Forestluv

Left-Right brain integration. Beautiful Chaos.

@Bodhidharma I’d get some 4-aco-dmt.

I've also gone deep into empathetic energy zones. For me it can get too intense. I've had to leave a few situations because the empathy became overwhelming. It's a tool I am learning how to use. As well, I've found it really important to establish personal boundaries when I enter deep empathetic zones. I've dated a few narcissists that were more than happy to vampire my empathetic energy.

Hmmm, I hadn't really thought about it like that. . . I think we are all familiar with the "monkey mind" (no pun intended). As well as a mind that quiets down during meditation. I generally don't really go into meditation with an inquiry goal (yet occasionally I do - like when I was struggling with form=formless). Usually, I will sit still or do be doing yin yoga and reach deeper and deeper states of consciousness. I'm not really waiting for a question to arise either. It's like another realm (I found smoking a little weed + yin yoga can together help relax the mind body into deep relaxation). Then something may arise. There is no attachment, identification or internationalization with it. Sometimes it arises, sometimes not. What arises can be wild. Like paranormal stuff. . . For example, I started dating a gal recently I feel a strong connection/attraction to. Last week during the start of my practice, surface level thoughts about whether I should ask her out again, should I call her later tonight, what we might do on the next date etc. arose. That's surface level stuff I just let go of. 20min. into the practice was deep relaxation and quiet. Then she appeared again. Yet it had a very different essence. It was trans-personal. I just sat with it. It was like her presence was with me. Like a channel had opened. There was observation of how our energies mix. It was deeper than self desires and needs. It was a deeper level of love I guess one could call it. I just let it mix and linger. Yet, my "self" wasn't there. There was no "me" thinking stuff like "Wow!! This is so cool!! It's like another being is here! Gosh, golly I wonder if I should ask it something. The guys on the forum are gonna love this!" There was no person like that present. If there was, I would have changed direction.

@Wisebaxter I will only inquire if my mind is relaxed and quiet. It's counter-productive if I try to inquire with a busy mind. If my mind is still and relaxed, a question such as "What is genuine?" may arise. If my mind starts intellectualizing, I will stop the inquiry. It's more about a state of "being", a "prescence" an "essence". It's not about intellectualizating for me.

This thread is going nowhere. @Sharp If you want a discussion regarding death, please establish context in the OP. For example, that you are referring to "ego death", the experience of "no-self" and liberation from egoic-based suffering. Your OP is ambiguous as it can be suggestive of physical death and glorification of that form of death as being "beautiful" and "inspiring". I'm not saying this is your intention, yet I can see how one could reasonably interpret it like that. Many people on the forum are working through issues related to anxiety, depression and existential crisis and it's not cool to plant that seed. As well, avoid click-bait titles.

As a general reminder: the yellow mega thread is for posting a variety of yellow-level videos by a variety of forum members. A couple comments about a video is fine. Yet the thread is not intended for extended discussions about videos or for a single user to post a series of videos on a particular topic. For those types of discussions, please start a separate thread.

Spiritual practices are are sooo healthy for a mind-body. My spiritual practices are continuously evolving. Something resonates with me and I flow with it. Then it stops resonating and something new enters and starts to resonate. I would recommend finding a practice that resonates with you and to immerse yourself into the actual process that is happening now. And perhaps take the focus off of future results.

@Dean Walker To me, it sounds like development along the empathetic line.

It doesn’t seem like moderation for you. It seems like you are in an “all or nothing” mentality. Moderation lies within those extremes.

@Viking Why not do spirituality in moderation? Spiritual activities for in moderation are generally very healthy for the mind-body. It’s like saying you don’t want to train for a 100 mile ultra marathon race because it would negatively impact your life. There are other options.

@Viking Does it need to be “all or nothing”? What about dedicating 5 hours a week to spirituality? Yoga, meditation, contemplation etc. It’s very healthy and improves performance in other areas of life.

@TisDoney What an amazing and beautiful story. Thank you for sharing it with us. ?

@CreamCat Dang, you keep digging deeper and deepet cat. Nice work.

Well yea, for major things like marraige, buying a home, having a child etc. That’s a whole nother level.

@Sharp Nice contemplations, yet you still have dualities. For example, how can nothing have a polar opposite?

That sounds like some meaningful direct experience. Depth is relative. Based on your personal experience, it was deep. That is the key thing.

I don't get the sense you've had considerable Turquoise direct experience. Meaning is very different at Tier1 and Turquoise levels. I get the sense you are employing Tier1 level meaning and trying to apply it to what you imagine Turquoise might be like.

@Ampresus Rather than seeing it as “better” I would view it as “development” or “maturity”. We could say a 10th grade student is more developed than a 4th grade student. Yet is it fair to say the 10th grade student is “better” than the 4th grade student? To me, that doesn’t seem right. Similiarly, I would say the green stage is more consciousky developed than the blue stage. And it’s really cool to see how curious and excited you are about SD. And that you want to share it with others.

@okulele Spiral dynamic theory is based on social “memes”. How social systems condition individuals and evolution of conscious within inter-connected individuals and society. It’s as if we are all neurotransmitters to each other. Removing an individual from society and placing them in an island for 29 years isn’t really within tge parameters of SD and it would be difficult to evaluate such an individual.

I’ve had to work through “over-seriousness” blocks. There are also aspects of ease, flow, humor, absurdity and silliness that I need to allow and accept.

@Baldmunt This looks like a great personal development framework. One thing I find helpful is to find a balance between having specific, measurable goals and flexibility. If I become to rigid on goals I lose the underlying passion, it then becomes “to do list work” and I may burn out and lise interest. For example, I was super excited to train for a marathon and qualify for the Boston Marathon. I reasearched lots of training plans and assembled a detailed training plan. I extended this to include a specific diet and sleep schedule. I made a 100% commitment to never miss a day. In the past, missing a day led to missing two days etc. Yet, this training plan was way to rigid and sucked all the fun out of running. I was constantly putting pressure on myself to meet short-term goals. I forced myself to run when it was raining or when I had mild injuries and my body was telling me to slow down. I became so focused on pace and times that my running buddies didn’t enjoy running with me so much. On race day, the weather was rainy / windy and I finished 20min slower than my goal time and failed to qualify. I beat myself up for a while and had no desire to run again. A month later, I realized all the underlying juice and passion was sucked out. What I really wanted was to get healthy, run solo and with friends. So I totally changed my approach. I would only run 4 days a week to allow flexibility. When the weather was bad or I had aches and pains, I could go to the gym and lift or swim. I started cycling. I met new oeople and started doing triathlons. I focused more on experience than times. I started trail running and listened to spiritual speakers, like Adyashanti, while I ran. So having some structure, goals and discipline is important. Yet it’s the underlying passion that is the fuel juice. Create a plan that nurtures that passion or life will become bland and going through the motions. The journey and destination go hand in hand. Focusing too much on the destination will leave a person missing out in the beautiful journey. And sometimes the true destination is not what we had imagined.

@Arcangelo It’s not so much the outer expression, it’s more about the underlying motivation. Blue traits include rules/order, discipline and appeal to an aithority. A family is an appealing environment to express these traits. The father can express his authoritarian values and enforce rules/order for the family to follow. Just dating someone with no kids, wouldn’t offer the same opportunity. It still could be expressed through other avenues such as politics or law. Yet, I think someone blue centered would generally be oriented toward creating and maintaining a particular family structure.

All you need is in this thread. It’s how I got started.