Forestluv

As requested, the OP would like to stop. Keep in mind that inflaming and baiting others into arguments is a form of trolling.

Space vs not space is a dualism. My initial impression of the this thread you started was that you were genuine and open regarding your question into nonduality. Yet it appears you are oriented toward arguing and defending a pre-conceived set of beliefs.

There is no “my” god. That would entail dualistic separation.

These are all constructs. Your mind won’t expand if you are contracted within constructs. You haven’t broken through with direct experience yet. It’s not something I can explain to you. If you want it, do the practices.

“It” isn’t a thing. We may use the word “It” as a pointer, yet all words are inherently dualistic and aint “It”, including the word / concept “It”. Yet as humans, we communicate through language. I find it helpful to relax the mind and not get attached to the words, the words are only pointers.

@ColdFacts One word is too many, a trillion words not enough.

You are still making constructs of existence vs. nonexistence. “It” is prior to intellect, constructs and images. All those thought constructs are fine and dandy. That’s what human minds do, including my mind. Yet to go prior to that, one needs to surrender all. This is why direct experience of the absolute is so crucial. If you like a sense of grounding, the images of quantum mechanics of superposition and position may be helpful. As well, Leo’s video on Actuality.

All images and concepts of it, existence, space, things, within etc is Everything. Any thing you imagine is Nothing / Everything. You can spend years of your life trying to escape (I spent 23 yrs trying), yet when you deconstruct all things, you are left with Nothing = Everything. There are no more priors. This is why the direct experience is crucial. A mind cannot see it through thoughts, concepts and images.

Any ideas of me, whatever, existence and space is Everything. Any thing a mind can image is Everything. There is nothing outside of Everything. Everything = Nothing. There is no escape. It is unpalatable to the ego, yet ih so liberating.

@ColdFacts Ime, simple images and concepts are best. I like the image of Everything. If there is One Everything, there is no thing. You cannot name a thing outside or separate from Everything. Thus Everything = no thing = Nothing.

It’s not intellectual. You eon’t figure it out with more analysis and constructs. It’s direct experience. Set the thought stories down for a bit and simply observe what is revealed.

1-1.5g is a light shroom trip - just enough for a magical boost, without things going cra-cra. I’d shroom at a music festival over drinking, hands down. I’d suggest checking out Nahm’s shroom tea guide thread - to reduce nausea

I would recommend “How to Think Like Leonardo Da Vinci” by Michael Gelb - a great read.

Ooohhh yea. . .exploration into uncharted lands. So beautiful ♥️ ?

@apparentlynoself I find it helpful to engage in various spiritual practices. Over time, the categories of meditation and non-meditation begin to collapse. I find it helpful to have formal meditation sessions sitting on a cushion in a quiet setting to help ground and limit distractions. It’s more likely presence of being will reveal itself. Over time, that presence of being may reveal itself outside of my meditation room. I may be sitting in mature and realize that meditative presence - “holy smokes, I’m meditating”. The boundaries between meditation vs non/meditation break down. . . Yet I still find formal meditation sessions helpful. It’s easy or the ego to blow off practicing meditation by thinking “I’ll just meditate while I’m running or driving to work”. This can be an avoidance tactic for the ego. . . On the flip side, one’s meditation practice can also become an escape from regular life.

I would first look at how the mind and body has contextualized this as: sexual cravings are “impure” and no sexual cravings is “pure”. For me, this would set up inner turmoil and conflict. When sexual cravings arise, I would observe without criticism. Get curious. What thought stories arise with the body sensations? Perhaps a thought story about how I am “impure” and need to “purify” myself by getting rid of these feelings? . . Deconstruct it and let it go. I know it’s much harder to do in the moment, yet ime repression just reinforces inner turmoil. On a more practical note, I find exercise such as cycling and running to be helpful.

@vibrate For me, actual physical sexual contact would be too much. One exercise I did with a partner was to sit in a meditation posture facing each other. Get grounded. Then we might put our hands on each other’s legs, perhaps inner thighs. A bit of sexual energy may arise. If it starts to overflow and the mind-body gets into “screw this exercise, let’s get it on” mode, then I pull back. Just a bit of sexual energy and observe it. That energy can overlap and merge with energies of strength, creativity, desire, humor, attention and so on. Then the mind-body may become groundless and not sure how to categorize sexual energy. Ime, just a little sexual energy is best. The mind-body is conditioned to amplify and pursue sexual energy. Don’t let it “go over the edge”. I found starting with a small amount we each could stay grounded and work with was best. . . A more advanced exercise is an interactive yoga with a partner and mixing in a bit of sexual energy with other energies. Like different paint colors. It’s super cool, yet it’s hard to find a partner into this.

Ultimately, there is a clearness - within that clarity of nothing, any thing can appear and disappear. Observing creation (construction and deconstruction) without attachment and identification can be quite insightful.

@Enlightenment I’m not anti-materialism. I teach and research material within my career as a science teacher and researcher ?

Yea, that’s what it boils down to. I hadn’t thought of it like that.

I had thought the Salem witch trials was a bizarre case of irrational superstitious townsfolk. Yet now that I think about it, there were probably a small percentage of the population that had paranormal abilities. And it was probably harder to hide it back then. The townspeople may have sensed something odd about them and became scared of them. In a way, society is kinda doing a similar thing. Just a 21st century version. It makes it much harder to follow that path. Few teachers, various dangers, being marginalized and ostracized. Imagine if those with abilities were freely able to practice and train. Perhaps paranormals will one day be fighting for equal rights as a minority.

In terms awakening, a teacher can seem overly simple because the mind wants to think and conceptualize. It thinks this is a massive journey with lots of theory and skills to learn. So when one speaks simply of “Now”, “This is it”. “It’s Nothing / Everything”, “Presence” “Just Be” - it is very unsatisfying to a mind that wants to think and theorize. I remember simple teachers seemed like lightweights to me. I would think “She keeps saying the same simple things. I already know all this”. Sometimes they would just sit and stare without saying anything! I was like “c’mon say something wise dude”. Yet I was perceiving it from a position lacking direct experience. . . . Later, I revisited from a perspective of direct experience and was like “whoa. . . that’s it. That’s beautiful”.

Do you think some neurosis in spiritually attuned people are caused, in part, by developing an identity that they are abnormal and trying to be “normal”? (without being aware their “abnormality” is spiritual attunement). For these types of neuroses, awareness would be curative.

I understand your perspective. Thank you for sharing it with me, it is helpful in a certain context and there is an aspect of truth within it. If there is something I might be able to help with, please let me know. ♥️ ?

I’ve already pointed out this filter and that it is creating an illusory character called “serotoninluv” that is delusional and has fried his brain. That will allow your mind to dismiss anything I say - because it will be interpreted as being “woo woo”, “delusional”, “emotional”, “distorted”, “a joke” and other terms you have used. To expand, one must deconstruct this filter and dynamic. It takes work. It isn’t easy and involves a lot of discomfort. Yet the rewards are worth it. My sense is that your mind-body senses that there is something deeper here.