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You guys are overlooking the most questioning pertaining to twerking: “Does she have a sexy bubblebutt?” Come on guys.? jk? or am I?

Sometimes, not being sore is a good thing because it means that your connective tissues and muscles have adapted very well by becoming more durable than before, especially for the exact workout routine (exercises, sets, reps, number of workout days, etc.) In fact, you can use it as an opportunity to improve your flexibility. If you muscles get too sore too often then it can significantly reduce the range of motion in each of your joints. So how do you know if you effectively worked a certain muscle or group of muscles you targeted for each of the exercises you did if you didn't get sore over the following 1-3 days? The answer is noticing whether or not you are making progress in a certain exercise. If you are either able to do more reps with same weight you worked with as before, or feel stronger than before and feel like you can lift with more weight than before, or you see that you are gaining more muscle mass or they feel harder when you flex them then you are making progress. Any of these signs hold true whether you are primarily training for strength or if you are mainly focusing on building muscle mass. If you goal is primarily to develop muscular endurance, then you know you are making progress if you can do more reps without feeling too sore for the next 1-3 days.

I've tried dating methods from Corey Wayne, Hayley Quinn, Kezia Noble, Gunwitch, Gambler's Stealth Attraction, Chief's seductive Introvert, etc.

Okay, this is a common misconception. Muscle soreness has nothing to do with lactic acid build up. It is an inflammatory response to the microscopic damage done to the muscles and connective tissue. Sometimes if you're muscles and connective tissue including ligaments, tendons, fascia, cartilage feel sore for more than 3 days then that means you did either too much total volume (too many sets and/or reps for the exercise, though sometimes it could mean too much weight) or did too many exercises that primarily targeted a specific muscle during a workout session. When a certain muscle group or groups of muscles get sore for more than 3 days then that means that those muscles and connective tissue associated with them got too damaged and will not be able to recover efficiently and effectively from them. Regarding lactic acid, lactic acid always clears from the muscles completely about a half hour to an hour after the workout session. Hell, most of the lactic from that worked muscle or muscles (depending upon which specific exercise(s) you did) already gets recycled to the liver and then back to the muscles turning it back to glycogen (the stored form of glucose). Also, lactic acid build up and muscle soreness have different physical sensations. Lactic acid build up is the burning feeling you get during and several seconds after doing a certain anaerobic endurance activity for a set period of time or doing a specific muscle building exercise for moderate to high level of reps. Essentially, the feeling of lactic acid build up is that sensation that gym bros or coaches typically are saying when they say "feel the burn!" Now, Muscle soreness is when the muscle feels more like an aching tightness especially when you try to either contract it or stretch it. Also, when the muscle and its respective tendon(s) and ligament(s) are sore, they feel more tender when you touch them. When a muscle has lactic acid built up in there, it doesn't feel more tender when you touch it. Btw, going to failure on every set is another common mistake. I used to do that all the time because my ego compelled me to do so (especially when I want to really grind hard on the last rep on the squat, deadlift, bench, and OH press). However, I've backed off from doing that on most of my exercise and my joints feel better and I have been able to recover better. U usually want to go 1-2 reps short of failure for each set. For accessory movements it's okay to go to failure on the last set. Also, by failure I mean missing a rep. It's okay if on your last set for each exercise (even the main lifts) you break your form a little bit as long as you feel for sure that you can complete that last rep or finish executing one more rep. This will take some experience to know when to stop short of failure. In case you're wondering who the hell I am, I am a highly knowledgable trainee in weightlifting, cardio/conditioning, fitness, flexibility training, nutrition, anatomy, and physiology. I've been studying all of this stuff down to a very scientific level for well over 14 years and have devoted over 4 years to heavy lifting and bodybuilding. I am also a highly experienced martial artist and half been training for a half-marathon for almost 6 months.

Thanks for the response everyone.

So I've thought about paying for a dating coach or a PUA bootcamp one day, because I feel like I am in a very desperate position with very little to no options. How many people here have tried a PUA bootcamp and/or tried a dating coach before? Did any of them ensure any significant degree of success? If not then I don't want to have to waste my money on any it as I know that they are very expensive. I would appreciate it if a bunch of people who have done any of it before could let me know.

The more important question is does she have a sexy bubblebutt?

Today was another day of feeling so down and frustrated. No one at my gym have offered to hangout with me. No matter where I go, I can never find new people to meet up with on a regular basis. Society is really fucked up. I am starting to hate alpha males. I am so incredibly jealous of them. It seems that no matter what I do or how hard I try I may never be able to solve this area of my life. Yes I know that when it comes to dating, sex, romance, and friendships there are no guarantees that I will ever get good with women or with people in general; however, alpha males are able to guaranteed themselves that they can get any kind of girl they want and as many cool friends as they want. It's fucked up, especially considering the fact that I've worked so god damn hard on this and the most popular guys out there have always had it easy!!! Not to mention that I was promised by my psychologists, social workers, and a number of coaches that I will get good at all of this. What a load of fucking horse shit this world has turned out to be! "You're doing great, Ross. You're getting better at this. You'll find someone. All you need one is one...blah blah blah blah blah blah." I've worked obsessively for countless trying to figure out what I need to change and I still CANNOT figure it out! Everything anyone here can suggest I've tried. You name it. This method, that method, taking a break from all of this for several months to a year, etc. etc. I am getting so tired of all of this! THIS ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Optimists such as Tony Robbins have mentioned that it's better to be an optimist even though pessimists are about 10 times more accurate than optimists. Even people like Leo have mentioned that you always got to visualize success in order to succeed at anything. However, Overconfident or cocky people are criticized for overestimating their abilities, making an ass out of themselves, and even possibly jeopardizing their own lives. Of course it's ideal to have a healthy balance of confidence and solid self-esteem along with humility. Though, I wonder now if it is actually better to be overconfident or cocky then it is to lack confidence because you don't believe that you can succeed at something?

There has to be a full proof method to making new friends. Someone is not doing a job at teaching us how. Yet, people like us wouldn’t have to keep comIng back to forums like this one or keep going to stupid social workers and shrinks and suffer through torturous self-criticism which of course diminishes our social confidence. I mean I wouldn’t mind analyzing myself if it lead to me figuring out exactly what I am doing wrong for certainty and lead to noticeable progress (unless I was close to our genetic potential, thereby having almost reached my limit of improvement). However, what’s the point of self analyzing so much on what you’re doing wrong if you can never figure out what the solution is and can never find a really good social coach (which seems extremely difficult to find and afford)? For several years of my life I’ve constantly tried to figure how the fuck to improve my ability to make new friends to hang out with and once in a blue moon have I ever been to find one that I think is really cool. Dating coaches say gay it’s a great idea to make friends with attractive girls to increase your social circle and have them hook you up with attractive single women hey are friends with. However, I’ve tried that many times and it never worked. I mean WTF?! I feel like guys like me have been lied to about having a hopeful social future.

I thought that was primarily a dating book. I don’t think that there are any books out there that can help me.

I've tried multiple meetups and hobbies, and I only found one good friend to hangout with and that was only a few years ago. I haven't been able to find even a cute I am attracted to who would go out with me for more than a second date. I want a short-term relationship, but I don't know where to go. Should I cold approach random people to get good with people socially too? Please help me too.

Thank you all very much for responses. I thought they were all definitely good, especially yours Aurum. Yours was excellent. I think this really help me out a lot.

I know that Leo and some other people recently gave me great advice on my previous on how to improve my dating and sex life on my thread "I just got banned from a pickup forum." However, I realized that I still keep getting contradictory advice on how to be successful with women. I want to believe that what Leo and others like him said to me before, which was that " You're not approaching nearly enough." However, I've been told by others that I should be approaching no more than about 20-30 girl per week and that I am probably approaching too many. These guys think that that could be the reason as to why I am getting so frustrated. They believe that I am over investing too much into this and just going through the motions, without ever stepping back and taking a good hard look into what I am doing wrong. Therefore, they think that I should approach less girls and do more analyzing on what I've been doing wrong. For example, this guy: Obviously, analyzing your mistakes after making a certain amount of them is important, especially in the long-run. Also, yes the quality of each approach is important as well. However, I am not sure who to believe or follow because of all the contradictory advice. Sure, I could just try one way and see how that goes; however, what if I end up wasting so much time making so many unnecessary mistakes that could have been put to better use on a truly effective method for dating and pickup? Hell, I already feel like I've wasted so much time with almost all of the approaches both warm and cold that I've ever made and have virtually every pickup and dating method out there from A-Z that was supposed to work. It's so frustrating. I wonder what people here, including mods like Leo, have to say about this.

Ah ok, that makes sense. So then, it sounds like coaches like Hayley Quinn and her team either don’t exactly know what they talking about or perhaps didn’t do a sufficient job at clearly explaining how to much to approach as a beginner. I mean they did say that u should approach a lot per day as a newbie if you have approach anxiety in order to get COMFORTABLE with talking to new girls. However, from what they told me regarding how much to approach AFTER u get comfortable enough with cold (or even warm) approaching random women, they basically told me that I should do less volume and more analysis on what could I’ve have done better. They also also were like “don’t be like a door to door salesman trying to approach a high volume of women and knocking on doors until someone says yes. Be more like someone who displays a great art piece in an art gallery. Though you had me convinced with your response that that way sounds good in an idealistic manner, but very likely won’t ever work for beginners because doing it that way will give them insufficient and inconsistent reference experiences for them to learn from. So, all in all, to get the best results you of course need to do both mass approaching and analyzing your mistakes. However, it’s always better to just do mass approaching alone (especially as a beginner) then to just do self-reflection on each of your approaches when you’re only doing a minimal amount of approaches per week every week per month per year.

So then why have some coaches like Hayley Quinn and a couple of her associates said that they believe that I am over investing too much into this and feel like I am just going through the motions, without ever stepping back and taking a good hard look into what I am doing wrong? Why do they think that I should approach less girls and do more analyzing on what I've been doing wrong?

I know that I need to put in A LOT MORE work on my cold approaching to get better at it and to improve my overall dating skills. However, as a hard case newbie like myself would trying to meet women I find ATTRACTIVE through social circles or hobbies not work for me?

With all due respect, that did not sound very helpful. You can say that you're just telling the truth and what have you, but I do not see how it was appropriate and relevant to the topic and advice that I was looking for on this thread at all.

I know, but it’s like no matter where I go, I can never the right match for me. So how can I fix this for sure?

I just wanted to respond to someone who posted on one of my last threads who showed me the Youtube video on realistic daytime statistics from Tom Torero. It does give a fairly good rough estimate on how good even the best guys at game are. Even this guy who has worked with Kezia Noble and her team have agreed with him on the stats of the game. I've talked to Hayley Quinn and her team, who are another company of British PUA and dating coaches, and one of them said that 90% of cold approaches won't lead to sex and dating. One highly experienced student of Gunwitch, who has over a decade worth of successful experiences with game has mentioned that at least 80% of women will reject you, regardless of how good you are at cold approach or with women. Gunwitch, who is virtually one of the best PUAs in the world, has an approach to lay ratio of 1 to 5. That means that the best that Gunwitch has ever gotten for a same day lay or same night lay or instant lay was that for every 5 girls he approaches he fucks 1 of them. Now if Gunwitch were to go on dates with women and try and take things slower (i.e. instead of meeting up with a girl on the same day he approached her, he meets her 1-3 days or about a week after he approaches her, then his approach to lay would cut down to about 1 to 10). This is because the more aggressive and thereby faster you are with women the more women you're likely to sleep with. Doing aggression screening will get you more noes (hence less dates and less numbers), but it will get more yeses, assuming you screen this way consistently with many women. This is a higher risk, but higher reward way of getting laid. It also take a bit of practice in calibration to get this right. Even Chris from Goodlookingloser has mentioned how much of cold approaching and dating is a numbers game multiple times on his Youtube vids and website. James Tusk in one of the vids he was in with Kezia Noble had said that you're gonna get a lot more no's than yes's if your main goal is to just get laid a lot. He also gave a realistic daygame statistics on his website, and his numbers are very similar to Tom Torero's. Corey wayne, has talked about dating and cold approaching largely being a number games as well in a number of his Youtube vids and articles on his website. Hayley Quinn has said that about 10% of the women you approach or meet in real life will have a great connection with you, be VERY attracted to you, and will be hot and sexy to you. So, if you rejected by most women then don't beat yourself over it. Massive rejection will always be part of the game, even when you get good with women. Btw, according to the abovementioned student of Gunwitch, he met Mystery IRL and said that even Mystery's approach to lay ratio was much worse than Gunwitch's. Also, there will always be virtually a lot of hot women to approach in any town you're, unless you live in a small town. In a large city, especially ones like London, NYC, or LA, there will always be virtually an infinite amount of hot women to approach during the day and night. That's it really move to or live very near a city like NYC, LA, London, Austin, Dallas, Miami, Vegas, etc. Every pickup and dating coach has said that it's best to move or be near a large city. Going back to the numbers game, any other PUA and dating coach who says that they can get you laid with most of the women you approach are lying. I think Leo would pretty much agree with all of this. Though I am waiting to get a confirmation from him on this.

Well, I am not sure anymore if getting help from any pickup or dating coach because it's like I worry that I will say something to piss them off when I didn't mean to. There is this female dating and pickup coach named Hayley Quinn. She didn't like it when I told her that she was being evasive with most of my questions or that I disagreed with her on something. It's so stupid because we've been taught by dating coaches to not be afraid of disagreeing with something, especially when we are the customer. She also thought that I made a misogynistic statement when I said "if she (the girl's friend) is not happy then fuck her. You're not supposed to give a shit about what she thinks." How the hell is that misogynistic when I trying to emphasize the idea that you shouldn't have to put up with the girl's friends' disapproval of you? She also told me not to mention death after I said to Oliver "I've been to several therapists and I still feel inadequate with women. Having said all of this, you're not alone, Oliver. We can and we will die trying." Boy, she talks about context. She really takes things out of context. Furthermore, she's supposed to be helping people with social issues. This is all so fucked up. What am I supposed to do? I've tried so hard on this for over 3 whole years and I am getting so hungry for good results, it's not even funny at all. People tell me not to worry about what others think or judge and yet I get banned from certain sites. Do not tell me that it's all fault because it won't acknowledge my thoughts and feelings on this matter. I've tried virtually EVERYTHING on improving my social skills and seduction skills and I keep getting more bad than good results. It's like I've been on this hellish journey to try and cure a terminal cancer I have, and so far there has been no cure or good treatment for it. I just tried taking a break from dating and pickup and socializing with others for several months and try to focus on my hobbies. Yet it didn't help me feel much any better. In fact, it made feel more powerless over the fact that I couldn't do anything to significantly improve my dating and social life. I've been trying meditation, but it still isn't working that much yet. I've been getting feedback on my approach, dating, and social reports and I am still stuck. I've been to therapists and psychiatrists for countless years of my stupid life and I am still stuck. God Damn it! I am so fucking tired of feeling the agony of failure over and over again without any significant progress.

Have u ever been to the US before? The various types of women of various levels of attractiveness. Some are not so attractive looking, some are just plain, some look cute or kinda hot, and some looking smoking hot or drop dead gorgeous.

Well I usually try to escalate physically as fast as EFFECTIVELY possible. After all, I am looking for just casual sex and I don't want to her to friend zone me. When this happens, most of the time I never hear from or see them again. Sometimes though, I've gotten makeouts and even laid. However, there have been a couple of times where after I did heavy petting with a girl or had full P to V sex with her, she would tell me days later that I wanted was sex or that I just liked her body. There have been a few of times when I try not escalating as much as I usually do, and the girl at the end of the date would just hug me, say her goodbyes, and then about a day or a few days later or a week later she tells me something like "I am sorry I just don't feel it with you. You're a good guy. You're just not for me" or "It was nice to meet with you the other day, but honestly I just didn't feel it. I wish you all the best" or "I am flattered that you want to see me again, but I don't think that we are a match. I am looking for someone with a stable career and is ready for marriage." There have been a couple of times when I try not escalating as much as I usually do, and I ended up kissing the girl at the end of the date, but then a couple days later has texted back by saying "Hey, it was nice to meet you the other day, but to be honest I didn't really feel a connection between us. Take care and I hope you have a better future" or has said to me "Hey Ross...thank you for sending me a massage. I think that you're a good guy. However, I was thinking though that we don't really have that much in common to keep in touch...sorry." With the girl who sent me the latter response after I madeout with her I replied back with "Oh, I am shocked you feel that we. I thought we had a moment right before we parted ways :?." She then was like "Yes I know, and it was a nice moment. However, I am at point in my life where I am looking for something serious and want to focus on that." My final response to her was "and exactly are you looking for?" Afterwards, I never got a response from her ever again.

Okay, well I've tried my martial arts place, my gym, and running club, and I've tried yoga a number of times. I've tried meeting all of the ones that I am attracted to in each of places but they either didn't seem interested in me or they flaked out on me after getting their number or they were already taken. I've tried meetups like Kickball, meditation, volleyball and trivia night at a bar, but I failed in those places too. I don't know where or what else to try that would be a good shot for me for to meet attractive and available women who would be interested in me. Also, I tried dating a couple of girls who I met from a female friend of mine. I got rejected after my first date with each of them. Yeah, so I don't know where to go from there.

Maybe I am still too inexperienced even after having approached about 1,000 girls in all kinds of venues for the past 3 years, which btw is much more than what 90-99% of men out there in the world have done with meeting women.