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That’s great from a human-centric perspective. Now I get to eat meat gult-free. Yet what about from the perspective of sentient beings to whom I am contributing harm? If I continue to eat meat guilt-free - that’s great for me - yet how would this reduce the amount of suffering I am contributing to?
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Forestluv replied to WonderSeeker's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@WonderSeeker I practice as a scientist of biology and have found psychedelics helpful at lowish doses around 15-50ug. It’s awesome for creativity, integration, connecting dots and big picture - stage yellow stuff. Its not so good at focused analysis of detailed data, ime. And Kary Mullis conceived of the revolutionary technique of PCR while tripping. He also conceived of being abducted by aliens, so it goes both ways. For years, people in Silicon valley have been microdosing for performance enhancing creativity. Its only a matter of time until scientists do as well. Yet scientists will lag behind because most consider psychedelics to be “hallucinations” and not real. -
From a framework that it is unethical to cause suffering to sentient beings, it is hard to justify eating meat - especially factory farming. There were times I was in in the sangha chanting with my fellow Buddhists about saving all sentient beings from suffering. And then they would serve meat dishes for lunch. It seemed like such a disconnect. Yet self-centered human desires go deep. . . . Peter Singer did a lot of good work in this area.
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@ethanb121 I’ve had many bouts of ocd harm anxiety, including the examples you listed. My last episode was over two years ago. One thing I learned is that isolation caused further immersion into the ocd and anxiety, yet I was also reluctant to speak with others in fear they would see me as a monster or that they would tell me I’m just making it up. . . . It was helpful to speak about it with someone that was nonjudgmental and understood what I was going through. Letting it out to another that is nonjudgemental and loving can help reduce the power of the unwelcomed thoughts. If you would like to chat via Skype, feel free to send me a PM.
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Forestluv replied to Annoynymous's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
A beautiful ad that captures human experience. Bernie is a special politician that cares more about helping people than playing politics. -
Forestluv replied to Identity's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Identity Your post brings to mind the idea of choice. . . Imagine a person is offered a pill that would allow awakening. The person gets nervous and resists. The person then goes back and forth wether to take the pill or not. Finally, the person chooses to surrender and take the pill. Was there a choice to surrender and take the pill? Or was it all just happenings?. . . Is choice a thought story in the mind? . . Or is there a chooser? If yes, how much of this chooser is the external world and how much is the internal world? -
Forestluv replied to RendHeaven's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Multiple personalities is intriguing to me. There are some good documentaries. We all have multiple personalities along a spectrum, yet most of us aren’t aware of it. Once a meta awareness to the personality structure appears, the mechanisms can be observed. Yet this transcendence is a form of “ego death”, even though the personality doesn’t die - transcendence can feel like death. There is a strong survival instinct for the continuation of Immersion, identification and attachment to the personality as “me” continuing through time. The mind is amazingly good at assembling self-referential thoughts into a “me” that is continuous through time. At a physical level, this is the function of the brain’s default mode network. This allows the human to make sense of its reality and function/survive within that reality. Questioning the illusion of a singular personality can lead to an existential crisis, feelings of insanity, anxiety and panic - which I’ve had more of my share of. Yet with meta awareness of personality, things get very interesting. . . Each of our minds have many appearances of self-referencing that goes under one category of “me”. We might be indecisive about a decision and have conflicting thoughts about what to do. We often have debates and arguments for n our own minds causing inner turmoil - similar to debates with “other” people. There are also “other people” in the mind, yet we don’t categorize it like this. A person would say “*I’ve* been debating what to do”, not “three personalities in my mind have been debating what to do”. We could easily categorize like this. Yet there is pressure not to do so. We are conditioned to group all self referentIal thoughts and feelings into one “me”. This allows easier functioning in society in some respect and allows one to be perceived as “normal” by their peers. Yet its harder to function in other respects. Trying to maintain a single illusory “me” through time causes an immense amount of pressure, stress and turmoil on the mind and body. -
I would say it depends on who decides what is “more legit”. There are a few neuroscientists researching psychedelics that understand psychedelics from a certain perspective, yet they have never tried them. I would say their opinions are legit and have value within that context. Yet, would they make a good trip sitter? Perhaps not. . . As well, I know psychologists that are interested in utilizing psychedelic therapy, yet have concerns. Even though they haven’t tripped, I think their opinions have value and should be integrated into the conversation about psychedelic therapy. . . . As well, Ram Dass tripped many times and later spoke of psychedelic traps, such as chasing experiences and escape. This is certainly one dynamic with psychedelics that I think has value at the personal level. Can a being can trip once and be exposed to expansive, extraordinary revelations worth multiple lifetimes - I would say yes. Ime, these spaces are beyond my finite mind and I would consider psychedelics to be a much more expansive teacher than I. For example, I can easily imagine someone tripping once and learning more in a way that I couldn’t teach in an entire lifetime. My question would be more about how much can be “captured”, integrated and embodied by the being. Ime, the “ISness” of a trip is way beyond my mind’s ability to capture it all. The mind often wants to contextualize it into an “experience” and make sense of it. So, the question for me is not so much wether multiple lifetimes worth of “ISness” can be revealed, it is more about how is it contextualized. Ime, I tripped twice when I was 21y.o. Then I was sober and practiced meditation for 20+ years, with zero substances. I think this provided a deep, sturdy foundation. My next trip wasn’t until I was 45 y.o. . . . 24 years of sober meditation, personal development and growth. This trip was very very different than from when I was 21y.o, and it had a very different impact on the mind and body. For a couple days, I was dumbfounded - I couldn’t put it into words - even the term “I” no longer made sense. Yet underlying this, there was an understanding of egoic structure that had eluded me for 24 years of meditation, Buddhist sanghas, darma talks and retreats. This understanding has not wavered since the trip five years ago. So yes, Ime a person can trip once and have an understanding of psychedelics. Yet how a trip is contextualized is related to the person - the person’s filters, karma, prior conditioning etc. I see lots of trip reports from newbies that seem to be contextualized in a whacky and immature way. Regarding Sadhguru, I don’t get the sense he has a good understanding of psychedelics. It’s not so much about the number of trips, it’s more about how he contextualizes them. In the video above, a woman asked about microdosing in the context of clarity and performance. Sadhguru goes into a dialog about the desire to enhance through drugs, legalization of drugs, he mixes together psychedelics with caffeine, cocaine and marijuana in the context that these are unnatural chemicals that cause cloudiness, an escape from what is here and now, and a work productivity boost. And drug dependency. . . . These are certainly dynamics with chemicals, yet this is only one dynamic - the dynamic that is aligned with his lifetime of meditation and teachings. To me, he is contextualizing chemicals together through his filter. I’m not saying this is wrong. It is limited. He doesn’t seem aware of other distinctions and nuances - and doesn’t understand other components of psychedelics. From other perspectives, psychedelics open doors to creativity and insight. And they are just as “now” as being sober. Chemicals like alcohol cause cloudiness away from here and now. Psychedelics can cause hyper-awareness to here and now. . . As well, there are many different relationships with psychedelics. For many, psychedelics are not a blissful escape from an uncomfortable now. Many people feel trepidation before their next trip. It is the opposite of wanting to escape. Yet this doesn’t mean that I think people who haven’t done psychedelics, or have only tripped a couple times, don’t have valid views on psychedelics. I think various views have value in different contexts. For example, suppose someone had their first trip and was working with a psychologist who had recently tripped her first time. They may resonate and connect together in trying to make sense of the trip. I may come in and forget what it’s like trying to acclimate from a first trip. In this context, my views could be counter-productive.
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Forestluv replied to Monde's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Heehee, there’s that too. ? -
Forestluv replied to Monde's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The statement “I am God” will be interpreted as a self claiming it is god by 99.999% of people. In this self-centered context, the statement is delusional. I’ve found it help to provide context such as “I am God. You are God. We are all God. Yet some beings are unaware of this”. This sets a very different context than simply claiming “I am God”. Another approach is to show, not tell. -
Forestluv replied to Annoynymous's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
A few more: For: The cable news media wants a horse race for ratings. They favor Biden, yet want Bernie in it for a while longer and will have some fair/positive coverage of Bernie. . . Also, Biden has dementia and it isn’t easy for him and others to hide it. Against: Bernie claims the establishment is an existential threat, yet he keeps praising the establishment (Joe is a good guy, a good friend). . . . The “anti-women” image of Bernie and his supporters is sticking - women’s groups that supported Warren are asking Warren not to endorse Bernie. My sense is that Warren will remain on the sidelines until there is a presumptive nominee. I find this disappointing. There are much higher stakes here than some insensitive internet posters. Another 4 years of Trump is on a whole mother level than some rude posts online. Yet unfortunately, people hyper-personalize these things, get personally offended and vote against their greater interest. -
Forestluv replied to actualizing25's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Similar for me and those I’ve tripped with - it’s generally a humbling experience to the ego. One that dissolves the ego, rather than empower it. -
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Forestluv replied to Beginner Mind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Beginner Mind Those glimpses of causeless joy and true nature are wonderful. ? -
Forestluv replied to Beginner Mind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@zeroISinfinity The Cosmic Joke -
Forestluv replied to Beginner Mind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@zeroISinfinity This is it, baby! -
Forestluv replied to Annoynymous's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Annoynymous Bernie’s kind words for Warren may not mean a pact. From a political position, of corse Bernie will praise Warren - it helps that progressive movement and attracts her supporters. If Warren wants to make a difference, she needs to endorse Bernie at his Michigan rally this Friday or Sunday. Michigan is an important midwest swing state. If Biden wins Michigan it may be the end of the Bern. -
Forestluv replied to Mongu9719's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Those are images and thoughts of Jesus, Buddha etc. Any image or thought isn't “it”. Its more radical than that. -
Forestluv replied to Beginner Mind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What I wrote about unconditional happiness is very radical. It is not dependent on any conditions. It is a happiness of what is happening now, regardless of what is happening. “Well” and “not well” are relative add-ons. (Yet are very important relative to the human). Well or not well is irrelevant in this context. I’m not talking about the happiness of a silver lining during times of pain, anxiety and distress. I’m saying the pain, anxiety and distress itself is happiness since unconditional happiness has zero conditions. Unhappiness is also Happiness. A relative happiness is quite different and what 99.99999% of people mean when they say “happiness”. If unconditional happiness is the goal of the search, don’t waste time seeking happy feelings. That’s the easy part. Seek the unconditional happiness of Now - even while experiencing unhappy feelings like pain and anxiety - such that the pain and anxiety itself is happiness. The happiness of whatever is happening now. That is a deep break through. And it is always freely available, because it is always present Now. -
Forestluv replied to Beginner Mind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I’m not sure if you are using the term happiness in a relative or absolute context. How would perma-happy look to you?. . . If someone was volunteering to help starving children and felt a sense of empathy and sorrow, does that mean they lost their awakening in that moment because they aren’t experiencing happiness? What if they shed a tear? Does this non-happy state disqualify one from awakened? If so, this would place a happiness condition on awakened. Do awakened beings no longer cry? Or, could there be an unconditional happiness? A happiness that is always present - regardless of wether the human is experincing joy, fear, sorrow, love etc.? Imagine a happiness with whatever is happening right now. No strings attached. -
Forestluv replied to Beginner Mind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Beginner Mind If we add on “happiness” onto awakening, it becomes conditional and restricted. There is nothing wrong with an abiding state of happiness, yet having the condition of happiness is a limitation. Happiness-related truths would be included in awakening and non-happiness related truths would be excluded as awakening. This hinders the realization of unconditional, absolute awakening. -
Forestluv replied to Mongu9719's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Aspects will not make logical sense. The desire to have everything make sense in thought constructs is a contraction. These thought constructs can have practical value for the human and person, yet it is also a limitation if one restricts themself within that contraction. One thing I try to be aware of is the nature of my resistance. If someone told me I would awaken by drinking 4 Pumpkin Spice Lattes at Starbucks and then singing Taylor Swift’s “The Man” while urinating in the parking lot. . . there would be an intuitive sense that this was nonsense. I would probably start laughing. I certainly wouldn’t spend any time debating this silly method of awakening. Yet if I was with a Reiki Master that told me releasing energetic blocks could help release my chronic headaches, it is a very different dynamic. My mind may resist and think “That Reiki stuff is a bunch of woo-woo nonsense. There is no scientific proof for it”. Yet, I may get a sense that there is “something here” I don’t know about. This is a very different dynamic. I could dismiss it or ague against it, or I could get curious an explore. These are very different orientations. . . . To add in another layer, if I got the sense that trying Reiki would change or dissolve my sense of self - that throws a cog in the wheel. Now, all sorts of self-protective mechanisms will arise. Sometimes, it’s best for me to work through that resistance to grow and expand. As well, there are times in which there is an intuitive sense of “No, not now”. Or “This just isn’t right”. For example, one meditation teacher encouraged me to have extended sitting sessions and sit through the pain. Sitting through the pain would somehow help me transcend attachment/identification to the body and allow me to awaken. Sitting through the pain started harming my body and the only thing I was more awake to was the pain and harm to my body. There came a point, in which it just didn’t feel right. I then transitioned to another teacher with a different approach, yet the first teacher still had a lot I learned from. Rather than seeing this as an “either / or” path, you can see this as an integrative path. You don’t need to accept 100% of everything Leo says and you don’t need to reject 100% of what Leo says. Trust your resonance. Perhaps have several different teachers you resonate with. I listen to several different speakers that have different approaches and I resonate with each of them differently. If the stuff about 5-Meo isn’t resonating with you, put it aside. Perhaps other teachings from Leo will resonate. As well, connect with other spiritual beings you resonate with. I know spiritual beings involved in Yoga, Reiki, nonduality, meditation, nature etc. -
Of course meditation has benefits in lessening anger issues.
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This video brings me to the space of my 24 day 5-meo solo retreat. ? Best wishes on your solo retreat Leo.
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Forestluv replied to Annoynymous's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Trump did get impeached. He didn’t get convicted. Yet no one thought Trump would get convicted because it would require a 2/3 majority in a republican-led senate.