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@kieranperez Do you do specific Kundalini Stuff?

@Tony 845 How long did it take ya to get to 2 hour sits?

@8Ball I would actually use the viagra like once or twice to get some good experiences without worry. Its something my doctor also recommend to me. You actually dont need it but it helps when you are super nervous.

@The Don That's exactly my problem too.

@Charlotte I still hope when I get mine they become magical and I can do cool magick stuff with them.

So I had my first date from cold approach today and I got reminded how easily I feel deeply hurt by simple comments. Stuff like: "I only said yes because I didn't want to say no." "I didn't want to hurt your feelings so I agreed." These simple comments dropped my mood from good to bad and my confidence just broke. Its such a dumb thing. I constantly felt like she didn't like me and i got harder and harder to hold up a conversation. Escalation by touch became impossible inside my mind. I saw (or thought of seeing) every little detail that showed how she didn't like me and thought I was a looser. I don't understand why I care so much. I don't care when I approach and get rejected, but being on a date and starting to feel like she seems me as a non-prospect just friends thing just freaking breaks me. Like I know intellectually its bullshit and I hate being that vulnerable. I don't want to base my own self worth on the opinion of women but I still do it. It drives me crazy. Its like a deep seated hurt and fear. I know it comes from the bullying I received in middle school, mainly from girls, but I thought I got through that (mostly). I would gladly appreciate any advice on how I can work on that.

So I seriously started daygame. I talked to around 20 women the last 3 days and it has gone...okay. Got around 5 numbers, 3 of those being flakes, one date setup. From the beginning I had the fear of being "recognized" as the guy going up to girls everyday. Now I accidently reapproached a girl I already approached yesterday (different time and place). She was looking at my like I am the most vile creature on planet earth. How do you deal with this fear bzw. the real thing happening? @aurum @SFRL

Talking to women I feel like talking to. Being open in my sexuelles intent. Being bold and open. Not compromising my opinion or actions because of the opinions of others. Not fearing rejection. Being aware of the state and feelings of the girl I'm talking to and considering that in my actions etc.

@supremeyingyang I do pickup mostly to learn the skillset of attraction, learn to be authentic around women and have some short term romances. Definetly not to find "the one". @Timothy I did not ask for your moral judgement of pickup. The fact that you think its all about lines and techniques shows that you have no understanding about pickup. Becoming natural effortless and free flowing is a process which you can pick up through pickup. Telling someone to "just be yourself" is like the worst dating advice ever.

@aurum Thanks! With the girl I just said "Ah, I guess I son't convince you today, huh?" It wasnt a really good reaction, but hey it was authentic and I didnt freak out. Im actually mostly around the university or city where there are really a ton of girls. @Timothy I really suck at night game. I feel very out of place and broody in night clubs, so day game fits my energy much more. Im doing pickup to learn how to attract women authentically and to have good experiences with them. @onacloudynight I dont have a big problem with rejection anymore. Its more like being widely known as the lame ass beta pickup tryhard, which would just blandly suck long term.

@SFRL Seems legit. @Hello from Russia That is quite true actually. Something I should try to recognize in my approaches.

@Shiva Interesting, how did you come to live so far away? What are you doing for a living? Im living in Göttingen btw.

I really resonate with that. That is the thing, the way I see it the "rightness" of ideas are quite distributed between different viewpoints.

I suggest doing your research and knowing what you are dealing with.

@Emerald I think there is quite some truth to what you say. I think both left and right fall quite too easily into victim mentality. I think who ever paints the picture of "I am a victim and they are the evil ones" should be watched very closely, may it be the alt right blaming the women and transsexuals, as well as the extreme sjw blaming men and the patriarchy. I think the balance is hard to find. I think it is also very hard to see where real injustices are and where they are not. I think some questions dont have such easy answers as people want you to believe. I think the current systems has many good qualities and many flaws. Nontheless, its not a inherently bad system that should be just thrown away, because at the moment we don't have anything better. That doesn't mean change cant be introduced and tried where it seems necessary. I think the wave of the reintroduction of feminine energy misused by a number of people, painting the whole movement in a bad light and I think much of the "shadow" you describe rallying against that finds it hard to distinguish the movement from the abusers. I think both feminine AND masculine energy are in a bad place at the moment. I think I should maybe read some feminists books with an open mind to see that side, just as Im reading a book from the manosphere to see "my own" side. This is really complicated stuff and there is no cookie cutter answer.

@danton Yes, that is totally the right mindset. I fully resonate with that. Many people jump full boar into spirituality with a life in shambles.

@Preetom There are shades of gray. not only one gray.

@Shiva Yes, I just wanted to point people to this, because in my opinion leo sometimes is a bit lacky in warning about risks and dangers while advocating psychedelics.

@8Ball Is it just the porn or also performance anxiety? if so you might try some Viagra the first few times to get confident about sex.

@d0ornokey well I have encountered quite a lot of thee lefties in real life since starting University. But yes they are a loud minority just as the radical right.

@Max_V Thank you man. True shit. @Mikael89 Stop crying and go and REALLY improve and try. You say you cant do it? Did you do 1000 Cold approaches? Did you watch 100 RSD Videos and understood the principles? Did youwork on your looks and posture to get the best out of it? Did you work out every day for a year so you are in top form? Did you go to nightclubs every weekend grinding and failing and grinding and failing? If you did that and did not have success, okay go complain and whine. If not, you have no business complaining about other men getting all the girls because you clearly don't deserve their attention.

@Setty I often hear the "Peterson tells people what they already know but cant express." I find it sad that people label him as some anti feminine tyrant, which is far from the case. @Serotoninluv I was under the impression we had to integrated blue, orange, yellow etc. values, not dismiss EVERYHTING that stage has to offer. @Emerald I think your view of Peterson is highly missconstructed based on a few snippets of what he might have said and what he got "hyped" for. That is why I suggested watching this video to get a good grasp of his viewpoints and attitude. The main focus of his points is individual betterment to advance society and avoid catastrophe, which I think we all can agree on. Also the points that Setty mentioned. I don't care so much about his political stuff, which is only a tiny subset of his agenda. But to get to that too: Maybe I am wrong, but parts of the "green" identity politic movement is, in my own view, not at all green but demonizing against some groups like the stereotypical "cis white male". Like there is real hatred there, that's not green. Thats the same as Nazis hating foreigners. I think we need to move ABOVE stereotypicalisations and not flip them. See the individual, not the black women, the white men or the mexican transgender. And I think identity politics, which is the only "forward" movement JP is criticizing, is a step backwards.

@Shin That is a generalization and not true.

@Max_V @Shin I still think Pickup can be far more than just an assembly of "techniques", but learning how to authentically attract women and keep them happy and interested without having to lie or act a way that isn't true. I also think one should not do so much philosophy but try it out in the real world and when you have consistent success, THEN you can talk.

The thing most often heard around here concerning diet is to not eat wheat. Do oats also fall into that bad category? I wanted to research the specific reasons why people think that wheat is bad soon and read "grain brain" but that question just fell into my mind.