Forestluv

@possibilities One key for me is to have a dream journal near my bedside and set an intention to write down every dream. As well, to set an intention to remember the dreams as I fall asleep. I write down every fragment of dreams I remember and if I can’t remember I write about that too. This signals to the subconscious that conscious awareness of dreams is important.

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@possibilities Pre-trans fallacy.

@GenuinePerspectiveXC I didn’t say genetics did not play a role. First, if one constructs a test that is dependent on development, of course the correlation will strengthen with development. Second, the twins in that study were raised in similar environments. Of course their traits will have a positive correlation. Even the authors discuss this in the discussion section. Third, twin studies were cutting edge like 70 years ago ? . We have much more advanced technology to study this: such as micro arrays and genome-wide association screens. These would have much stronger statistical power than twin studies. In terms of twin studies, here is what a genetically-determined trait looks like: Huntington disease is a neurological disease which manifests in an individual in their 30s. It is a genetic trait, not influenced by environment. You could put one twin in a wonderful environment. And the other twin in an awful environment. They will both always heave Huntington disease. Other traits have a mixture of genetic and environmental (such as schizophrenia). For twin studies, the key is to put each twin in a DIFFERENT environment, not a similar environment. In this case, one twin would go to a wealthy, loving, nurturing home with a healthy diet, community and school system. The other twin goes into poverty and undergoes, abuse, trauma, malnutrition, poor education, gangs in the community etc. Then do the test and compare how each twin did. This would be a key experiment in twin studies, yet it is difficult to get a large enough sample size with statistical power. It is unethical to design the experiment by intentionally placing a child into abusive poverty. And this rarely occurs naturally since adoption protocols screen against this.

@possibilities I use the term “you” because that is the level of this conversation. There is no “you” that has consciousness. This has not revealed itself yet.

Unless you used mini-doses, that would be an immense amount for the mind and body to handle and would require a type of fitness and expertise. It’s like asking if it’s safe to climb Mt. Everest.

At times, the frequency was difficult for the mind and body - other times it was a non-issue. Anxiety has arisen at times to various degrees.

@possibilities You are becoming conscious that there is something more. The thought stories are not helping this evolution.

This isn’t accurate. Even if we assume IQ tests are an objective measure of a measureable trait - it’s still inaccurate. There are two main inaccuracies; First, it assumes that environment influences a trait early in life such that genetically identical individuals in two different environments can show different manifestations of a complex trait. This part is true. The part that is false is saying that these same individuals will then show an identical manifestation of a complex trait in a purely genetic mechanism. Thats not how it works. Secondly, the statement fails to consider epigenetics. Even if we assume the nuclear and mitochondrial DNA sequences are identical through the life of the twins, the neurological gene expression profiles of the two twins will be different due to environmental impacts on epigenetics (even without environmental insults to the brain). There will of course be similarities between their gene expression profiles and structure of their neural networks, likely more similarities than non-twins. Yet there will be considerable differences such that it would be inaccurate and misleading to claim they would show an identical manifestation of a complex genetic trait. As a general comment: I’ve noticed a lot of users in this thread using terms like same/different/identical. These terms can have nuances, for example there can be degrees along continuums as well as relative meaning on context. Saying two things are “the same” can be true in one context and false in another context. A lack of of understanding of this will allow unconscious assumptions and miscommunication. Leo made a video on this titled “sameness vs difference”.

I didn’t say “can’t”, I said it makes it harder.

Yes indeed. Orange sees Yellow.

I’m watching from the 5D peanut gallery ?

Of course you can @pluto You’re good. Sometimes my mind has difficulty flipping from technical to creative.

For the spectators of this thread. . . notice the intersection of intelligence identity and gender identity in a few of the above posts. These two often overlap and are within a higher order personal identity. All of which the human psychological self will seek to define and protect as “me”. This identity is inherently illusory/groundless which creates a sense of insecurity and need to protect for it’s survival (survival of both the psychological self and the physical body). At a “trans-personal” level, there is dis-identified awareness of this psychological dynamic playing out.

You have created a person you refer to as “serotoninluv” that you assume is a character in a movie playing in your head. What you are not aware of is that I am actually a different character in a different movie with a different plot. Due to your assumption, your question is rather silly.

My car keys are always at the last place I put them.

“Intelligence” is one of the major human identities and a source of insecurity. I went to a psychology talk in which the speaker described insecurity of intelligence to be one of the strongest insecurities in males. He presented research suggesting that men with subconscious insecurities of their intelligence have higher tendencies to be domineering (particularly to women). The idea is that they are trying to compensate for a self-perceived deficiency and insecurity. It’s no surprise to me that many people get personally triggered and elicit strong emotional responses about intelligence. And grasp at metrics like IQ for a sense of grounding as a measure of intelligence and self worth. It’s a core feature of many people’s identity and self-perceived worth. Similar to how some people are strongly identified and/or insecure regarding gender.

Cut out the middle-man. You have access to what Jesus, Buddha and every sage had access to. Go prior to Jesus, Buddha etc. to their source. You are allowed to do that, because you are that source. You will not fully realize this if you put a person between you and the source, because separate yourself from the source - your True nature.

It’s harder to evolve upward when one’s basic needs aren't met. If a Being is consumed with trying to meet their basic needs it’s hard to evolve past green.

Ken Wilber’s take; https://integrallife.com/the-heart-of-christ-consciousness/

@Shiva I’d love it if more scientists tripped. It would make our science conferences so much more interesting ☺️

@Keyhole She did mention she has an etsy site for her work. I will ask her for the link. She’s actually leaving for a two week trip today, so I’m not sure how responsive she will be. One thing you might find interesting. She talked about the aliveness of plants/trees and how she tries to channel that into her paintings. I mentioned communicating with plants/trees and I kinda lost her. So I think she has more of a deep appreciation and sense of shared beingness in nature.

Yep. She got deeply involved in expression through the art of nature. She will go deep into nature for weeks and paint all day long. The way she described her conscious states sounded like psychedelic states. That’s how the topic came up. I was like “there is more than brush strokes going on here. This gal must be trippin”. So I asked her. . . When I said her descriptions sounded like psychedelic-induced states, she paused and reflected and said that her prior lsd use may have opened up doors of perception which now allows her access to dimensions she would otherwise access.

@anonymous I think of it as more expansive and aware. And yea, there is a form of power with that - yet it is not a self-seeking type of power. It is more of a wise, visionary type of power. A key element in transitioning to yellow is awareness of personal self dynamics. There is an energetic shift away from self-seeking needs. Yellow still has fundamental survival needs, yet they don’t perceive the world through a self-seeking lens. Tier1 pays attention and interprets it’s environment through a “me” lens. It is not interested in things not relevant to itself. Tier2 has a much wider lens and notices much more in their environment. They are much more curious about the world around them and love making interconnections and integrating components into holistic views. It’s where stuff gets fun. I’d much rather go camping with a yellow/turquoise friend than one at blue/orange.

@Annoynymous Imagine going to a football game with two friends. One friend is a super fan for The Wildcats, the other friend is a super fan of the opposing team, The Bears. Each friend is wearing team gear and painted their faces team colors. They argued the entire way to the football game. You are not a fan of either team. You just like the sport of football and enjoy watching a good game and talking about strategies. As the game is played, which of the three spectators will be most objective in judging wether the referees make fair calls?