Forestluv

This depends on the mind’s level of expansion and perspective. Imagine we are giving a tour about South America and discussing how the various countries in South America are inter-related. Someone in the group as never been outside of Ecuador and doesn’t realize there is more to South America than Ecuador. Since mind is contracted, it will misinterpret what the tour guide is teaching because the mind in interpreting everything through the small lens of Ecuador. So when the tour guide talks about “countries”, the mind thinks “Ecuador”. When the tour guide speaks of Peruvian pan flutes, the mind will say “That is insane and crazy!! That isn’t real!!! The tour guide is delusional!!”. This person can enter devilry by trying to block people in the tour group from realizing greater truth (from awakening to the many countries in South America). From the perspective of those trapped within a contracted mind and defending that contraction, they will want to challenge the tour guide. It’s not even about the tour guide, it’s about expanding awareness to realize more South American countries. Yet a small locked mind will misinterpret the tour guide’s message and will personalize it. It does little good to engage with such a mind because they will only use their map of Ecuador. We cannot show them a map of South America unless they are willing to let go of their Ecuador map. And since they are using the wrong lens, they will misinterpret everything in the bigger picture. If we discuss Rio de Janeiro they will say “There is no Rio in Quito Ecuador, show it on my map!”. . . The key for them is to realize they are missing something, get curious, let go of their small map and explore. Yet this is precisely what they are not willing to do and some minds will go to extraordinary lengths to hold onto their small map. For some minds, it is a matter of life and death. For those who have direct experience and are aware of the larger map, it is disappointing, frustrating and comical to see someone contracted within a small map saying “Looks like the tour guide is worried about stepping outside his comfort zone to discuss how Ecuador is South America”.

It depends on what his model of consciousness levels is. Relate to to infinity, a 10% increase is still infinity. What is 10% of infinite Pi? So in that context, sure a 10% increase is in impossible. We could also create a model in which 100% is absurdly high. We could say 100% growth is increasing was height by 100 feet. Well, 10% of that is increasing one’s height by 10 feet , which isn’t possible. If he uses one’s baseline level of consciousness as the standard, I find the claim absurd. One would need to create a bizarre concept of “consciousness”. People routinely expand their baseline level of consciousness by 10%. Look around. Look at one’s own progress.

Teaching spiritual awakenings through sex is a hard needle to thread

I’ve noticed the thinking mind often enters and creates a story in a timeline to make sense of intuition. Right brain intuition appears and left brain judgement, rationality, analysis takes hold of it.

@BlackMaze Contemplating “what is trust?” will give a new perspective on intuition.

JP seems fairly open-minded on different practices such as psychedelics, breathing, diet. His heavy anchors are with the cultural stuff.

One thing I’ve observed in my own mind is how madness is often being trapped between two worlds / realities. If I can flip over to one, I generally do better. And if I go into an insane zone and return, I’ve learned how to relate to it as if it was just a dream. For example, I was watching a documentary on psychopaths and one guy was talking in depth about his heinous crimes and what is was like for him. I got so into it and then “I got it”. I knew what it was like as if I was him, a psychopathic criminal. Then my mind and body freaked out that there is a monster within me and that’s who I am. It was that real. Yet then I was able to relate to it as if it was a dream. Like “Oh yea, I had this crazy dream I was a psychopathic criminal last night. It seemed so real. I’m glad it was just a dream”. Yet I can also see how a mind would have a serious crisis for months over something like this and be terrified to talk to anyone about it, which would make the condition worse.

I have a friend that spent a couple years in and out of psyche wards in her early 20s (about 30 years ago). Sometimes when I talk about different conscious states, she goes back to her “psychosis” days to relate to me. She will pause and say “Omigosh!! I experienced that back when I was in a psyche ward. I was told that was psychosis. Are you saying it’s a spiritual thing?”.

Salvia sounds like the flip side of San Pedro

That’s great too. Another view.

Connor’s recent video on “Why Buddaha would’ve been held in a psych ward” has some nice insights. He shares some insights of his psyche ward experience and how the structure of psyche wards itself has aspects of insanity. For example, one question screening questions asks if the person has thoughts of being God. If they answer “yes”, it is judged as delusional and psychotic. Yet in another context, it is a deep spiritual realization. . . As well, the environment is not conducive to mental health. There were no opportunities to do things like meditation.

@James123 Nice ?

If it wasn’t for those mean LGBTQ college kids, JP would be swimming in Turquoise by now.

“Ultimate” is also a superlative. I find it curious how superlatives are used and mind immersion into superlatives. We could say there is an ultimate truth and non-ultimate truths. In one context, it is a deep insight. Yet when the duality is seen, it’s silly in another context. At the higher levels, beings can be “multi lingual”. When they speak of a “thing” it can appear as though they have not awakened to another “thing”. In one context there is what appears to be stuckness within the process of thoughts. When the mind is transcending thought constructs, it becomes obvious when other minds are stuck within thought processes. There is strong contrast. Yet eventually this duality collapses as well into Nothing. What I write here is both thought processes and not thought processes. Thought processes, feelings, intuition, awakenings, cows, trees, quantum mechanics, face palms, nonduality and cookies all dissolve into Nothing. It’s so beautiful. As you eloquently express: ♥️

Levels is a different dynamic to me. Levels suggests a process of increasing complexity, expansion etc. For example, different levels of mathematics from basic addition to advanced calculus. A superlative adds in a new dynamic. We can have levels without an end. We can say there are various levels of math and have it open-ended. A superlative of “highest” adds a cap onto the levels. Saying calculus in the highest level of math fundamentally changes the structure. I would agree that superlatives can imply superiority, which is a human dynamic. Superlatives can also be used to get people’s attention. I see various reasons. I was referring to how superlatives don’t seem to fit with openings. As you suggest, implicit superiority may be part of that. . . Another metaphor I imagine would be exploring a forest together and someone knows about a hidden passage that opens up a whole new area of exploration. In the context of simply openings, levels and superlatives don’t seem to fit for me. If someone said “Look here! The highest opening!”. It would sound weird. Yet this is kinda a side issue of how humans frame and package. It’s not a criticism of the content. If too much emphasis is placed on packaging, it super annoying to those into content. For example, if I got a Christmas present and focused on the packaging of the gift, it can come across as being a pedantic jackass to those interested in the contents of the gift. At more intense levels, it can come across as rude, annoying, condescending and hurtful.

Interesting. One thing I notice is that Leo is very good with communicating through facial expressions, tone of voice and rhythm. In one channel, that is helpful to articulate ideas - yet as you mention, there are other energetic channels as well. For example, relaxing an audience into a peaceful place can be helpful in articulating ideas. I went to an Adyashanti retreat and he was super good at relaxing the audience. After 10min. It was like everyone took a Xanax. It was a good environment and a lot of people could relax their guard.

I have a friend who is very entangled with a spiritual teacher. The teacher is awesome. He is genuine and at a super high spiritual level. He gives her a lot of grounding: directions, practices and feedback. A year ago, I spoke a bit about how she is her Rinpoche teacher as well as Buddha and Jesus and on and on. They are all within Her. She got a glimpse of it and had some sort of satori that was overwhelming. We were in a cafe, and it was a bit odd as she was shaking and hyper-ventilating. Yet I acted as if it was totally normal and the people in the cafe settled down. I saw her the following week and she was a mess - talking about whether she should leave her Sangha. At a personal level, it was really disruptive and stressful to her. So I pulled back and talked about the value of spiritual teachers along the path. She got re-grounded and we never spoke about it again. . .until last night. . . . She mentioned that she is now working to transcend her teacher and he is guiding her along that process. This time I shut my yapper and asked “interesting. How has the process been for you? Tell me about it”.

Oh, the content is great stuff. It’s an aspect of human nature that I find curious. An ego’s love to seek for opening doesn’t quite fit to me. In that context, the framing of “a new realm of consciousness” would align better with seeking for opening. Or perhaps, “more expansive” or “liberating”. For example, if I was trapped in a cave and seeking an opening, “highest” doesn’t quite work for me. Superlatives like “the *highest* level of consciousness have a different energetic orientation to me. Sometimes I get curious about the framing and packaging of content.

Sure, yet I got bored and decided to create some context within a dimension of infinite dimensions. It’s better than watching Netflix. Sure, there is value in that. Personally I don’t resonate with intermediaries. At times I wish I did. Having a spirit guide would be kinda cool at times. Like a spirit Raven or something. I’m just not very good at creating that type of thing.

In the context of One source, Buddha was within the source. I like to cut out the middle-man and go straight to the source. Yet others seem to resonate with intermediaries such as sages, spirit guides, enlightened beings etc. In terms of teachings, all teachings are limited since any teaching is not another teaching.

It’s curious how the mind loves to label a state of consciousness as the *highest* state of consciousness. I see spiritual people do this a lot. Seems like there can be various desires underlying it. In some contexts, it could be helpful, in other contexts a block.

That is only one psychedelic realm. There are many others.

I’ve found yin yoga with 4 minute positions to be a great alternative for extended static seating - which is not good for my body long term. With the right mindset and environment, yin yoga allows for surrender, calmness and meditative states. And it’s very good for the body. There is some ‘discomfort’, yet transcending into the comfort within discomfort is part of the benefits for me. As well, extended shivassana after yoga can go into deeply relaxed, calm spaces

If one defines reality as a certain way, then it cannot be another way based on that definition. If I define reality as “this”, of course it cannot be “that”. I’ve already defined it as “this”. Underling this mindset is an assumption that there is an objective, external reality that is “this”. Based on that assumption, of course this is this and not that. There is some fluidity in that construct, yet it is mostly rigid. It would be like asking “Can rocks float as if there is no gravity? If so, why don’t they?”. But if the mind does not accept an objective, external reality - rigid form becomes very fluid and potential is greatly expanded.