting the feds in the courtyard. The feds have boxed themselves in there.

I heard 30% bigger, yet it has thinned out and is now entered the next stage. The soft protestors have left after the first few rounds of gas. The hardcore protestors are remain. They fence almost came down last night. When the feds go back in the courthouse, the protestors will eventually start shaking the fence to agitate the feds. Then the feds come out to protect the fence. They feds want to stay inside. After a while, the protestors want them to come out and shake the fence. It’s an interesting battle. I think the protestors are winning and empowered with the fence up. I think it will stay up tonight since they are winning with it up. They are throwing trash, water bottles and mild fireworks inside. Plus a some lazers. Last night the shot the feds with silly string glue. They could easily take down the fence if they wanted to. But I don’t think they will since they are now winning.

When the crowd is large, they are winning the battle. I think they want to make the feds lives so miserable that they leave. Yea, they create these phalanx formations to fight gas and protect themselves from impact projectiles.

As I watch, I don’t think the protestors will take it down tonight because they are now winning the battle with the fence up. When they are winning, it’s to their advantage to leave it up. It looks like ppd might be in the courtyard with the feds, which would be a new development. Or the feds have some new blue gear

The feds put the fence up. It’s counter-intuitive

There are many leaf blowers. They need one leaf blower about every 10 ft for maximum effectiveness The feds have also brought leaf blowers, yet they are outnumbered. The protestors have gotten very skilled. It’s impressive

Today is day 58 of teargassing. The protestors have gotten sooo good at redirecting gas. They work together with leaf blowers, umbrellas and sheets of wood. The gas grenades don’t ignite on fire for about five seconds and the protestors have gotten very bold with picking them up and throwing them back in the courtyard.

From the federal militia. When the crowd is large, the feds will stay inside the fence. Inside the courtyard. They don’t come out until the crowd thins down to a few hundred. Around 3am

This is the best cam right now https://www.twitch.tv/veteranforpeace Things are escalating. The gassing has started. The protestors have gotten very skilled at combating the gas and their tolerance is much higher.

It’s gotten bigger than blm with the feds entering the state. Yet the core issue is still blm. Not just Floyd. All of them. Breanna and the rest

It’s unpredictable. If the crowd is large the feds will unload massive gas and shoot high impact projectiles to defend the fence. I don’t know what would happen if it comes down. If it’s later in the night with a smaller crowd, they can defend it better. I think a lot of the protestors know the fence is protecting them. They shake it really hard to agitate the feds. It is the highest priority for the feds. It’s the only reason the come out. They would much rather stay inside and just come out occasionally.

The fence is protecting the protestors. The feds want to protect it at all costs. They want to stay inside and only come out to protect the fence. They stay inside the courtyard until the crowd thins out around 3am. Then they come out and patrol the streets The protestors have gotten very good at combating the tear gas. They form protected phalanxes and blow the gas bas into the courtyard with leaf blowers. Plus their tolerance for gas exposure is much higher. So the feds have been unleashing enormous amounts of gas. The crowd is chill right now, yet it will likely intensify. I don’t know how the feds will respond if the fence comes down. It would highly escalate the situation. If the crowd was still large, they may feel like their lives are in danger. They may run back into the courthouse or fire lots of high impact projectiles. I hope it doesn’t get worse than that.