Forestluv

This seems like a mystical experience. Are there moments you feel like you have to surrender to it? Are there moments of vulnerability and anxiety? Or is it just blissful?

For sure! It seems people with a strong aversion to relativism are unable to relate to the relative experience of others. Objectivists loath subjectivity and tend to lack empathy with others. They feel safe in their head and unsafe in their heart.

I’m oversimplifying the term ideology. He may have a network of related ideologies. Yet I think he is clearly closed-minded to many modes of thought such as post-modernism and cultural relativism. Not just closed-minded. He demonizes groups of people and actively tries to discredit them. As well, his ideas like “Universal Moral Law” are highly regressive.

@Emerald I imagine all his notoriety, book sales, speaking gigs and adoration is reinforcing his ideology, which makes it harder to wake up.

I’m imagining JP at the acid test parties in Haight Ashbury with the Grateful Dead, Timothy Leary and love-fest hippies. And imagine JP at Burning Man. . .

@Jack River Well said!

From my POV it is relative because you seem to have resistance toward what people in this thread are trying to reveal to you. To expand your mind, queston your own assumptions and beliefs. Question how your own relative experience has shaped and biased these beliefs. Question whether there is attachment and identification with these beliefs. Leo covered much of this in his recent 65 principles for a good life video.

I don’t get the sense your questions arise in a mind that is genuine, open and explorative. I sense a hidden ideological agenda. The exploring mind has the responsibility to find truth via self inquiry, contemplation, research and observation. Be aware if your mind tries to shift that responsibility to others. For example, seeking to have someone else convince you or prove to you a point. Also, a desire to protect a belief and “win” a point. These are common ego traps that constrict a mind.

Were you able to take a philosophy of mind class?

Samsara

Buckle up, my friend! It’s one heck of a ride!

@Tony 845 That’s so awesome. Isn’t cool how spirituality brings us to places we never knew existed?

A nonbinary person does not limit their identification to either male or female gender constructs. I find it fascinating to contemplate and I’m so curious how novel nonbinary identities might emerge. Part of the Orange to Green transition is to see how adherence to traditional male / female roles and bias toward a cis-gendered orientation is irrational. Green is centered more on relative experience and being. Orange is centered on rational thought, yet is unable to see how their own thoughts are irrational from a Green perspective.

Great questions for you to contemplate! These are the types of contemplations that can help a Blue/Orange person expand their awareness into Green.

Imagine being a nonbinary person. How might this person answer your question?

Super! You are a step ahead of JP! What do you think is the most effective way to integrate nonbinary pronouns into society with the goal of increasing acceptance, equality and inclusion for our nonbinary brothers and sisters? As well, how might normalizing nonbinary pronouns help bring awareness to the irrationality of traditional gender roles and cis-genered privilege?

Super! Let’s move on to inclusion for transgender and nonbinary pronouns ?

@VioletFlame Well said violet. ? Many men resist understanding those views and JP isn’t helping matters.

He gives blue/orange men reasons to resist and marginalize Green progressives. They love him for that. I think JP threads pop up periodically because he represents a trap many actualizers work through as they increase their awareness.

Beautiful. I like how he speaks of that which is beyond what the mind can conceive.

In the OP’s video, JP’s conceptualization of a “Universal Moral Law” is based on fundamental misunderstandings of reality and he is attached to an ideology. I can find kernels of truth in JP, yet overall I think he is intentionally perpetuating an ideology to resist what he sees as being immoral (stage Green stuff). He is creating an army of Blue/Orange hybrids that are anti-Green. This will make it harder for them to transition into Green.

@VioletFlame I appreciate your contemplations on human extinction. I hadn’t thought of it like that. So interesting. I’m curious what comes to mind for you with the scenario below. Imagine humans are facing a serious threat to their existence. Perhaps a plague, A.I. or climate change wipes out 90% of humans worldwide. All the remaing humans know their own survival will soon be doomed. Do you think this would trigger a collective existential crisis and awakenings?

It’s not the perspective. It’s not about any perspective. What I am pointing you to is how the perspective is held by the self.

(gasp) The horror! ??

That is one perspective. If there is resistance to another perspective, one need not explore it. The self-biased resistance would likely just reinforce the perspective the person is attached to. This attached perspective is not “wrong, it is simply blocking the light to see another perspective.