Hardkill

As the title says, I’ve lost all hope in my sex, social, and romance life. I’ve getting help in this, but nothing has helped me. Therapists have failed. Meditation and enlightenment and finding my life purpose take way too long. What’s a quick and easy way to get rid of this heartache. If I didn’t have a family I would seriously consider suicide as a viable option. I really mean it.

The universe doesn't always know what it's doing. It's so hard to be in the present when there's so much uncertainty out there. It's sometimes scary. That's why I occasionally contemplate suicide. I am tired of living with all of this unpredictability.

Thanks for your response, Leo. Though, I didn't say that I wanted to be a girl/woman. Though I guess I can see the point you're trying to make here. Btw, I don't see how women these days have had any social consequences from sleeping with more than 10-20 guys (unless you live in a primitive country like in Iraq where you are ruled by a dictator). Also, while men may not spend 10% of their life putting on makeup or dressing up well like women are pressured to do, men have lately been pressured to workout hard and eat an ample amount of good quality food to get bigger, stronger, more stamina, more muscular, and have to work hard on finding a good clothing style for themselves all to impress the women they want. Furthermore, even though men obviously don't have to deal with risks of pregnancy and abortion themselves, they still have to make sure that they avoid creating any unwanted pregnancies these days. Otherwise, he will legally be forced to pay for child support indefinitely. Plus, men like me have been randomly ghosted by women after having sex with them. Moreover, yes, it true that there have been more women who have been physically and verbally abused by men than vice versa. Yes, it is also true that women get manipulated more than men do. However, most women in relationships are usually the ballbusters who tend to control the man's relationship life. Additionally, men have to work much harder than women to keep the girl/woman they want even after having had 1 to 2 dates with them. As far as women get judged much more negatively for being assertive or selfish, I don't believe that to be true in western developed societies like the U.S., Canada, Japan, South Korea, Ireland, the UK, France, Israel, Italy, Spain, Germany, Scandinavian countries, etc. Regarding crazy emotional fluctuations, how do women have to deal with that more than men unless they are bipolar or are psychotic? Finally, aren't there plenty of women out there who make as much money as men if not a lot more? Taylor Swift is one of the highest paid musicians with a net worth of about 200 million US dollars. A vast number of female celebrities and successful female entrepreneurs have made millions of dollars themselves. Most men throughout the entire world will never even make more than a million dollars no matter what they do.

There is no way for me to write extensive reports on each of the hundreds of approaches that I made. I am telling you I am doing my best. I have help many others in the past. You don't know my personal life.

Okay. Here is a lay report of mine, from a couple of years ago, telling how I lost my V-card: http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/lay-reports/long-last-did-vt193152.html I had a small text conversation with her a few days after we fucked. Sadly however, she suddenly and randomly ghosted me and so I never heard or saw her ever again. A lot of times I feel like I lost my V-card and got a few lays from a few other girls through sheer luck.

Yeah Ajasatya, I agree with see_on_see. Like Leo said, you can't just meditate away your need for sex, unless you are middle or older and have had a lot of experience with sex beforehand. I am still young and have had very little experience with sex (despite having had a fair amount of makeout sessions with various girls).

Damn. How the hell did you survive through such pain and misery? My habits except for procrastination and time management are in check. Inner and outer weaknesses, social, seduction, and romance skills are still a great mystery to me.

So I should work on both my inner and outer weaknesses at about the same time?

That all sounds good, but I tried that with my martial arts for over 10 years, weightlifting for over 4 years, running for several months, yoga classes, karaoke (I happen to be a decent singer), sculpture/ceramics, etc.

I am sorry, but I don't get it. I don't understand how to find such traits in a girl and then compare them to mine. Also, I really want a girl who is hot. They matter to me a lot. I am sorry.

Yeah, but girls usually find and keep the right awesome person for the faster than most guys who even get the chance to even get a 2nd date or more with an amazing girl for them. Women don’t nearly as much competition as men do. Hot women especially have virtually no competition for the right guy. Ive tried taking a break for months to work on my self esteem and it didn’t help me feel much better. Also, I am getting tired of people saying that “girls can sense whether a guy is desperate or not.” We are all needy to a degree. The idea of neediness being a turn off doesn’t negatively effect your chances with someone as much as most people think. I mean would you tell a person starving for food to stop being so desperate for food? No, of course not. Also, if women’s intuition is so great that they can easily detect how needy a guy is, then why can’t they easily sense whether the guy is evil or highly manipulative?

Well, I’ve try meeting girls through building rapport many times, and each time it failed. No matter what I do, no matter what I try will always be one or more steps behind most people. I feel like a freak. Yet, I don’t deserve this. I can’t believe u have never found someone for a serious relationship ever at your age. You must have secluded yourself from the rest of the world or something.

You don’t know for sure if you’ll ever improve. Believe me, I’ve tried practically everything there is. I am practically at the end of the line with getting any help with women. I just don’t see how or why I should feel very optimistic about my future dating, sex, romance life. I feel like I am just going through the motions and deceiving myself that it will happen. Even when I feel pumped and full of confidence I still get ultimately rejected by the ones I want. It’s impossible for me to figure out where I am going wrong. There are virtually an infinite amount of variables to factor into play. Why should I have faith in myself?

Believe it or not, I would still care because I am very insecure. I am afraid that I will never get good with women no matter what I do because I’ve failed countless times with them. I fear that I be single or have to settle with someone mediocre for the rest of my life.

This has been very interesting indeed. So, who has been judging you and have there been any social or familial consequences with you? I too am afraid of getting diseases and getting a girl pregnant. That was one of the reasons why I didn't lose my virginity until I was 27 and 3/4 years old and finally felt desperate for sex and love. I still am afraid of getting STDs, but my fear of them has been reduced greatly ever since I've madeout with over 20-30 girls and have gotten laid with 3 girls and almost got PIV laid with two other girls (I fondled and fingered a lot with those girls). Regarding pregnancy issues, guys these days have a lot to worry about with getting a girl pregnant because of the current laws regarding chid support. If a guy impregantes a girl or woman, then he has to pay her child support for the child. She could abort the baby, but if I am not mistaken, most women don't choose abortion. Casual sex is fun, but at the same it can depress me when the girl ditches me after a one-night stand or after a couple of dates. Interesting, I lost my virginity from a one-night stand with a girl who had a boyfriend and the first thing she did after making out and rubbing my cock in my pants was blow me and deep throat me in public. Then we went to my car and fucked in there.

So, if there are only 2% of the guys out there in the world that would have even the slightest hint of interest in, then how does someone like you keep faith in the idea that you will find that amazing one for you? Also, are you sure that the reason for not having casual sex is not because you're afraid of being judged as a slut?

I see. Well, that’s a fair enough answer. I guess not every girl desires to have casual sex. Now let me ask you this. Do u feel that there’s a very limited amount of guys for to choose from in this world?

Why don’t u like it when guys approach u just for sex? Sex should be just for fun.

Good Looks really don't mean much. I don't mean to brag, but I've always looked exceptionally good-looking and it didn't help me much with getting and keeping any of the girls I want. @BjarkeT Your answer sounds too uncertain.

Also Leo, would you consider virgins who are in their mid twenties or older to have an exceptional talent for being celibate?

Btw, I forgot to mention that I don’t like the fact that Corey Wayne is a Trump supporter. Trump supporters are usually not smart and believe in outdated simple- minded concepts with any thing in life.

Corey Wayne isn’t that great. His ideas and understanding of certain ideas pertaining to relationships is mostly right. However, his methods of picking up and dating women are relatively ineffective according my experience. His advice on online dating is even worse.

Wow! I can't believe how naive I was to think that practically all Buddhist monks are saints unlike the Catholic Priests. I don't know why I didn't realize this earlier. Also, I actually thought that Leo gave some invaluable pieces of wisdom and knowledge here on sex and meditation. This thread actually turned out to be genuinely great. OP, I feel your pain. I am not a virgin anymore and have slept with a few girls from online dating and fooled around with a couple from warm approaching. Yet, I've been rejected by about a thousand girls (even though I close to getting laid with some of them), despite my model looks over a period of about 3 years of approaching girls in all kinds of venues, having tried my best with online dating, looking up all kinds of PUA material, etc. I wonder if pickup doesn't work for everyone. Or maybe it does work for literally anyone who is mentally sane, but demands a serious amount of investment of time and commitment to make continual significant progress at it, as Leo stated. Btw, most legit PUA experts say that to truly get the most effective results with pickup that you need to approach at least 20-40 girls a week every week. Unfortunately, I haven't had the luxury to this at this point in my life now because of my financial and academic life along with my parents who I not only live with, but also don't approve of pickup that have gotten in the way of making a serious commitment to cold/warm approaching a lot. Yet maybe you don't have any of these obstacles like I do. If so then perhaps you have more of a choice then I do of approaching 20-40 girls a week every week in public venues. Now, I would advise not approaching random girls you've never met either in your class (if you go to school) or workplace or clubs or gyms you belong to or any kind of organization you belong to. Otherwise, you could jeopardize your career at your job or risk losing your membership at any other place you are a member of. Believe me, I've gotten kicked out of a gym and a mall for approaching random girls I've never met before even when I was very polite and had no intention at all of stalking or creeping any of them out. A lot of security guards and managers in virtually any store or club like "protecting" girls unnecessarily like white knight douchebags. Yet, If you can kicked out for harmlessly approaching a lot of women at a store or club, then you risk creating greater consequences to your life if you cold approach random girls who are strangers or acquaintances to you at work or in any of your classes at school. The only exception to this is actually approaching girls on a relatively big university campus or community college campus outside of a classroom or school gym as long as you don't stalk them or approach like a drunkard or crazy weirdo. Small campuses can be riskier than big ones because you're less likely to be anonymous when constantly approaching a college or grad school girl on a small campus.

Hey guys, I recently came upon a vid on youtube from PUA coach Kezia Noble on overcoming rejection. It mainly explains about doing what's called "blowout game." Here's the link for vid that talks about it: What do you guys think about it? Could this idea be helpful for someone like me with approach anxiety and depression or would doing it be very asinine and possibly get me into some legal trouble with women?

I've tried Tyler's way and it didn't work for me.