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haha, i tried it, but i just stop the alarm and go back to bed. and i do have a routine, i just dont. overall i think the solution is to go to sleep earlier.

if i had any friends or interesting things to do i wouldnt sleep that much

but i sleep 10 hours

I interacted with a few people who told me that they heared thoughts that didnt feel like it was their thoughts, involuntary thoughts. they came off plants, objects, other people, etc. it usually happened during a psychedelic trip or after a trip and various meditations. One interpretation of it, is that one reaches high enough level of consciousness to "hear" objects, etc. This possibility is possible, but not probably in my opinion. The much more probable explanation is that the mind stopped identifying with certain thoughts, but thoughts involuntarily keep coming. In my opinion it's a brain malfunction as a result of doing things which are against its nature, like psychedelics and certain meditations. This becomes a problem, because in some sense, we can control the thoughts, in daily ordinary consciousness at least. I feel like I can stop thinking for a few seconds if I will to. Those thoughts are intrusive and are interrupting daily life, because they take much more attention than ordinary thoughts. Also those thoughts are often presenting ideas which are delusional. I wonder, if I had that problem as a result of taking psychedelics, as I see it as a common occurrence, how could i possible deal with that aside from letting them be and ignoring them? a person i talked to takes psychiatric drugs to calm these thoughts.

by nature i mean evolution. sure it's not accurate 100% but it explains a lot of things. it's not accidental that the brain is in the way it is right now. it's true that it has great elasticity, but that elasticity is limited in time. if too much change occurs in a too short period of time, it might damage it. also it's important what the status quo is, because you originate from that status quo, and if something radical happens to you, of course it would scare the shit out of you and you wont be able to handle it well.

I feel like music is a very powerful tool to deliver a message to people, to ease their pain, to give them insights, but i doubt my abilities. i dabble in music here and there, i have the so called "musical hearing", but its not extraordinary, i play the piano, but very poorly, not professionally, the same in guitar. im 20 years old and i feel like i lost my timeframe in order to be really great. being just average wont cut it, because average musicians get kicked the fuq out. i have to be freddy mercury/ed sheeran/viktor tsoi/metallica level or nothing. most people start playing music seriously at a very young age, and if you dont play from a very early age, you have low chances of success. your probability to be successful and to play well is decreased exponentially with age. also i dont know if my voice is any good. my range is pretty limited, but i havent trained it much, so i dont know. also my voice sounds ugly to me, and i have a weird accent. it is said that you have to take your strengths and build on them your life purpose, and my strengths are creativity, critical thinking and curiosity, its more leaning towards philosophy, science and (my major) physics i guess. maybe i could also utilize them in music but obviously "the talent" i dont posess. as a kid i was always fascinated by music and the piano and i felt like it was really special. now i obviously dont feel that way but people say that to find your way you need to look back to your childhood. what do you think?

*im not talking about myself, im talking generally I am talking specifically about loneliness, lack of interaction with people. no friends, no girlfriend. Most people get depressed, because it's in our genes to be social. can one really go beyond those needs? and if he can, how the fuck can he do that? I think it's like eating or getting sunlight, you can't just stop eating, the same way, you cant just stop having social interactions and "get over it". That is only true i guess if one still believes he's an ego, if the ego fades, i guess loneliness cant be. But as long as I believe I am an ego, I WILL experience loneliness definitely, if im not exposed to social connection for long periods of time. edit: actually, maybe if the ego fades the body could potentially still experience loneliness, is that true? I think it could be the case. I feel energetic pain when i lack human interaction, it's not just mental.

obviously, i have to know who they are, etc. but there is also new information coming in which is not of my mind, and thats what counts.

both what i meant there that the mind doesnt trigger the loneliness. the loneliness changes the state of mind

what's present in awareness i meant thoughts, feelings, judgements. i meant it's not like "i" feel them, but they're just present

what do you mean?

the mind opposes to this activity of mind because it desires for the reality to be the best it could be. it wants to figure out how it can be the best off with least delusion and closest to truth. edit: that's also not the problem, the problem is, is there a state of mind in which im not interacting with people, but the state of mind is positive.

I would describe it as a state of mind, which, yeah, I am aware of, though in this state of mind, the thoughts are functioning differently, there is no desire to do things that i planned to do. The problem here is not whether i am suffering or not or whether im identifying with that state of mind, but what i am able to do and how i think and how i feel and what are the judgements about the feeling, etc. edit: by "i" i mean what is present in awareness

definitely, that affects my whole mental frame, like when you're really hungry you cant do anything but look for food

Very honestly, loneliness for me comes without even the involvement of the mind. it just happens when im not interacting with people. i put the label 'loneliness' for a certain unpleasant feeling and mood which i have. it's like hunger, i feel the feeling of hunger when i dont eat, same with this.

I am often thinking how would I act if i encountered a suicidal person, what would i say. and tbh i have no idea how i would go about it, i dont see any reason to stay alive from a perspective of a suicidal man. enlighten me please

In order to perceive beauty you have to be deluded, here's why: Say you see a flower. it's shapes, colors, maybe you can smell it or you can touch it and hear it. There is nothing in these perceptions that is "beauty", therefore beauty comes from your beliefs about the flower. Those beliefs aren't grounded in anything, it's empty stories. if you believe those stories so much as to perceive "beauty" and "awe" you are deluded by definition. if you take psychedelics and look at your hand and see beauty, you're deluded. if you look at a painting, and you experience beauty, you're deluded. if you see beauty in existence, you're deluded.

@cetus56 cool But only the mind can change it, therefore i have to play the mind's games. didnt understand what you mean. I will check it out

@cetus56 did you experience it or something like that?

why? it's still stories.

ok, i got it, that's new. but i got a new problem- if if know something isn't real, but i choose to appreciate it, the appreciation is less intense than if i had believed 100% it was real. Like when stuff happens in movies and in real life, you experience much more emotions in real life. so with that in mind, love is the same, it's also a delusion, the source of love, not the feelings of love, which are real. But the thing with love, is that it's unintentional, you cant control when you love and when you dont love. so if in your subconscious you know that love isnt real, you wont feel it, because for true love to be felt, you have to be deluded it's real, it's that kind of feeling. like you cant force yourself to be sad or happy by sheer will.

but that is because I forget it's not real, if i am conscious the whole time it's not real, i cant appreciate it. this is what happens in real life to me, if i get glimpses of beauty, habitually it's getting shot down because i know it's not real.

but my problem with it then, is i cant appreciate it, because i know it's fake. and everyone here including Leo always talks about appreciation of it.

a healthy fast is with water and supplements

it seems like everyone is praising your results, but aren't they bad news? i mean inability to think and bad memory is making you less effective in the world. not talking about your internal state, but what you can give to society. sadhguru always says that you should experience life fully, and not in a dull way.