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Explain what you call socialism vs capitalism. As i said before, nowhere in Marxs works you will find that a communism country can have an open (but regulated) market.

No one volunteers to be a wage-slave in the US, you just is because that's how Capitalism works. First of all, there is no such thing as "free market", everywhere you have regulations and burocracy as it should be. Second of all, in most inovations, the government does 99% of the work funding infraestruture, research etc. The "market" only surfs that wave and takes the credit. The government, even in Capitalist states does the heavy lifting. Knowing that, in a Communist state, the goverment will invest HEAVILY in advancing it's technology, inovating, trying new stuff. China is a really inovative country. If you look it up outside anti-china propaganda, you will be amazed. In fact, every communism experience is truly inovative because you have to CREATE something completely new, there is no "how-to". If the US learned something from China, the US would be the first second-tier country in the world in 50 years.

I am not familiar with this subject but i can say that China social engeering is very impressive, they are aware of the risks and will revert the decision as soon as they think it will benefit the country. Careful demonizing and underestimating China, you will look like a fool. Of course China has many serious issues, which country doesn't? 70 years ago China was the poorest (capitalist) country in the world with 1 Billion people, millions dying of hunger and life expectance of 35 years. The main question when deciding if a country is Capitalist or Communist (in this case, socialist) is: Who really rules there? In Capitalist states like the US is the rich and powerful, they have the political influence to decide everything and that's why you guys don't have free healthcare and a good set of workers laws. In Communist states (in fact, Socialist) like China, Cuba and the USSR is the WORKERS CLASS. Basically the super-rich cease to be super-rich and the workers take power and decides collectively everything. BUT there is no recipe for this, in each place this will be different. You ABSOLUTELY CAN have a "free market" to a point, you can have business owners, you can have "capitalistic goods", international trade, people do earn different salaries but if you get too rich (like a billionaire), the governement will be in your ass 24h. This old propaganda of communism being like an outdated low-tech poor country is just that: propaganda. That's why China is Socialist and you think it is Capitalist.

Do you know that hundred of millions fail to meet this "small standard"? Here in Brazil is at least 28 million (2021 data). Every street in each major city you will see half a dozen homeless people begging (chindren included) for food. Get out of your first world bubble, buddy. Good for China, nowhere in Marx works he stated that in order to be a communist state, you have to isolate yourself. That's a major flaw in what you guys (including Leo) call Communism, isn't actually communism, is just what you IMAGINE it to be. Also, usually is the west that isolates the communist country (like the US did with Cuba) and communist governments have to be extra careful due to constant attacks from outside and inside. Stalin suffered 22 assassination attempts and Fidel Castro 638. Compare that with any other modern state and you will understand if you have any amount of wisdom in you. Also: Where would the west be without China? There is no charity here. "The west" isn't helping poor Chine, it is a mutual benefit. The only reason China is China is because the West needs it, it is because of China's power and big market. You think you are free in the US? How many aren't wage slaves? Maybe 1%? How much is the cost for the population to the US mantain itself as the most powerful country today? (not for long) The problem is you guys don't use the same metric when you criticize communism experiences vs capitalism. Most critics directed to communism can be applied to capitalism.

I just told you China was the poorest country in the world 70 years ago, before the Revolution. 70 years. China was basically in the feudal age. Communism advanced China more in 70 then most countries in 700. China is way more technological then Brazil, for instance. Another fact to you that i said before in this thread: When the USSR was founded, most part of the territory was also in the feudal age. 50 years later, it was competing with the largest economy potency in the world. The USSR basically WON the space run in all aspects except putting a man on the moon first. Also the military was as powerful if not more powerful than the US. Also in 1935, the Moscow subway system was opened. In Brazil, we had one of those only 40 years later.

That's an oversimplification. China has technology, massive investiment in education and, like i said, plans decades ahead. They are already doing a transition as the article i posted above clearly stated (if you care to read and not just repeat the ignorant mainstream narrative about China). That's just dumb. Communism is exactly what makes China so successful. In a capitalist state, the CAPITAL is king. The bourguesie has the true power and will favor it's own short-term profit even if it means the breakdown of the whole country. In a communist state, the PEOPLE is king. Every decision is made envisioning what is best for the whole country, not just a few. This is a long-term winning strategy. Again, i will repeat for the third time on this thread: China was the POOREST country of the world in 1949. The life expectance of the chinese was 35 years and today it is 77 years. 1 billion population. If you don't grasp the significance of this, you are being stubborn or really dumb.

I am using numbers because that's what the capitalists that says that communism doesn't work care about. And yes, China is winning and growing in alarming rates for DECADES. China was the poorest country in 1949, during the revolution. Not true. They are actively ending poverty and improving everyday. They also PLAN decades ahead, and their prediction are usually very conservative, in reality, they tend to be even more impressive. Poverty is only a NEED in capitalist societies. https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/04/01/lifting-800-million-people-out-of-poverty-new-report-looks-at-lessons-from-china-s-experience

Soon Socialist China will be the biggest economy in the world, with better social indicators than the best and most successful capitalist states based on a system that "never worked and never will". Yeah, crazy. Numbers and facts tend to disagree with your anti-communist propaganda.

The problem is there is no recipe for communism, in each place, it will be unique. People think socialism/communism should be this way or that way are just ignorant. China is a socialism state in the extent that the rich/elite/capitalists don't rule there. They don't have much influence as far as public programs go. A capitalist state is one where the bourguesie are actually in charge over the politicians. So there is NEVER interest in really solving social problems, only maintenence of money and power to the same people forever. China has raised hundreds of millions over poverty, ended hunger, jobs and houses to everyone, education, healthcare etc. This would NEVER happen in a capitalist state, specially in one with more then 1 BILLION fucking people. Simply because the PROFIT is the goal on a capitalist state and in a communist state, the welfare of the people is the goal. How this is going to be achieved in PRACTICE is completely unique. Marx said this in his work very clearly. By the way: there is elections in China. I live in Brazil, we are the biggest producer of food in the world, we export food to the world and half our population (actual numbers) don't know when their next meal are comming. Capitalism is best if you are the 1%, Communism if you are the 99%. Its all a matter of which side you are. That is observable by the data provided by communism experiences all over history, the social indicators improved radically in each one of them.

Only every brainwashed capitalist ever. China is Socialist, just not the socialism you think it should be because you don't know what you are talking about. China is an undeniable success of socialism and the best people like you can do about it is saying it is not socialist. You are not being original at all, Leo.

You seem very triggered and narrow minded, only attacked me and used platitudes + propaganda without any argumentation with sources. Study more, less arrogance. Pure vomit of mainstream platitudes.

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The "history" you talk about is full of distortions, exagerations and blatent lies told by capitalist devils. This "history" is not uncontested, so you should choose more carefully your sources. By the way, the "Sparroy extinction" you posted on your blog is a lie, a capistalist propaganda. What are you talking about? China didn't have to invade half the world in order to prosper like the US and european countries. It sustains itself on sucking the life out of the 95%, like a parasite, a virus. And the communist revolutions is a natural evolution due to capistalism blatenly contradictions.

Success to whom? The people? For sure. The elites, not at all. There is a reason why the capistalist devils love to demonize communism. Aside from capitalist propaganda (most "sources", inclusing books, are based on that), the material proofs are irrefutable. We are talking about a system of production that doen'st depend on predatory explorarion of its own people or other countries. Capitalism is unsustainable.

Not true at all. The two biggest social advances jumps in history was the USSR and China. The USSR started at the feudal age and in a few decades was competing with the biggest imperialist economy of the world and scaring the shit out of it. The USSR developed its technology enough to put win basicaly the "space race" with the exception to putting a man on the moon. China was one of the poorest country in the beggining of the 20th century, raised 700 million out of poverty and now is the second biggest economy of the world, going to be the first very soon.

You can't put someone who insert the most potent psychedelic in the ass at the same level as Rupert Spira. Rupert downplays enlightenment a lot. He even said that you could awaken so slowly that you didn't even noticed. What a bummer.

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@Oeaohoo Lol your parody is amazing hahaha pretty much nailed it This "end of the world" talk is as old as it gets. Nurture fear on people, place yourself as the only one who "sees it all" and knows what to do.

Yeah, his "end of the matrix"/"society is colapsing" talks gets tiring very fast, stopped following him also for this reason.

Aaron has lots of blue in him. He has taken pretty much all right-wings talking points during the pandemic. Full of conspiracy theoris, "pro-freedom", antivax etc Stopped following him for this reason.

Agreed, that was one of his best videos. I consider myself a radical leftist but he made a lot of good points there that made me consider from a tier 2 perspective.

They only publicly stop there, at least the smart ones do. Most of them try to be as indirect as possible in order to have some plausible negability. If someone call on their bullshit, they can try to bullshit they way out of it and scream persecution. Kayne lacks that common-sense because he is insane. I am not dismissin what he says, only that he lacks the filter that most far-right comentator/leader has.

Are you sure is real people, not just trolls and bots?