Hardkill

Well, I'd like to still believe what you guys are saying. Though I am still skeptical.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I have to disagree with you on that. A lot of times, there can be more than what meet the eye, especially once you get to know them. A lot of nerds, especially those who are very autistic, can look not very bright, but in actuality are highly intelligent if not geniuses.

I really wish they could do the inauguration this coming Monday instead of Wednesday.

Yeah, it's truly insane how the millions of MAGA people still don't believe that the election was really legitimately free and fair, even after the Trump legal team lost 60+ court cases down from the local courts all the way up to the US Supreme Court. Even after all of the state officials and the vast majority of the state legislatures within each of the contested battleground states did everything they possibly could to make that there was no widespread voter fraud, the crazy Trump supporters still don't believe it at all. Even after the DOJ from the Trump, the FBI, Bureau investigation agencies within each of the contested battleground states, the cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency, the police within each of the contested battleground states, practically all top military officials, etc, found absolutely no evidence of unprecedented widespread voter fraud that occurred throughout the entire country, the demented Trump Zombies still refuse to believe that the 2020 general election was in fact the most secure election in American history. So, what can our country do to restore faith in both our democracy and the legitimacy of our elections?

Yeah, I know what you mean. What if they televised a full auditing of all of the ballots in each of the contested battlegrounds? That's what most conservatives in the US are saying that the public did not get that. They believe that we deserve absolute full transparency.

Shit, I hope Michael Moore is wrong about there being a lot more riots and more danger ahead for our country. This is beyond insane.

What do you guys think about what this article says about having a real electoral commission to look into the 2020 election in order to restore faith in our elections and democracy? https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/01/06/2020-election-mistrust-commission-prove-or-disprove-fraud-column/4132191001/

Candace Owens has only a pea-sized brain. She seems to be a totally worthless person, except for her looks. She's essentially only good for jerk off material.

Do you believe in Bernie's political views more than Biden's?

It's really is ridiculous. It only takes a reasonable amount of common sense and a normal sane mind to realize that a normal guy like Biden beats an fascistic freak who absolutely either needs to be put into some sort of mental institution or in some kind of prison. Joe Rogan has a lot more knowledge and a better understanding of certain areas or fields than most people do such as business, success, discipline, comedy, combat, sports, fitness, diet, Hollywood culture, etc. Though, he's doesn't seem that smart when it comes to politics and probably doesn't know much about anything pertaining to highbrow subjects like science, math, literature, in-depth social science, Economics, Philosophy, Fine arts, Architecture, Engineering, etc.

Btw, in case you guys haven't heard or read up on yet, here's some bad news about how the majority of Republicans thought about the Capitol Riot:

Yeah! I was going you ask you what you thought about Joe Rogan opinions about Biden vs. Trump were. I too thought that he was going too far with his criticisms on Biden. He even criticized Harris too much for having been too "ruthless" of a prosecutor and not being trustworthy enough. His complaints with both Biden and Harris were indeed similar to those of what both Krystal Ball and Saagar Injeti said in their Rising show. In fact, here is this one video I watched several months were Krystal and Saagar were telling some raw truth about Biden back in March: Looking back, I now don't like that Rising did that vid. I really think it that vids like that were a mistake for the public to watch.

More goods news! David Perdue finally conceded as well. All that’s left now are to count the last approx. 1% of the votes remaining and then have the results of both of the Georgia US Senate elections certified.

to watch a lot more MAGA tears being cried out by Trump and every ReTrumplicans in there. Now, I am really curious to see what the Republicans are going to end up doing about this. They are now going to be suffering from the major political bind they got themselves in for a long time. Hehehehe..... He really has totally lost his mind. I can't believe he actually even had the gall to say "So, let's have trial by combat." Afterwards, he said on his twitter feed "The violence at the Capitol was shameful. It was as criminal as the rioting and looting this summer which was not condemned strongly enough by the Left. This violence is condemned in the strongest terms. Our movement values respect for law and order and for the Police." He absolutely needs to be disbarred and then lock up in an insane asylum ASAP.

I pray that Trumpism does die out. Though, I think you're right that the Trumpism movement will probably transform into another bad right right movement or faction.

FYI, Kelly Loeffler officially conceded her defeat to Warnock yesterday. Even though technically there are still about 1-1.5% of the votes to count, right now Warnock lead has grown to 1.8%. Also, there are still about 4,370 votes left to count from Henry county, which is a moderately democratic area. The only other counties that are still not quite finished with counting all of there votes are small republican ones including Peach, Fayette, and Ware. Each fo those republicans are really almost done, and if you combine all of the remaining votes together that they have left to count, then they have an estimated total of less than 3,000 votes left to count. So, the Loeffler campaign probably realized that all in all there's now absolutely no chance for her to win her race. Also, Ossoff lead has grown to a full percentage point, and his lead is still seems to be trending upward. So, Ossoff will end up winning his race with enough of a comfortable lead.

Well, it's really gonna interesting to see from here on out what happens to the entire Republican Party. I actually hope that it does get broken up in two separate smaller parties.

Some right-wingers have been saying that Trump supporters wouldn't have stormed the US Capitol if the media show enough transparency on the actual investigation of the alleged widespread voter fraud throughout the country. For example, they could've visually recorded on camera the entire audit/investigation of all of the election offices in every state throughout the entire country and broadcast it all through channels like C-SPAN and on news shows like 60 minutes. They also agree with the Joint Statement from Senators Cruz, Johnson, Lankford, Daines, Kennedy, Blackburn, Braun, Senators-Elect Lummis, Marshall, Hagerty, Tuberville which mentioned: "Voter fraud has posed a persistent challenge in our elections, although its breadth and scope are disputed. By any measure, the allegations of fraud and irregularities in the 2020 election exceed any in our lifetimes. "And those allegations are not believed just by one individual candidate. Instead, they are widespread. Reuters/Ipsos polling, tragically, shows that 39% of Americans believe ‘the election was rigged.' That belief is held by Republicans (67%), Democrats (17%), and Independents (31%)." "But, whether or not our elected officials or journalists believe it, that deep distrust of our democratic processes will not magically disappear. It should concern us all. And it poses an ongoing threat to the legitimacy of any subsequent administrations. "The most direct precedent on this question arose in 1877, following serious allegations of fraud and illegal conduct in the Hayes-Tilden presidential race. Specifically, the elections in three states-Florida, Louisiana, and South Carolina-were alleged to have been conducted illegally. "In 1877, Congress did not ignore those allegations, nor did the media simply dismiss those raising them as radicals trying to undermine democracy. Instead, Congress appointed an Electoral Commission-consisting of five Senators, five House Members, and five Supreme Court Justices-to consider and resolve the disputed returns. "We should follow that precedent. To wit, Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states. Once completed, individual states would evaluate the Commission's findings and could convene a special legislative session to certify a change in their vote, if needed." "We are not naïve. We fully expect most if not all Democrats, and perhaps more than a few Republicans, to vote otherwise. But support of election integrity should not be a partisan issue. A fair and credible audit-conducted expeditiously and completed well before January 20-would dramatically improve Americans' faith in our electoral process and would significantly enhance the legitimacy of whoever becomes our next President. We owe that to the People."

Well, it's about damn time he did it.

OMG! What happened yesterday at the Capitol Hill was surreal! However, I have to say that I knew that something like this was going to happened. I was worried that the law enforcement would end up not adequately securing the building and every Congressmen in there against any possible serious threats made by any of the protestors. The military and the police didn’t even do a good enough job with controlling the protesting that happened outside of and around the building. Also, where the hell were the large groups of policemen and the national guard before this crazy shit got totally out of control? Did you guys also see the pics of everyone who vandalized the entire building? Unbelievable!

All of the mainstream media organizations have now finally called it for Ossoff! Also, he's now definitely out of the recount territory! Yeah, I've been hearing from progressives like Cenk lately that Dems should in general be winning these kinds of elections, but they instead have most of time been feckless. Though, I still don't fully understand why they suck at framing and branding compared to the Republicans and why they negotiate too much with them. This is why I made that thread "Do Republicans actually campaign better than Democrats?" If you don't mind, could you help me understand why this is? Oh yeah, there's no way that the USA is overall even close to solid Green or beyond. Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the country largely range from being Red to Orange? Yeah, the rural areas and the privileged yuppies areas (where I grew up in and have lived in for almost my entire life) have always been the most politically regressed parts of the country. Though, I would still say that the rural folks are in general not as evolved as the rich yuppies because the rich yuppie areas are have much greater highly educated per capita than the rural folk areas do.

Warnock will be totally safe from any recount possibility because he already won his election by a 1.2 percentage point margin when it was called for him. In fact, it looks like his margin of victory will continue to grow ever so slightly even with approximately 1-1.5% of the votes left to report for Warnock and Loeffler. "According to Georgia law, if two candidates are within a 0.5 percentage point margin or less, either one is able to request a recount." https://www.vox.com/22216363/georgia-senate-runoff-recount-rules. So that race is done. Now as for Ossoff even if the results of the Georgia Regular Senate Runoff Election (which is the one between Ossoff and Perdue) determine that the results ended up being within the recount territory, it will still be extremely unlikely that a recount will ultimately change the outcome of that race, given how much ahead Ossoff is over Perdue now. The difference in total votes between Ossoff and Perdue right is about 18,423. The initial count where Biden defeated Trump in Georgia was by around 14,000 votes. This was before the state of Georgia did the two completely thorough recounts for that state's presidential election results, including one hand recount followed by the machine recount. After both of those recounts were 100% completed, Biden ultimately won the state by 11,779 votes. Furthermore, if I recall correctly, according to the history of all U.S. elections, recounts very rarely if ever change the outcome of any election when the difference in votes ends up being around 5,000+ votes.

It is very sad. I have to say, that I am frankly ashamed that this has been happening to our country. Even more so is that I am worried about what the long-term ramifications will be for America.

Dude, being tasered is much less damaging to anyone than Being tasered is much less damaging to one's body compared to the damage anyone would receive from a shot from any kind of gun or even compared to getting hit really hard with a billy club by any trained cop.

You know, I could be wrong, but it looks like there may not even be a total of a million Trump protestors out there by the end of the day.