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@yangmilun Thanks for the long response. I appreciate your effort but I watched that video the day it came out. Basically watched all the videos posted in the last 2 years which is when they started talking about metaphysical topics rather than how to make a girl squirt and I’m still confused about many things. Still dont have this sense of relief. I’m still seeking something. Videos are good for increasing open mindedness but I’m still missing something. I’ve taken psychedelics and blasted my mind or whatever this experience is into nothingness but I still have a strong desire to help people and the planet because what the fuck else am I gonna do? Anything else is selfish from what I’ve seen. Maybe @Preetom can help with this one? Haha I don’t know. Do appreciate everyone’s help

@Preetom How do you utter anything without reason?

I understand if you don't want to go into detail about your family so no stress on replying Just wanted you know How you've gone with explaining what you do to your family? Do you even try explain it? What sort of responses do you get from your family when you talk about the insights you've had? I've had great conversations with my Mum. Mostly topics like ideology, spiral dynamics, ego, devil, paradigms. The conceptual based ones. I don't bother with non-duality. My Dad is completely closed off to everything. I managed to get my Grandpa to read the spiral dynamics book! Which he thought was pretty interesting.

I've actually found the most effective name/word/symbol is many of them. Call it God. Call it Absolute Truth, Infinity, The One, Pure Consciousness, Nothing. I like how Leo hasn't harped on just one. It's helped me realise that none of these names/words/symbols are the thing we are actually talking about. They're all just pointers. Had it been just God or just Pure Consciousness, I'd be more likely to hold it ideologically as a separate thing other than myself.

@nexusoflife There is also this chart which Leo shared on his blog around the time of the Spiral Dynamics Mini-Series. Just remember that the Spiral is Dynamic. So a chart like this has a date that it was estimated from. It's not 100% accurate and won't necessarily stay like that. But still very helpful

I used marijuana for about 2 years (I don't anymore) and found some benefits. I used to do self-inquiry or contemplation with a pen and paper while high. It mellowed me and relaxed my knee jerk rationality. Elevated my open-mindedness. Opened my heart a little. Deepened my conceptual understanding of the topics Leo talks about. But all this is nothing compared to Mushrooms, LSD or DMT. So although it was good at the time. It ended up being more of a distraction than everything else. If you try marijuana, mushrooms, LSD and DMT and still find marijuana to be the most effective then go for it. But in my experience marijuana is very surface level and the other psychedelics are much more effective for enlightenment.

If God is Nondual and God is everything, how come duality?

It's a click bait title to lure rationally minded people. "Smart people" is how the rationally minded people view themselves. So they click on the video expecting confirmation bias, but get their world view fucked with if they watch long enough. Namely Ken Wilber's Pre/Trans Fallacy. But also the whole video... Youtube is mostly Spiral Dynamics Orange as well, so helps to market the video and spread the wisdom. That's my take on the title anyway. That my not be Leo's actual intention for the title.

@ivankiss Just beautiful I've always had rhythm running through my body. Played drums for many years. Produced some of my own music too. Loved it. I need to get back into it. I stopped because I was trying to be someone else. Trying to make a hit. Trying to make whatever was popular at the time. Seems silly now when I look back. My best music was when I wasn't trying to make it a certain way. Just listening to my emotions and letting it come together. What are you called? I'll keep an eye out for your music

I actually cried listening to these songs. It felt like trauma was releasing from my body? It felt amazing. Is this the true power of music? Spiritual healing abilities? I'm shocked! Thank you for sharing @ivankiss

Are conspiracy theories just an ego distraction? Looking at Alex Jones for example. Alex Jones thinks that some higher power is controlling the system and it's his job to fight against it. But the evil controlling higher power that he believes is out there somewhere, is really just his ego! It's this twisted backwards mix up in his mind. Am I on the right track here?

@Amun

Hey Guys. I’ve been watching the Body awareness video and in the beginning of the video Leo talks about feeling for tension in the body. Especially muscle tension. But I just don’t know what he’s talking about. When I go inside my body to feel for tension I feel relaxed as fuck. I used to be a competitive cyclist. I know the feeling of tense muscles. I don’t feel anything like that anywhere in my body at the moment. These are the feelings I get when I sit in my chair and try feel for tension. - Heart Beat (Obviously) - Base Level Tingling (I can increase this sensation if I breathe rapidly) - Bowel Movement (Normal stuff. Nothing painful. Just like grumbling or whatever intermittently) - Gravity (Pressure between me and the chair and my feet on the ground) - Holding my head up straight. So the required neck muscles to do that. - Maybe some lower back pain if I sit in the chair for long enough. That’s it! Are any of these the tension Leo speaks of? What exactly are we talking about when we mean “tension”. Or am I so unconscious that I’m not even aware of proper tensions?

Not sure how this relates to tension in the body? But cool insight dude!

This one is a silly one. But it's an example!! haha

Timestamp: 56:22 Alex Jones “I’m with God right now” Headline: Alex Jones Squirms in interview when tough questions come his way about his recent ban from social media. Just on the back of Leo’s lastest Blog post about “The Idelogical Mind” and the conspiracy theorists. Mentioned Alex Jones in there so I followed up, just to see what he’s saying these days. (A hobby of mine is watching YouTube videos assessing their Spiral Dynamcis Stage Configuration) Found out Alex Jones has been banned across all the social media platforms (Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram) to name just a few. Just interesting watch Alex’s ego tick in this interview. Leo if you watch the Video, would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks Mate. Also can’t wait for the next Spiral Dynamics video! Spiral Dynamics is so important for mankind! - Said a Yellow person ?

Yeah geez. He lost grip on reality. Thanks for the updated video.

It’s almost as if Alex is mistaking Blue for Turquoise. Alex is Blue and thinks he’s Turquoise? Watch from 56:22. He talks about God.

I imagine it as bridging. Create bridging systems within societies to link memes. Like Orange to Green or Green to Yellow. By link I mean a system which influences people to move up the spiral. For example. I sense a large volume of people on YouTube, types of people that watch Joe Rogan, which are listening to multiple perspectives on Joe’s show. Plus the other Youtubers like Joe they are watching who share their opinions of the world online. This large volume of people are all tier 1. What a shift in society it would make if we created a YouTube channel or channels which bridge the gap from Tier 1 to Tier 2. But market it to them. Remember they are Orange/Green. So an example would be a reaction video. Talk in their language. Vision-Logician Reactes to Joe Rogan - Elon Musk. Then go into details about the stages Joe and Elon are in. Start making the Tier 2 perspective more accessible online.

What if we could organise a road map or a to do list for Mankind? Based on Spiral Dynamics and with the interest in moving Mankind up the Spiral. A group of people who’s jobs are to observe, analyse and create meme specific systems that aim to move that meme up the spiral? I say this because I’m so eager to apply Spiral Dynamics Principals and actually make a difference to people’s level of consciousness.

I’ve been doing some contemplation because of the contemplation video Leo recently realeased. I contemplated a few of the ones he suggested to start off with and I found after a while I’d end up in the same position with which question. I still didn’t ’have an answer but was asking the same question in the end each time. Who am I? It always boiled down to good or bad for survival so I’m left asking “Who am I?” Meanings, values, objects, anything. Literally any “Thing” there is. So I’m actually left with two questions. “Who am I?” and “What is anything?”

Lol yes!!

It’s not true because it’s a mind fuck. It’s just, truths can be a mind fuck...

Being it straight back to reality!

The Truth is obvious. You’re just stuck in a wrinkle of reality where you can’t see over the horizon. But how do we confirm what’s over the horizon so we know it’s all one? The horizon is an illusion. The horizon was created the minute the who perceiving the horizon believed himself to be a who. Why would he do that? Cause he wouldn’t existed if he didn’t. He wants it that way. Must be pretty stressful and tiring holding that illusion up? Yeah they do a heap of weird shit to maintain it. Looks exhausting! Yeah beats me...