Forestluv

Once the self dissolves, is the mind-body more open/free for trans-personal / trans-human “experiences” - such as channeling?

The guitar may start playing itself. . .? Contemplate your nature before you were born. Before you were exposed to language, self concepts, images, rules etc. A smoother ride than the death contemplation. ?

@MM1988 Good question. I’d say two reasons. First, many minds are conditioned to perceive the workd negatively. For example, conditioned to see people as cynical, untrustworthy. This is embodied as there reality - just “how it is”. To let go of these negative perceptions would feel like avoiding what’s “real”. In a sense, it is. An old paradigm of reality is being drconstructed. Second, the ego likes to create problems. It keeps the ego actively in the game and relevant. These problems are perceived as real, so when letting go it may feel like avoiding reality.

Sound advice, thanks. Sometimes it's good to take a step back and get grounded in direct experience.

That sounds good too. I just gave an example, not a definition.

Insights into true nature before the mind-body was born. Before the mind-body was exposed to language, images and knowledge.

When I act in a way that is not need-based it feels geniune. For example, if I give a compliment to someone with no inner motivation for attention, people-pleasing, validation, looking good, get a date etc, It arises from simply appreciation and it feels authentic

LSD tolerance skyrockets. It roughly doubles everyday. It would lose it’s effects after several days straight. It’s not like weed, which can be smoked daily.

That sounds amazing

Oooh, that’s a good one

Have you ever done artwork while tripping? I bet it would be amazing.

@lostmedstudent I’ve been in similar spaces. The evolution process involves both the inner world and the outer world. How does one integrate the two into One? I find social interactions a bit awkward at times.

Mu hasn’t revealed itself to you. You’ve got a lot of priors to go. . .

Soup? ?

@VioletFlame ☺️?

@Preetom That is a super cool story ? and good luck

You seem very mature and have a balance between intellect and creativity/intuition/emotions. Plus, curiosity, appreciation and expression. So, receptive to a variety of life lessons. Overall, characteristics of a wise person.

@VioletFlame I think you are tuned into a few wisdom frequencies ☺️

Ahhh, very nice. I hadn’t thought of it like that - using a thought loop like a mantra to enter ego death. Well, that would make the process a lot smoother.

Veggie curry? C’mon. Chicken Masala is the absolute best, even in a relative cuisine construct. ?

I grew up in the 70s and 80s before the internet / digital age. It’s so interesting to hear younger generations that grew up with the internet talk about living without it.

Back to the Soup again!! ? ?

In terms of stages, I like the Ox analogy. Because of psychedelics, I haven’t had a linear progression through the stages. I’ve jumped ahead many times and back. Integrating it, without contracting it or distorting it, takes a lot of experience and skill, imo

@graded24 There are a wide variety of mystical experiences. I think the mind gets into a problem when a self takes ownership of the experience and/or becomes attached / identified with the experience. I’d say it took me over 30 trips until the trips just “is what it is” without involvement of a self. And then the chains come off - things go deep when the self leaves the picture. I wouldn’t be surprised if those sages’ advice was sound for the majority of trippers. I’ve met many trippers that are lost. They may use it carelessly and recreationally. In Peru, I met lots of voyagers doing Ayahuasca ceremonies multiple times per week. These were generally younger people traveling around the world, seeking and searching for themselves, for something meaningful. And they were completely delusional. They would ramble on about time is an illusion and different dimensions. . . They were in there own little bubble of ideology, group think and delusion. So yes, psychedelics carry both risk and reward. It takes discipline and skill to use this tool well. Many, perhaps most, do not. I had over 20yrs. of meditation and introspective work before my first trip. I did what you’re doing now for over 20yrs. I had a strong foundation before my first trip. I had the experience, discipline, conceptual knowledge and grounding to integrate a lot of lessons from a variety of different consciousness spaces. Some were extremely difficult lessons and very uncomfortable and scary to process. I’ve wanted to back out many times. Overall, the work has greatly expanded the mind’s conscious level and capacity. Yet, this is dependent on one’s baseline level of consciousness. Someone with a high baseline level of consciousness can utilize psychedelics as an extraordinary spiritual tool. So I would tend to agree with sages regarding low conscious minds and psychedelics. Regarding high conscious use is a different story. Here I would like to speak to those sages that had over 20yrs of meditation / introspective work and then used a variety of psychedelics over 100 times. And worked hard to integrate those teachings into their strong foundation. Yes, I’d be very interested in what those sages have to say. In general, would you chose one conscious state or 100+ integrated conscious states? You are giving far too much credit to human teachers and too little credit to your own higher teacher. The teacher beyond human minds.

Flow states are so amazing ?