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@pluto Will do! Thanks.

My herbalist mentioned that I need more fat in my diet, to which I agree (kind of dry skin). She mentioned that hemp seeds need to be ground for the omega-3 to be (much better) available. I haven't heard that anywhere else. Not so sure I can find them ground anywhere either and grounding them myself would be a hassle. Anyone got thoughts on that?

@pluto Makes sense. By the way, I don't really feel that much craving for fatty foods like seeds from day to day. I was recommended 6 table spoons of hemp seeds (if I chose those) a day. It feels like way over the top to me. I really feel like just primarily listening to the body and experimenting and eat what it seems to want instead of just taking professional advice. I'm frigging living this body, not them.

Yea. I'm staying away from all animals and all oils (except a little bit of coconut oil maybe).

@Michael569 Huh, if those seeds are cheaper (which I saw they are) and have a better ratio, it seems like a no brainer to focus on getting those instead. I bought hemp seeds without the shell. So maybe that's enough even if I miss chewing some of them? Could look for ground ones next time. Thanks.

Hm...yea. Maybe she has a lot of patients who can't chew properly. Thanks.

My teeth never have been quite white, but not noticably yellow either. Just recently started using no fluoride toothpaste and no change from that. I'd be curious to know what makes teeth white naturally. Is it even natural and healthy to have super white teeth, or is it just a cultural preference?

@jjer94 I think it's good to note the possible spiritual connection with food as a factor in being able to handle certain diets. I've seen it mentioned a good few times now. The most extreme cases mentions people being able to live on the Sun and Air. Wouldn't that be nice. All you'd need is somewhere to stay warm and sheltered. ^^

@Slade Thanks for the vid. Something to mull over in my studies. At first glance, it's not convincing. For example, it's talking about blood PH levels, while my source talks about the overall body's PH factor and goes into more chemical details that are not mentioned in that vid. It doesn't talk about the resulting cellular starvation from the body's acidosis and how it occurs. It's not as simple as just blood PH level changing. Let's leave it at that. What we have is a bunch of information. It's up to each of us to process that.

Haven't heard about this rotten teeth stuff, so don't know. Been eating a lot of fruit the past month and haven't experienced that (how do I know they're rotten? lol, at least they haven't changed). Could be they weren't eating fresh fruit, maybe canned or dried? I definitely feel different in my mouth after eating dried fruit, not in a good way if I eat a lot, so I keep dried fruit in moderation. The book lists fresh fruit as "alkaline-forming" and not "acid-forming". Not sure how that relates to your use of "acidic". Also haven't heard of this conversion process. So, don't know. Wish I could become conscious of when I'm losing minerals from my bones.

@Slade Yea. Regarding the comparison of our innards to other animals, I'm pretty much using the Detox Miracle Sourcebook I mentioned. Interestingly, it categorizes dogs as omnivores, saying that they have a proportionally larger liver (to handle meat), shorter colon (closer to carnivores), tusk-like canine teeth and some other things. I was going to get confirmation of those things from other sources, but haven't gotten to it. In any case, it makes sense to compare our physiology holistically instead of picking out specific organs. Also a central point in that book is that our digestive tract is mostly alkaline in nature, rather than acidic. A good point is the large complex liver of carnivores to digest meat with strong gastric juices and total lack of salivary glands, while we start alkaline digestion in the mouth (salivating) and have relatively weak gastric juices from our simpler liver. I recommend the author's youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0ZBff-hRPchbXSe2o-aZdA Honestly, the vibes I get from this guy makes it easy for me to trust him. Having raised my consciousness enough thanks to Leo, I'm open to what he has to say, because I "get" all the spiritual stuff he gets into instead of discarding him as kind of nutty.

@Slade I agree wholeheartedly with trusting our natural instincts more. I believe we're primarily frugivores though. It's a very different matter when you place colorful fruits in front of a child. Then it can be difficult to distinguish natural from just habit and having grown used to. Especially if it's seen as socially expected, a child is going to trust its parents and grows used to those things. Even its gut bacteria then changes by eating those foods and make it crave more of it in turn. Speaking from experience regarding vegetables, like broccoli. When I cut out all sugar and all that stuff and just got used to it, I began loving it (steamed that is). Think it has partially something to do with more tolerance of the taste now that I didn't have crazy sweetness to contrast with it. With all the "kid bait" food out there today and in past decades, I'm not surprised that vegetables are less desired in turn. I'm not convinced kids' attitudes were quite like that at some earlier points in history.

@Slade As far as I know, the B12 thing is due to degradation of the soil from agriculture, so I don't find it a good argument against veganism/plant-based diets in this case. We would've gotten it in the usual way before agriculture. I'm sure there are examples of long living plant-eating folks somewhere too. Haven't bothered gathering data on that.

@Slade Interesting. Might look into that guy later. He seems to contrast with one of my main sources: Robert Morse (who points out what @pluto just did), in that he especially used raw animal products and not just raw fruits/veggies. Also stories of 150 year old tribe members remind me of a quote from Robert Morse's book: The Detox Miracle Sourcebook: Then there are people like Dave Asprey aspiring to live to 170, and he has his hacky ways. Wish I could live that long to see who's truly right.

Don't got much experience with that, but I've been following Rob Stuart for some time and he has a few videos about gaining/maintaining muscle. His focus is skin health, but also just holistic health.

No experience or sources on such here, but below is some stuff I wanted to talk about anyway for your benefit hopefully. I had been on a Primal/Paleo diet for 3 quarters of a year, which did nothing for my eczema condition, but now I've found a new approach after careful consideration also with holistic health in mind. I'm seeing if it works out, just begun recently. ---------------------------------- I've found this issue of good health and diet requires some careful epistemological consideration, also knowing well what this health you're going for is all about. But we can all kind of agree on what health is in general, longevity, feeling good, looking good etc. So how to determine what's healthy? What are the best sources of Truth for this matter? In my personal experience, there's so much data and conflicting scientific data out there that it's impossible to analyse all of it. So I started to look more inwards for answers, own experience, what makes sense in tackling this question. It made sense to me to assume that the diet my body is designed for is the one that would let me run most smoothly and give me the best health. From the question "what food is my body best designed for?" then followed some introspection from the little data that I could collect. The conclusion so far is that we're best designed to be frugivores. From what I know of history, it seems to me that our evolving species were eating fruits and other plants much longer than meat. Then at some point we became more adventurous, started eating meat, exploring and actually relying more on meat because we had to in colder climates. Given that the period of time we've been eating meat is much shorter than the period of time we've been eating plants, it makes sense to place more weight on plants for health. I actually see meat now as a kind of emergency food, much inkling to how we might cannibalize each other if we started to starve. There are other insights to gain from personal experience too. For example, the lack of desire to attack and eat animals raw when sighted, whereas I have some desire to go after colorful fruit. I'm still kind of new to this plant-based whole foods diet I've adopted, so I've still to truly see if it gives me positive results in real experience. If it does, I know this is the truest direction. I'm fairly confident though since I've taken the approach of investigation that I took. So, I just want to give food for thought in case you haven't thought about it much. It's important to take responsibility for how you derive truth, your definition of truth what sources of truth are valid etc. It's easy to get trapped in the Matrix without knowing it. Here are recent conflicting book sources that I've been using: - The Detox Miracle Sourcebook (Robert Morse) - The New Primal Blueprint (Mark Sisson) - The Vegetarian Myth (Pierre Keith)

@-T8 Indeed. The way I see it, throughout history, we've been collectively trying to get more and more control over how we live our lives. Once there were kings, now we have democracy, or appearance thereof. In earlier days, we could more easily see how the balance of power lay. It was right in front of us in external reality. The king definitely got more power, wealth etc. to do what he wants (although 'some' raising of consciousness must've been needed to imagine that things could be different). Now this power struggle has entered the territory of the mind, hidden by complexity and shallow consciousness. Because of this tendency towards obscurity, of the "center" of power making itself as invisible as it possibly can, it makes total sense that most people don't concern themselves with it. It's inconvenient to do so, they've so many more fun things to do instead, things that benefit them. That's all part of the veil. So when we talk about the benefit between ignoring the issue of privacy/information control and concerning oneself with it, we have to talk about what really matters to us in this life. What are our values and what do we really want? Some people are more conscious of their real wants than others, and some are mistaken about what they want. I like to believe I'm fairly conscious of my wants. My highest value is Truth, embodying the Truth of my own nature in authentic expression and becoming more conscious of the Truth of myself, reality, Being and certain Truths and real experiences thereof that interest me particularly. I sense a real threat to that value the way things are going, due to my technological understanding, personal experience of being locked inside "the matrix" of online video games, culture and a limiting belief system, and contemplating this issue back and forth. I must move towards the last matrix. You may ask, what does privacy have to do with that? It's a matter of power. The more you compromise your privacy/information control, the more some less conscious person out there is able to control your mind and behavior. This then indirectly compromises my upholding of my values. The causal chain of it all may not be apparent every time, but that's how the game is played. Now other people don't care as much. The people I surround myself with will eventually cause some information leaks and so on with poor information control practices. This I realize. It means I must raise awareness and empower them in this area and lead through practice. I can't follow the herd when the truth is so clear in my mind. It takes only one person to start a movement, and I'm far from alone. This isn't convenient at all, just necessary for me to live my truth. Of course there's some balance that I keep and my practices are far from perfect, but I'm updating them somewhat continuously. This view that I have has been going on for some years now, contributing to not keeping in touch with people on social media and seeming all withdrawn and antisocial therefore. I'm just constantly conscious of what the hell is going on. Blessing or a curse, the blue pill or the red. I'll get all social when I got anonymized end-to-end encrypted communication going with the intended recipient. @Epiphany_Inspired Yea, I also think intuition is a good way to go. For intuition to kick in though, people need to be aware of the underlying mechanisms of things. What do you think would happen if Facebook displayed a message in their messenger every time they sent a message saying "Your message has been sent to [friend], as well as the people at Facebook, who by the way like to sell your information as they see fit"?

@Epiphany_Inspired I understand where you're coming from. I think it's also good to keep in mind the positive connections that can happen when we trust and how they really outnumber the negative cases. The Internet has brought us so much positive connectedness. The negatives just usually, unfortunately take the headlines in our minds. I think as human beings, we must have more bias towards trusting than not trusting in the end. Otherwise the wars will just go on.

My intuition says, you don't love yourself and your life, therefore you mentally try to make everyone else love you to fill the void. But when they love you, it doesn't align with the image of yourself as unlovable. One easy insightful book I read recently is Loving what is, by Byron Katie. It might help you stop trying to have others love you and instead accept yourself and the world as is.

Are you making sure you're not keeping the things you're avoiding around the house? Make it hard for you to get them. When you have cravings, do you have a healthier subtitute that's very easy to reach for? (around the house) Just two techniques I can think of atm.

Ahh...there is so much fear around this privacy stuff and negative motivation. To uphold it is usually seen as avoiding a worse alternative. Since I'm passionate about this stuff, I wind up talking about how bad things are getting. There are plenty of fear tactics being used on the issue of privacy already and personally I don't see it working. That in combination with the technical expertise often needed to grasp it makes the issue especially unattractive. I don't know. Maybe I'm just being overly paranoid and taking this too seriously. But I also don't want to fall asleep again and become complacent. That's the nature of the beast. It wants you to stay asleep, yet it's under the bed. I've been thinking about how to use positive motivation for privacy/information control. I feel like I have a pretty good grasp of our innermost shared human values and I think what's needed is to connect this stuff to those values. One idea I've been thinking of is to compare communication between people as it happens in the "real" world with communication as it actually takes place online. I think we possess a certain instinct about our real world communications that becomes very limited when it comes to communication technology. When we chat on Facebook, we don't really realize that these messages are being recorded and kept by real people that can do anything they want with it far into the future. The real world equivalent would be to have some Facebook person following us around and writing down our conversations in a notebook and taking copies of everything we share that he can do whatever he wants with. So if I just inform people this way, I'm just telling the truth in a way everyone understands. I'm not saying how things should be. I'm just telling the truth. In the end, people will make up their own minds, I'm just giving them a chance to do so. Any other ideas on positive motivation for this would be appreciated if anyone got any. Well. Without your personally identifiable information out there, you can just have a laugh at those stalker antics. Sticks and stones, not that even. Maybe you wouldn't feel as sad about that picture if we culturally came to an understanding that being anonymous on the Internet is a very normal and understandable state, as a default, and that it's not about being withdrawn or anything like that. As we talk more, share more over time and get to know each other, trust is built.

@Epiphany_Inspired I've felt this fear too, and it is a legitimate concern, especially after Snowden. Seems you've been creeped out way more than I ever have though. Maybe that's what's required for people to really wake up, get creeped out. That's what those who do surveillance account for though, and instead fly under the radar. What's on the horizon is not just mosquitos, but gnats. It's all getting burried in obscurity, complex algorithms, AI etc. I like the habits you're putting in place. I've started using cash too. No online banking must be rough though? Haven't figured a good way around that yet. Hope you haven't closed off too much to express yourself online with your real name on it though. The rewards of expression can far outweigh the risks.

@Outer I'm looking at information as ALL the information as presented on the screen and going to/from Facebook and the recipient. Even the interface of the web page is information coming from Facebook.

@Outer I don't quite agree. That Facebook has the power to decide what to show through algorithms only they know about, manipulating the interface and so on is not what I prefer. I want that much control over that information (information control). In fact, I'd prefer if Facebook were but a simple relay with proper end-to-end encryption, except for public posts directed to everyone. When I'm only directing your information to a limited number of people, I only want those people to see that information, but when it's public, sure everyone including Facebook may see it. So in this sense, it seems you would find adequate to have a certain level of information control, but I would prefer a higher level of information control.

@Outer One idea is "information control". I thought about "information supremacy", but that's kind of hostile, like the goal is to have power over the other party. Wanting to protect and uphold one's information control makes sense. I feel information needs to be in there, but maybe there's a better term than control.