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Yes, I understand that. I said slave traders are far down on my list on who to honor in public parks. There are many people that made higher contributions to our country. I said nothing about leaving it out of history classes. In fact, I would support including lessons of slavery and the history of black suppression in classrooms. As well, in American classrooms I would support giving honest history classes of how white Europeans severely mistreated indigenous people, rather than the nonsense that they were altruistic explorers that shared Pow Wows, meals and gifts with American Indians <= the garbage I was taught as a kid. History classes are very different than who we honor in public parks. Don’t conflate the two. Also, you have a habit of downgrading. I’m talking about people whose life was about trafficking slaves and fought to perpetuate slavery. We are not talking about people that made good contributions to society and just happened to own a slave, like most people at the time. Don’t launder the acts of men that trafficked slaves and fought to continue slavery.

There are many people that have made breakthroughs and contributions that we can honor. I would put slave traders far down on the list.

@trenton Why not put them in museums like other works of art? The problem with having them as public displays is that these are shared public spaces. My local park is shared by both white and black people. I don’t think it’s appropriate to have a statue glorifying a slave trader no more than I think it would be having a stature glorying a pedophile.

Nice work. This is the type of thing that can “flip a switch” for some people. Inspiring and motivational to let go of distractions and go deeper into personal development and spirituality.

I didn’t listen to the whole 3.5 hrs, yet from what I listened to, he seems mostly high level, healthy orange. I would say this is a good example of healthy Orange and I would love to see more of this in the U.S. For example, he values accountability and authenticity for CEO’s. He is pretty much saying, go ahead and make as much as you can, you deserve it - yet do it in a way that has integrity. Be honest, transparent, hold yourself to a high standard, take personal responsibility and enforce accountability for CEO misdeeds. I would consider this very healthy orange, it is the anti-thesis of toxic, corrupt orange. . . He may have had some Yellow sprinklings of integration and systems in there, yet imo he is centered in Orange. This is evident when he talks about how CEOs like Jeff Bezos deserves all the money he makes because he steers his company in the right direction 10% more often than others. This is a limited orange-level view. In determining whether Jeff Bezos *deserves* all the money he makes, a yellow-level person would not be limited to wether Bezos makes the “right decisions” in terms of company profit. A yellow level mind would see the bigger picture and be able to see and integrate things like how CEOs like Bezos are earning much of their money not just through “right decisions”, yet by also standing on the backs of others and taking advantage of social and political systems. Stuff that Anand Giridharadas speak about.

Correct. In the U.S. electoral college system, the popular vote does not decide the election. Each state is given a number of points, based on population size. However, it is not accurately proportional to population size. A person who lives in Wyoming as about 3X the voting power of a person living in California. This is a bias toward less populated states that traditionally vote Republican. The only candidates that have lost the popular vote and won the election are republicans. Hilary Clinton, won the popular vote by 2%, which is significant by U.S. standards. Yet Trump won the electoral college by a wide margin. It is unlikely that the electoral college will change soon. To do so would require 2/3 support, which is virtually impossible to get. Republicans will not vote for it because they benefit under the current system. A back door to this is a movement by blue (democratic states) in which they will give their electoral points to whoever wins the popular vote. If enough states agree to this to push over 270 points, the winner of the popular vote will win the election. However, this only has support from the most populous blue states that are disproportionately getting screwed over (like California). Swing states, like Michigan, are reluctant to join in because they get a lot of attention for being a swing state. Red states like South Carolina strongly oppose this movement since they benefit from the current electoral college. They are primarily republican states and the current system allows republicans to lose the popular vote and still win the presidency. Joe Biden will probably need to win the popular vote by 2% or more to win. Regarding caring about sexual accusations: There are a subset of people that do care. For example, progressive democrats were very upset with Biden’s sexual assault allegation and were very upset about how neoliberal democrats did not take it seriously and were hypocrites. Neoliberal democrats strongly condemned Kavanaugh and took Blasey-Ford’s side (the accuser). Yet they then took Biden’s side and dismissed his accuser (even though Biden’s accuser had more evidence). In my view, this is due to identity politics. It’s a similar situation with University sports. If a player on an opposing team is accused of raping a student, opposing fans will be outraged and talk about how corrupt and immoral the other school is. Yet when a player is accused of rape on their team, the fans start making all sorts of excuses. They are identified as being on that team. It takes a high level of maturity to have an objective meta view. In terms of how one could vote for a sexual predator, I would say there are two factors. One is degree. In terms of degree, Trump has like 20 credible accusers of sexual assault, Biden has one. Thus, Trump could be considered a worse sexual predator than Trump. Another concern is the degradation of election integrity. If my two options are between two sexual predators, I want to live in a democracy that the people get to decide which sexual predator gets elected. Yes, that is falling to a very low standard, yet there is a huge difference between the public deciding which sexual predator wins vs. authoritarians deciding which sexual predator wins.

The movie Samsara has some amazing beauty. It’s all visual and auditory. No words.

@WaveInTheOcean Let Go to Flow ❤️ ?

@billiesimon At times, I also like to be open to the story creating itself, without me steering it. Or, a combination. . . For example, the other day I was hiking in nature and a whole new relationship with reality arose. It was like entering a new dreamscape of wonder. Like I was a child entering the land of Narnia. If I tried to control and steer it, I would lose it. Yet if I disengaged from it, I would also lose it. It was more like I participated within it. One thing I love to do is spontaneously create stories and games with my young nieces. There is a wonderful sense of flow as we make stuff up as we go along. Sometimes it’s stuff that makes no sense, yet it makes sense to us and we laugh. We “get it”. . . Then their mother or father will enter and say “What are you doing? Can I play? How does this work?”. The dynamics totally change. They are doing their best, yet they ruin it because they are conditioned adults. . . One time my nieces wondered if I count an “adult” or a “kid”. They went back and forth for a while. I found it amusing. . . .One time my sister told me she wished she could play with her girls like I can, yet she is unable to.

@Aquarius There are protections against pregnancy that are about 99.9% effective. But yea, the only 100% effective protection would be to not engage in sexual activity. Yet even with that, there is a 0.0000001% chance a woman would find a sneaky way to get some of my sperm without me knowing and insert it into her vagina.

Great question. You get to write a story about how to build a complete new story out of a blank book. ? One story could be that once we realize it’s just a story, fragments of the story re-appear - yet they no longer have the same power since we are now aware they are story fragments. We can much more easily let them go. Many people tell stories about how we can “purify” out old conditioned stories. As well, observe orientation. Perhaps transforming the dreamscape is a process. Are we oriented toward maintaining the old conditioned dreamscape that others portrayed upon us? Are we oriented toward transforming the dreamscape into a new creation that is an expression of our true nature?

Imagine I give you the book “Moby Dick” and a book with blank pages. Which would offer you greater potential to express creativity and imagination?

Ram Dass only explored a limited area of psychedelics. He got to know that area well, yet he did not have broad understanding and embodiment of psychedelics.

Very nice. This opens up expansive areas to explore creative, imaginative potential.

That is a key, yet there are many degrees, nuances and related skills. Imagine asking “What’s it like to be a transgender person?”. Imagination is a key, yet there is a lot more to it. For example, what if someone was conditioned to believe that there is no such thing as being transgender? They believe that the person just makes it up for attention. This would be a major block. . . What if we were raised to believe that being transgender is deviant, immoral and disgusting? This would also be a block. It’s helpful to clear away this type of stuff, this allows space. Let’s say we cleared all of those blocks away. Curiosity is also super important. We’ve got to be super curious. Suppose we are exploring our sexuality and just got curious what it would be like to feel like being a woman in a man’s body. This opens the door. Then there are different layers and degrees of imagination. We could wonder what’s it like, yet feeling and experiencing it is much deeper. And yes, we would need to let go of the identity of being a heterosexual male. . . Imagine you meet a gal who is into kinky sex into role playing. She is super hot and she wants you to play a transgender person. A female in a male body. How well do you think you could role play it? Could you role play it so well, that you forgot you were a cis male and became so immersed in the role it actually felt real? This is an ability some people have. I’ve actually role played and most people suck at it. It’s obvious they are pretending and acting. . . One thing that can help is to go deep with someone who is actually that person. For example, let’s say we want to know what it’s like to be schizophrenic and we have a schizophrenic friend that is comfortable openly talking about it. . . Now imagine you will be playing a schizophrenic in a movie and you really need to know what this is like. This would change the dynamics of the conversation. Now we are asking questions like “What is it like? Is it like this? I had this type of experience on a psychedelic, it that kinda how it’s like”? These types of exercises are great for developing empathy. Perhaps we go so deep into what it’s like to have schizophrenia that we dream we are. Or maybe one day we hear voices and freak out and think “Oh my god, this is what my friend was talking about. This is what it’s like”. This will give a greater sense of empathy to relate to people with schizophrenia. This empathy is distinct from compassion or sympathy. Empaths generally have good imagination skills, yet they can also sense in a way that isn’t traditionally considered imagination. There is also an extra sensory perception. . . For example, do you imagine hearing? To me, it would be odd to say “I imagine what I’m hearing”. In a way, it’s imagination, yet it’s awkward to say it that way. It’s more like my hearing just happens. It’s just a sensory ability I have. Similarly, empaths can have an extra sensory perception, to various degrees. For example, my baseline empathic ability is higher than the general population, yet relatively low for an empath. However, sometimes it gets turned on. It would be like being able to hear to so well, yet sometimes hearing gets activated and you can hear things very well. And one can go beyond what they thought was possible. One can become a rabbit or tree and get a sense of what its like.

Observe how a mind communicates with itself. We’ve all had some form of internal conversation with ourself. Even something simple like what to have for dinner. I may have a conversation like “I’m kinda in the mode for Indian food tonight, yet I should probably eat the Lasagna leftovers from last night. I wonder how long the leftovers would be good for. I remember last year bringing home lasagna from the Luigi’s Italian Restaurant. It stayed good for about a week”. . . We have conversations in our mind like this all the time, yet we process and relate to it as one person. We could process it and relate to it as being three different people, yet this is not practical to function in life and we wouldn’t want to enter the zone of “multiple personalities”. Similarly, when you have a conversation with someone else, you process it and relate to it as I conversation with “me” and ”him”. It’s possible to process it and relate with it as a conversation withIn One entity, just as you process internal conversations as happening within One you. . . However, when communicating with another, most humans would feel very uncomfortable entering this area. At first, it would feel like you are losing your mind. As well, most humans don’t want other people to think that they are crazy.

I love these questions because it digs down. . . This depends on what is identified as being “you”. Is “you” the dreamer? Is “you” the dream? Is “you” the dream character? Is “you” the expansive space in which the dream arises? . . . These all start to break down. . . My sense is that “you” is pointing to the body-mind in which the dream is occurring. Imagine a dream with a dream character we shall call Paul. To identify Paul and have an experience as Paul, Paul needs to forget that he is within a dream. If there is awareness that Everything in the dream is One dream occurring in the higher consciousness of “me” then there cannot be identification as Paul. The cafe, Paul, his gf, the taxi etc. all all the same dream. To identify as Paul, there must be forgetting that it is all One dream. Paul cannot awaken to dreamer consciousness when he is identified as Paul. There is a “higher” consciousness that is revealed and is like “Whoa, I’m having a dream that I am some dude named Paul in New York”. This would be a major awakening. A similar dynamic occurs in waking life. There is your waking life character, let’s call him “AtheisticNonduality”. To identify as AtheisticNonduality and have an experience of AtheisticNonduality, we must forget that the character AtheisticNonduality is within One waking dream. Just like to identify as Paul, we had to forget the Paul is within One dream. As well, within the character AtheisticNonduality cannot awaken to the higher consciousness when he is identified as AtheisticNonduality. . . Imagine Paul asking this question: “Aren't egos besides yours still perceiving things when your perception of them changes?”. Paul sees Sally, Juan and Fred in the dream and asks “Aren’t those other egos still perceiving when my perception of them changes?”. Notice how important the term “My” becomes. Does “my perception” refer to Paul’s perception? From Paul’s perspective, Sally, Juan and Fred are different egos having their independent experiences. Yet from the perspective of the dreamer, Paul, Sally, Juan and Fred are all “Me”. If You realized You were dreaming, You could no longer trick Yourself in believing that Paul, Sally, Juan and Fred are different characters. The jigis up. In some ways, this opens up new avenues of creativity and exploration. In other ways, it ruins the fun. Similarly, there can be awakening that this “Waking life” is all One dream. When this is revealed, the Dreamer realizes that the character’s AtheisticNonduality, Serotoninluv, Leo Gura, Trump, LeBron James etc. are all Me. The jig is up. In some ways, this opens up new avenues of creativity and exploration. In other ways, it ruins the fun.

No, because ‘this’ is ‘prior’ to “trusting”. Trust is a dualistic construct you are creating. As soon as that “I” tries to take ownership as “I know”, *poof*. . . It ain’t It.

This is a super interesting area to me. As one develops through partial awakenings, do you think people tend to have initial glimpses of direct, non-localized, instant communication within certain resonance? For example, one person may get glimpses communicating with animals, another person gets glimpses of communicating with an imagined stranger and another with a dead friend. As well, it seems ime like in partially awakened stages, access is limited. There may be limited access to only communicate within a subset of Everything.

@Carl-Richard hehehe. . . To experience green to it’s fullest would take an infinity. It would be like experience Pi to it’s fullest. . . Here is a trick I’ve learned to leverage my limited experience. . . In terms of SD, transition into Tier2 involves dissolution/transcendence of the self. All the self identity, self stories, self memories etc. The mind first becomes aware of this “Omg!! It’s all just a personal story appearing Now!!!”. . . Yet appearances and patterns of personality keep appearing. . . What if we purified all that out such that there was not only and absence of attachment/identification to a personal story, there was an absence of a personal story. And absence of any appearance of “me”. In this emptiness, you could be any person. Why not? If the personal story is completely absent, how could you tell the difference between any personal stories? Any personal memories that appear are as good as any other personal memories that appear. . . This vastly expands the playing field. . . We all have a sense of this in dreams. As we fall asleep appearances of personal memories and personal identity can disappear. This vastly expands potential. There is no resistance. In a dream, I could become a person protesting in Washington DC, interacting with others protestors and Being it. I may see a protestor friend be targeted by a cop an become outraged. I may wake up in tears. There is a moment in which this can be “captured”, yet it is fleeting. There is a moment, I’m not sure what happened. I’m not sure who I am. And then the old program might kick in. “Oh it was just a dream. Crap, I overslept. I gotta get to work soon”. And *poof* it’s gone. . . Not only can we capture those dreams, we can learn to enter those spaces while awake. A few people have a gift for this. I am not one of those people. I’ve needed a boost with substances and practice with lucid dreaming. So, this can expand the playing field and allow experiences with far less work. For example, one day I entered this state and became a person that knew about dark spirits. Like a person that lives in a village in South America. It was totally obvious what energetic spirits are like and why people were afraid of being possessed by dark spirits, because I was experiencing it. I understood why people go to Shamans to exorcise dark spirits through chanting, incense etc. I understood what it’s like because I became that person like a dream character. This is not something “I” believe in. Yet that “I” was absent. This gave me a peak into this realm. And it saved me a lot of time and money. I didn’t have to travel to South America and live in a village to get a taste of it. Yet there are limitations as well. For example, I will not become a character that speaks Chinese fluently. There are certain limitations, yet the potential is much more expansive than most people are aware.

I am pointing to a “Getting” prior to “getting”. You look in limbo between knowing and Knowing as you grasp for knowing to get a sense of grounding. Rather than trying to know Knowing, allow Knowing to realize and Know Itself. Imagine looking in a mirror for the first time and realizing that you are looking at yourself. Imagine Remembering what you have forgotten. . .

@JayG84 I find it helpful to create categories of “knowing”. There is the knowing through facts, evidence etc. and there is a Knowing prior to knowing. For example, how to you know that now is now? How do you know that here is here? There is a knowing of “it just is” that comes prior to trying to figure things out, look for evidence, debate with others etc. . . How often do you ask neuroscientists to show you evidence that now is now and now is not yesterday? How often do you ask physicists to validate that you are here now and not on the moon? I would imagine never, because there is an inherent Knowing of Here and Now, prior to any concepts, figuring, questioning, evidence etc. All that stuff is second order (which has value), yet there is also first order Knowing that Knows Itself.

Have you ever entered a lucid dream state? I think that might shed some light. There is awareness of both the dream character and the dreamer. And there can be a subjective experience of “flipping” more toward one or the other. Yet these are distinctions of creation as the dreamer and dream character are the same.

I’m seeing: ”Peganum Harmala (Syrian Rue) Extract” in both freebase or HCL. Is one form optimal?

@Rasheed I would be mindful of orientation. If I’m oriented toward seeking joy as self-actualization, it gets tricky - because self-seeking dynamics can enter. For example, if I feel lonely and desire to feel joy with a woman to escape my feelings of inadequacy, it’s not a very good orientation. For example, she may text me several positive texts in a day and I may feel joy and think “I’m more joyful now than last week, I’m making self-actualization progress.”. Yet this is a surface level. There are deeper levels of ‘transcendent’ joy as expressed through our true nature. For example, imagine feeling fine as you are right now. You have everything you need in this moment. You are staring into your backyard and notice two dogs playing with each other. A sense of joy arises. The joy is so strong you want to express it. So you write a poem about the joy of being a playful dog. From this creative expression of joy, even more joy arises. I would consider this a more transcendent form of joy. It involves the “me”, yet is transcendent to ‘me’. If the self enters and says “Those are just two dogs playing, who cares? What’s in it for me?”. Then the joy is lost. As well, I would not limit myself to the one indicator of joy. It can be very easy to slip into an orientation of seeking self-centered good feelings. I would also explore other areas. For example, sometimes I sit in a forest and feel sad. I may appreciate the beauty of the forest and feel sad that everyone in the world cannot experience the beauty I am experiencing now. This sadness is not a self-centered sadness. It is a trans-self sadness that is an indicator of reaching transcendent spaces. Other indicators would be deep senses of appreciation and gratitude.