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@tashawoodfall I try to get "in touch" with the environment. E.g. kneeling down and stroking grass.

"You" doesn't become enlightened.

Indeed.

Indeed. There is awareness of the self construct and loss of identification. This goes against millions of years of human evolution and a lifetime of social conditioning. I've had to return to that awareness over and over and over. . . Eventually, the self stops being the "Main Act".

@Capital I've found when the personality relaxing there is space for creativity to appear.

For me, it took an Ayahuasca retreat in Peru to crack the shell.

@MM1988 Meditation is like sitting in a soothing hot tub vs a psychedelic mindfuck.

This is like discussing the flavor of an apple vs. taking a bite and tasting it. Take a bite yourself. It’s always availble, free and oh so juicy,

@Victor Mgazi It’s been a process for me. There are cracks in the self construct and glimpses of truth. Then the personality returns and there is no space. I return through the cracks into the present “what is” over and over. But my person can’t do it. Relax the person, let go and it may appear.

@blazed Your list is missing the most important person of all

@Ferdi Le well said. It’s sublime ridiculousness

I think a simple example of the importance of context is an “inside joke”. Without the context, it makes no sense at all.

@Max_V I’m still trying to work through it. One thing I know as an empath: energy vampires, like narcissists, are attracted to me like a magnet.

Are you aware of “reality checks” to help induce lucid dreaming?

Yoga worked wonders for me. Mind-body-spirit balance.

It’s totally impersonal. You are speaking your truth, based on your genetics and life conditioning. But it’s not The Truth. It’s just appearances and a desire to express oneself. And all these thoughts in my mind are also appearances with no more relevance than a dog bark.

If you observe your beliefs without attachment you will realize they have no more relevance than a bird chirp.

@Pluck A lot of thought and emotion underlies that perspective. And the strength of attachment to the perspective is impressive. What would happen if you sat with each of those beliefs and simply observed them without attachment and let go of the beliefs for a a little while?

@pierce_the_heavens There are appearances. Adding a reasons to an appearance is just another appearance. I wonder if there is a reason humans want to attribute reasons to appearances.

To take it a step deeper: the idea that the room you were looking at is not true is also just a thought, with no more relevance than a bird chirp. Talking nonduality is really hard since language is dualistic.

I haven’t had a drink in 26 years. All this time, I had no idea that not drinking alcohol was a hindrance. I better have a standard drink tonight! ?

I can see how it might be perceived as uncommon, yet how is it an error? “Error” implies that something is “wrong”. It’s happening exactly how it should given the complex interplay of genetics, life history, physiology and environmental input.

@Sockrattes Is a 7 ft. tall man an error?

@Nevon If during self inquiry my mind is analyzing the question and figure it out, I’ll pause to reset. That’s not what it’s about. For me, it’s more like sitting with the question in stillness with a bit of curiosity. A recent question was “what would happen if I allow everything in this moment to be exactly as it is”. I would just sit in stillness. Sometimes there would be an appearance that spontaneously arose from the ether.

5-Meo-Dmt report. I’ve done 5-meo about 10 times. My last trip was a couple months ago. Plugged 25mg. In my experience, I begin to grey/blackout at 30mg. 25mg is a strong experience with awareness. I had no intention heading in. I have always layed on my bed during the experience, yet this time I was called to my yoga mat after plugging. There was some thought resistance that I shouldn’t be doing yoga on 5-Meo. My coordination and balance would be off, I could pass out, I could injure myself. Those thoughts dissolved and there I was on my mat. I have not practiced yoga until recently - I just finished a 30 day intro series at home on YT. My sober yoga experience is that I am imbalanced, very inflexible and wobbly. My breath is often choppy or I hold my breath. I’m exactly what I would imagine a 48 y.o. man to be after a month of daily yoga practice. In contrast to yoga, I’ve had many years of meditation practice. During my first strong trip on psilocybin, there was a *knowing* that years of meditation did not bring. I had a similar sense here with yoga. That there was a knowing that years of yoga theory and practice wouldn’t have brought. With the ego dissolved, there was a massive expansion. There was no worry, doubt, hesitation, criticism or angst. There was just a knowing beyond “me” that knew what to do. It just appeared. The breathing, movement, balance, awareness and energy all flowing together. And none of it was *mine*. There was this presence like the knowing of yogis. The mat became a mirror of me. The mind and body flowed in ways I didn’t think it was ready for. Yet the mind/body just knew what to do - without any thoughts.