Forestluv

Just a couple thoughts. I think most households are a mixture of colors, yet may be centered at a color. Also, with the internet, households aren’t insulated like they were in previous generations. In the U.S., the young generation is flooded with Orange level media online. Even if they grew up in a traditional blue home, there would be a strong internet influence.

I haven’t done salvia, yet noticed you wrote 5-meo-dmt in the thread title and dmt in the post. They are very different substances.

Anxiety and panic may arise prior to breakthrough if the mind struggles to hold onto control of reality. If that is broken through, there is no one left anymore to be afraid. Upon returning, the mind might be like “Holy fuck, what just happened? That just happened!! What just happened?”. For the next week or so, the mind and body may be disoriented with how it relates to reality as it integrates the experience. After 10 or so times, the mind and body acclimates and it smooths out quite a bit. I’m at the point I can take some prior to my meditation, have a god conscious meditation session for 30min and then continue on with my day. In the beginning, it can feel very dramatic to the mind and body because the contrast between a full dual sober state of consciousness and a godlike 5-meo state of consciousness. Yet ime, it smooths out as dual vs godlike starts to breaks down.

@Schahin As humans go deeper and deeper into spirituality and consciousness expansion, there may appear what some call “paranormal” abilities - yet once they appear, they don’t seem all that paranormal. You go deep enough and see the impossible happen and think “omg, that just happened. That just happened. . . “. It seems magical, yet also normal. Stuff like heightened sensitivity to energy and hyper intuition. Sometimes, people have glimpses of this and think it’s weird and feel uncomfortable talking to others - because they don’t want to look crazy or weird. On the other hand, sometimes I see people wanting to awaken and get super powers like Harry Potter stuff. It’s not really like that.

@Schahin What is this magic you speak of? What is it you want to do?

This assumes external pleasures and comfort can cure internal suffering due to attachment, identification and separation. That fantasy and seeking is energy that fuels the suffering mechanism. Imagine someone getting all the women and money they wanted and then realizing it doesn’t bring true happiness and love. And that it doesn’t cure the internal suffering of separation, attachment and identification. Successful people are not truly happy. That fantasy is a huge trap that perpetuates the suffering of wanting to escape what is Now (and there is no escape from Now).

I’ve done a 7 day at-home solo retreat. A few things I didn’t expect. . . I put so much emphasis thinking about the practices and how hard this would be and worried about how much I might suffer that it didn’t even occur to me that desires to treat my mind and body with love and kindness might arise. After three days of intensive practice of meditation and yoga, strong desires to cook and eat healthy meals arose. I don’t cook, so this was a surprise. I also started spending 1-2 hours a day doing self massage meditation. My body awareness skyrocketed and I was massaging out all the tensions in my body with various massage tools (balls and rollers) - better than a professional. I had no idea how out of tune I was with my body. Again, this was totally unplanned and unexpected. I had thought the week was supposed to be about putting myself through hell. There were difficult uncomfortable parts, yet also some loving parts. I got tensions and pains that built up from extended static sitting postures. I found extended stretches of yin yoga and self massage (in a meditate mindset) were very helpful.

No location I want to run, I want to hide I want to tear down the walls that hold me inside I wanna reach out and touch the flame Where the streets have no name Come back home to Now ♥️

Nondual sex is Hot ? ? ?

Below is a great demonstration of absolute infinity from Leo’s blog. Ime, simple direct pointers, inquiry and direct experience is most effective. I like to image an absolutely clear crystal. Any thing can arise in that clarity - including constructs about time and reoccurrences - and they disappear into the clarity of the crystal as well. https://www.actualized.org/insights/absolute-infinity-demo

How can an appearance of a facial expression ruin a whole walk? Did the facial expression itself ruin the walk or was it your mind’s interpretation and response to the facial expression?

Who/what is swallowing this pill? There is an assumption here that there is a thing “me” that has 0% control. With that assumption and belief, of course it would be distressing and depressing. Investigate and observe the creation of this story of “me”. Observe how thought impulses appear as thoughts and feelings. Memories and thoughts create a story within a construct of past, present and future that gives rise to a subjective experience that there is a “me” continuing through time. Simply observe the dynamics of this story play out in your mind when it arises. The sense of “me” is dynamic - constantly getting updated and changing. It is fascinating. Letting go and disindentification with that illusory “me” is extremely liberating for the mind and body. An enormous amount of pressure and burden is dissolved.

I don’t have any interest in datura.

@kieranperez I think it depends on the person. I’ve heard so many people resonate with different psychedelics. Personally, I would say my practices prior to the trip, my mindset heading into the trip and the dosage are more important than the substance. Except. . . in terms of insights, I don’t resonate well with strong visuals. CEVs are amazing and I love them, yet they are more entertaining than insightful to me. For big picture integral, creative thinking - a moderate dose of LSD. For introspection, warmth, love and empathy - mushrooms. For trans-human awakening - 5-meo. . . Yet that’s just my mind-body.

@Aldo If you find that helpful, great. If you are planning an actual trip in the future, I would be happy to share my experience if you find it helpful ?

Ultimately, there is an absence of meaning, yet when the mind returns from a nondual psychedelic state there is often a desire to contextualize and create meaning. The mind may think “whoa. . . what just happened?” and then it tries to condense and contextualize into an experience and concepts. It’s just what human minds do. If a turkey or frog tripped, they wouldn’t do this. I try to remain aware if the mind is over-contextualizing and forming attachments and identification with imagery, concepts and experience memories it is creating. Some people like to write things out. I prefer to just chill and stare. Perhaps go for a walk in nature and just Be. Stuff appears and reveals itself all on it’s own. Over the next week or so, I spend some quiet relaxed time - perhaps yoga or time in nature. If the old mind-body conditioning is returning, I will observe it with a new perspective. I will observe the mechanics of the egoic/personal thoughts and feeling dynamics. I may try and let go and allow the essence of the previous nondual experience arise and embody itself into my mind and body.

@Aldo I’m not going to speculate about what psychedelics are like because I’ve actually done them and no longer need or desire to speculate - because I now know from direct experience experience. All this speculation you are doing is fantasy. If you enjoy these types of daydreams, then have fun. Yet it aint it and it won’t bring you any closer to understanding the actuality of the direct experience. I you want the actual size experience, I would recommend starting off with a low to moderate dose of mushrooms or LSD in a comfortable setting. For me, strong visuals are distracting and make the integration process more difficult.

And how much experience do you have with 5-meo, DMT, LSD and Aya to call them “flashy and great” yet limited compared to a drug you have zero experience with? You can have over 100 trips and still be getting blown away by standard psychedelics. You have no idea how deep their power and potential go. Go find out yourself with actual direct experience, rather than going off into la-la land fantasizing what it would be like to hook-up with some drug you find exotic. It’s like you are sitting in the parking lot of the world’s greatest theme park, fantasizing what it would be like to ride a Triple Magnum Double Inverted Flip NonDual Realmed Monster rollercoaster on the planet Xopluxinot. . . For goodness sake, just go into the theme park and take a few actual rides.

There is a “hide” option users can use. It’s a beautiful expression of some wokeness. Is it possible to state “source unknown” and let it ride?

@seeking_brilliance Beautiful ♥️ ?

“Deep” or “Shallow” are human constructs. Ultimately, there is what IS. Yet, humans love to contextualize. It’s part of the human experience. So without further ado, let’s go for it. . . I think this is a beautiful video showing partial dissolution of the construct of a personal story and the construct of time. Notice how there is a different perspective of his person from a more transcendent state of consciousness. I don’t remember his exact words, yet it was something along the lines of “my gosh, I’ve been chasing attention and to be loved my whole life. I don’t need to do that. I’m whole in this moment right now. Just being”. This isn’t on the level of the intellect trying to figure shit out and convince itself that I’m good enough through positive affirmations. It is a deeper level of direct experience and knowing. Integrating and embodying this after the trip is key. As well, can you feel his relationship with Now? It is much much more intimate than “normal”. He is not trying to explain or figure out Now. He is having a direct experience Now and is in awe. Notice how he keeps saying “prescence”, “love”, “Now”, “Being”. He is having a deep connection and experience of presence. As well, I notice how he says “I love you” and other times simply”love”. My sense is he in a moderate nondual state in which separation between “I” and “you” is dissolving. Who is loving who here? What is loving what? There is simply the presence of Love and a quasi-sense of separation. To me, this seems like early realizations in transcending the ego and personal story. “Oh my gosh, I’m not this story I created. I am Now. Just Being””. This can be extremely transformative and liberating - if it is integrated and embodied. It is also possible that the ego/personality re-emerges and regains control of the narrative. After the trip, it can get re-contextualized as a profound experience in which one now questions their entire story and begins to let go and become free. Or it can get contextualized as a whacky trip, something like “ hey guys, I had this whacky trip where I was so connected to a flower I couldn’t tell the difference between me and the flower. That’s some crazy shit, huh?”. The ego mind can blow it off. At one perspective, this is incredibly deep. Now is infinite. . . From a human perspective of what is available, this video is the tip of the iceberg. It’s still mostly within the transition of transcending the ego/person. This can be extremely profound, awe inspiring and magical for a human mind -body to break free of it’s conditioning and experience this. It can be life transformative. . . Now is all there is, yet from a human perspective - there is much more to explore. The potential of exploration and growth is extremely expansive - way beyond what we imagine.

Any meaning is within infinity, so it’s not something one figures out. Direct experience is more impactful. In terms of imagination, it might help to image it as “Everything”. Show me a thing outside of Everything. You can’t. Leo does a nice job explaining here.

Contemplation can have benefits, yet getting too immersed in thought stories can be counter-productive. Sometimes it’s nice to give the thinking mind a break. Go for a walk, spend time in nature, do some yoga etc. Get back to what is happening Now.

Direct experience is Now. It is Free. It is infinite. The mind loves contextualization into an “experience” - which can have many forms. The mind may contemplate what it now calls “experience” and try to make sense of it. It may integrate that experience with other experiences. At the level of the human and human story, it may be beneficial to reflect and “grow” from constructs of experience. Yet the ego / personality structure can take ownership and create all sorts of stories and beliefs of these experience stories and get immersed and identified - and use it in egoic ways. To ask if direct experience can be trusted is from the perspective of the personality structure. Yet there is nothing to trust and no one to trust or distrust. It’s like asking “can Now be trusted”? At the level of the personality, the question is “can my personal interpretation of Now into an experience story be trusted”? “Can I trust the stories I am making up about reality?” I think it’s a good start to question the validly one’s own interpretation as this shines light on the personality dynamic, yet it’s still within the personality. The deeper step is to surrender the personal desire for control and be Now.