Hardkill

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  2. Posted

    26 minutes ago, BlackPhil said:

    Jesus christ. Thought "spiritual people" used to be abit more clever and skeptical to the mainstream than this. Unless you are old or very sick you can rely on your own immune system and natural, healthy food and remedies to combat this virus. No need to fill big-pharmas pockets and inject an unnatural, untested mRNA-"vaccine" into your body (not once but over and over), which obviously doesn't stop the spread and only might prevent severe illness for a short period.

    Omicron is less lethal and more virulent than previous mutations, so best thing is to let it run through the population naturally until it becomes endemic and we achieved herd-immunity.

    Trying to vaccinate away an ongoing pandemic with "booster" upon booster is just pure madness.

    Since when did you people become so irrationally afraid of death? 

    People like you really get on my nerves. Just you wait until either someone close to you dies or when you almost die or are going to inevitable dye from being infected by this virus. Then, you'll sing a different a tune about the vaccines. Mark my words!

  3. Posted

    6 hours ago, Girzo said:

    All these countries are lacking in development a few hundreds years. Countries like France or the Netherlands already had some industrial economies, while the Eastern europe was only producing wheat and other food.

    Yeah, but Russia now is one of the most powerful countries in the world and has about the 11th largest economy in the world. So, why does that country still have such a very authoritarian regime?

  4. Posted · Edited by Hardkill

    2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    The new Pfizer pill is like 85%+ effective against death. So that will be a game-changer.

    We just need to buy time until better treatment options are available and more vaccines are sent to the third world. That should be another year.

    A few boosters are reasonable, spaced 6 months apart.

    I thought that the pill is 89%+ effective against both hospitalization and death.

    Besides that, after listening to that clip on your original post, this is getting really scary. 

    I really hope that we don't either have another lockdown or that every single human throughout the whole world will get infected by the virus, regardless of how many people have been fully vaccinated and have gotten a booster:(.

     

  5. Posted

    58 minutes ago, vladorion said:

    Omicron is pretty mild.

    Look at South Africa.

    Biggest wave yet, barely any deaths. And it's not because of vaccines because only 25% are fully vaccinated.

    Yeah, but it's going to spread even much faster than ever before, which means a lot more people throughout the whole world will be hospitalized and die at a much faster rate than ever before. 

    After listening to Dr. Ding just now, I am kinda freaking out now.

  7. Posted

    Leo said in a previous thread entitled "Pickup feels fake and low conscious," that:

    On 11/15/2021 at 7:07 AM, Leo Gura said:

    You can say whatever you want but most women are attracted to low consciousness behavior. Which is why the most low consciousness guys get laid the most and the most conscious guys get laid the least.

    He also said in another previous entitled "Pickup id good-crap" that:

    On 7/26/2020 at 3:25 AM, Leo Gura said:

    In stage Blue society getting laid is a lot easier because you just go to church and marry some girl your church friends introduce you to.

    So does that really mean that a stage Blue guy is able to get easier than another guy either stage orange or stage green or maybe stage Yellow or maybe stage Turquoise? 

    I thought guys who is at stage Orange or above would get laid easier than someone at Stage Blue because of how sexually repressed you are when you are at stage Blue, whereas guys who are at stage Orange or above are more sexually liberated and open-minded.

  9. Posted

    7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    Firstly, there is rockiness in Europe too.

    Secondly, Europe has already had a lot of internal struggle in the last 100 years. They've earned some peace the hard way.

    Thirdly, American culture is particularly hooked on Orange and even Christian Blue. America is more religious than Western Europe and this dogma is directly responsible for a lot of American problems. Fundamentalist Christianity + rampant capitalism is not a recipe for health.

    Trump/Bush could not have won without the fundamentalist Christian crowd. Abortion is basically a fundamentalist Christian dogma issue which doesn't exist in Europe.

    What still doesn't make sense to me is that even though conservatives/Republicans have a lot more Blue than liberals/Democrats do in the US and Blue is about Law and Order, there have been a lot more liberals/Democrats than conservatives/Republicans who have been willing to comply to rules such as economic regulation policies and vaccine mandates from the government.

  10. Posted · Edited by Hardkill

    35 minutes ago, Tim R said:

    @Hardkill

    Stage Blue ≠ (necessarily) Authoritarianism

    Don't forget that people aren't only blue. Or any other stage. It's always a mixture of stages, e.g. of blue and red or blue and orange. That's where the demand for freedom comes in.

    People and societies are too complicated too cram them into simplistic categories like "stage blue". 

    Wait, I am confused. Even if stage Blue isn't necessarily equal to Authoritarianism, Leo said this: 

    On 9/2/2019 at 5:44 PM, Leo Gura said:

    Stage Red & Blue spirituality is dogmatic and authoritarian.

    On 8/21/2019 at 3:15 PM, Leo Gura said:

    Stage Blue has authoritarian tendencies. Because they like to follow a strong leader. So once a strong leader emerges by conquering everyone else, Blue falls in line and conforms.

    Blue loves, loves, loves conformity. It gives Blue a sense of security & comfort.

    Blue loves unambiguous black & white leadership style. Like in the military. Everyone knows his rank and knows exactly what is expected of him.

    Blue makes excellent soldiers because they are so loyal. Of course the problem is, Blue also makes excellent Nazis.

    So, why don't conservatives who have a lot more Blue than liberals, and Blue is still about complying with the laws and orders of society without question, then why aren't conservatives not as compliant or as cooperative with the government's vaccines mandates as liberals are? Why are liberals more compliant with the vaccine mandates?

     

  11. Posted

    22 hours ago, Tim R said:

    Depends entirely on the regulation. Regulation only happens within a context of certain values and those dictate the spiral stage. 

    Government regulation is a mechanism for enforcing certain values, not a value in itself. Although depending on the stage, there can be demand for more or less regulation. 

     

    22 hours ago, SonataAllegro said:

    Regulation is not the same as control. Blue wants control. Orange wants freedom. Green wants regulation.

    If Blue wants control of everyone within its society in such an authoritarian manner then why are there more Blue citizens than Green citizens in the US who are against certain things like vaccine mandates from the government? 

     

  12. Posted · Edited by Hardkill

    People like Joe Rogan and Barack Obama have some Blue traits, some Orange traits, some Green traits and some Yellow traits in them because of how relatively open-minded they are to many different kinds of perspectives and to all different kinds of political parties. Then wouldn't center-left Democratic politicians and voters also be stage Yellow people? After all, they are liberals who have a lot of good blue values, good blue values, and good green values unlike the progressives who don't have very little to no Blue values in them. Plus, the centre-left Dems are more reasonable with Republicans than progressives are with them, and definitely more moderate and pragmatic than progressives are about getting any liberal policies enacted for our society.

  13. Posted · Edited by Hardkill

    12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    They will certainly try to steal elections and stuff like that.

    Their constant crying about election theft is just classic projection. They are the ones who struggle to win democratically.

    So, even if the right-wing freaks try again and again and again to steal future elections, you don't believe that the fall of US democracy is inevitable or even possible at all like how this guy talks about in this video?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIwRB7r6wM4

  15. Posted · Edited by Hardkill

    8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    In other words nationalism/fascism. This is not new. We've been here before, but society has evolved a lot in the last 100 years.

    That's true. However, do you think that this time we may be more likely headed towards a civil war given the fact that the US has become more polarized than ever before, especially due to both Trump and the right-wing media? 

    The Jan 6th capitol riot incident was the first time that something like that ever happened to our country.

  16. Posted · Edited by Hardkill

    I started losing my hair at around my early 20s. I now have a bald spot at the crown of my head. I know how you feel OP, at least to some degree. I feel insecure about my bald spot everyday.

    I think mine was caused by too much dihydrotestosterone, because at the same time I was losing hair from the top my head, I was gaining more body hair on my chest, shoulder and back of my neck. 

    If you still have a good amount of hair left then maybe try some kind of hair concealer for a while. I haven't used it myself, but I actually want to try it on myself soon. 

  17. Posted

    I get that Law and Order is an example of stage Blue, but what about government regulation?  I know that conservatives are examples of stage Blue because they strongly believe in tradition, religion, conformity, moral codes of conduct, social norms, manners, hierarchy, law and order, discipline, pride in one's civilization, military, police, obedience, etc. Yet even though conservatives and Republicans in the US have always proudly portrayed themselves to be the champions of law and order (despite actually being more violent and dangerous than most liberals and Democrats), they are ironically against big government regulation, particularly when it comes to business and the economy. Yet, Stage Green people, including liberals, progressives, and most Democrats seem to be more in favor of more government regulation on everything within their society even though they have been the champions of the liberal movement. 

    So, is government regulation an example of stage Blue or stage Green or both?

  19. Posted

    Okay, I think it get it now. So, what makes Stage Blue different from stages Orange and Green, but always necessary even within 1st world countries is that Blue involves the official law and order of a society and the monopoly of force by the military, police, and justice system of that society's government. Green and Orange may have some degree of each of those elements, but not at the sufficient levels needed for a whole society, let alone a large nation in modern times, to function, survive, and deliver justice in a pragmatic cohesive way. Stage Blue also teaches individuals to respect the necessary rules and norms established by their civilization and carry out their responsibilities, civic duties, and obligations that a citizen has to his country.

    So actually, Blue, Orange, and Green all need each other in order for a first world society to function, survive, deliver justice, prosper, allow creativity, allow freedom (within reason), allow equal rights, and make as much scientific and societal progress as possible. The same would apply for each individual person who lives within any of those societies.

    So, then how necessary are red or purple values for first world societies or for any individuals living in any of those places?

  20. Posted

    2 minutes ago, AdroseAkise said:

    YES, of course. 

    BLUE is expressed through; Discipline, work ethic, integrity, proper dress, proper and polite language, sobriety and self control

    RED is expressed through; Loyalty, passion, decisiveness, no-nonsense, the ability to stand up for oneself. 

    PURPLE is expressed through; connection to nature, and deep intimate bonds with family and community

    This is deeply false.

    Let me trying asking my question(s) in another way:

    Aren't the BLUE values which do include discipline, work ethic, integrity, proper dress, proper and polite language, sobriety and self control, etc. also in Stage ORANGE? 

    Aren't the RED values which do include loyalty, passion, decisiveness, no-nonsense, the ability to stand up for oneself, etc. also in stage ORANGE? 

    Aren't the PURPLE values which do include connection to nature, and deep intimate bonds with family and community also in both stage BLUE and stage GREEN?

  21. Posted · Edited by Hardkill

    8 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

    There are no healthy Tier 1 value systems. There are specific examples where where Tier 2 grabs inspiration, but as self-contained value systems, they're incomplete. Tier 1 is not self-aware: it excludes, judges, fears, otherizes etc. It does not understand its own values, how they relate to other values, or how to differentiate between healthy or toxic expressions of these values.

    Okay? How does that answer the question I have which is what would happen if a person from a 1st world society who has stage both the essential aspects of Orange and Green which Leo talks about doesn't have any values from either Purple, Red, or Blue? What would happen to a 1st world society that only has Orange and Green, but has very little to no Red, Blue, or Purple?

    Also, isn't there overlap with hard work ethic and discipline of Stage Blue and that from Stage Orange?

  23. Posted

    But what would happened if a first world country such as the US had very little to no Red, Blue, or Purple and only healthy Orange and healthy Green? Couldn't positive Orange and positive Green protect it's country from violence and enact sufficient law, order, and justice for its society?

    Also, what is the difference between the hard work ethic and discipline of Stage Blue versus Stage Orange work ethic and discipline?

  25. Posted · Edited by Hardkill

    So, I've recently been studying a lot more in depth on each of the different stages of spiral dynamics, and know that experts on this concept like Leo have mentioned that each person needs to go through each stage sequentially in order to solidly embrace and integrate all of the healthy aspects of each stage into your life and evolved beautifully into the highest conscious being possible. I know that Leo has already mentioned a number of times before that you have to have the good traits of each and every stage, you can't skip any stage nor can you can't suppress any of the lower stages, and that you may even have to go back down to the lower stages and work on each of those sequentially for a while in order to both properly burn through your karma and learn how to survive and function. Furthermore, I totally get that all of the first four stages of SD (Beige, Purple, Red, and Blue) are needed if you live in either any first world or even any second world country in order to have the best chances of surviving and thriving in those societies given how brutal and primitive each of those nations are to varying degrees. Additionally, I understand that someone who is at stage Green cannot function or survive independently let alone succeed at anything, and tends to be hypocritical and too judgmental if they don't have any good stage Orange values in them. Conversely, I am aware that someone who is at stage Orange is not going to ever be a truly happy and highly enlightened person and can be so selfish to the point of becoming a great liability to others and perhaps to their entire society in the long-run if that person never learns to integrate any good aspects and values from Stage Green. So, of course Orange needs Green and Green needs Orange.

    However, after contemplating much about each of the aspects and values of each stage, if you have all of the healthy values of both Orange and Green, and you live in a first world country then why do you need to have any values from either Stage Purple, Stage Red, or Stage Blue?

    Secondly, wouldn't both stage Orange and stage Green together already have all of the traits that Purple, Red, and Blue have? Yes, stage Red has the positive essential traits including assertiveness, courage, pride, decisiveness, assertiveness, ambition, charisma, adventurousness, taking initiative & ownership, personal willpower, pragmatism, strength/power, status, breaking with the pack & pushing the envelope, etc. However, stage Orange seems to already have all of those traits in a much more evolved way. Stage Blue includes hard work, discipline, duty, law, order, enforcing borders, objective sense of right & wrong, hierarchy, social order, status quo, etc. Yet stage Orange has all of those traits too. Yes, stage Orange doesn't have other qualities that stage Blue has such as loyalty, patriotism, morality, good & evil exist, justice, stability, security, meaning & greater purpose, culture, tradition, heritage, crusading for a righteous cause, family values, charity, giving back to my community, etc. But stage Green seems to already have all of those traits in a much more evolved way. Yes, Stage Purple has the values of family & tribal bonds, blood relationships, living together, contribution to the tribe, honor, mystery, spirituality, respecting elders, ancestors, customs, reciprocity, sharing, cooperative-interdependence, out of body travel, intuition, use of psychedelics, etc. Yet again, stage Green seems to already have all of those traits in a much more evolved way.