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@Nahm i am also currently doing trifinity academy enlightenment courses and that's much more important to me, and i also soon to start a university semester so that combined wont leave me much time at all to work or to complete the course, which is why i plan to do it in the future.

i see at a lot of retreat posts that one of the main rules is to not interrupt/respect/dont raise hand to ask questions etc. why is that so? i mean, i understand why it would be mandatory for normal people, who would get annoyed, disfocused. but why is it so with people with great emotional mastery? when I read the rules of retreats, I feel like people come there to praise the egos of the masters, like - "they're giving their own time to teach you for free so you should respect them", why would the masters care if i respect them or not? traditionally, respect is for people to feel good about themselves, I simply dont get that point. why is it that i can ask my professor questions during the lecture but cant ask an "egoless" master a question during his talk?

@cetus56 i kinda got to it, but it faded back and forth and i wasnt really sure and needed clarification, thanks for your answer!

ok, so as i thought i guess its for the other people that listen, thank you

@Martin123 wew, thank you man, your previous comment triggered thought that made me break through something i've been stuck on for a while

@Martin123 yes, what i meant was mindfulness. what do you mean by realizing the distinction between sensory and mental worlds? arent they all the same in the field of awareness?

obsessing about this stuff is alright as long as you apply the concepts in everyday practice. I was also "addicted" but as sage_alias said, it goes away with time. I would suggest to stay away from stuff that involves beliefs, because that's what our work here tries to undermine, so the best i can say is to think for yourself using the concepts you gained from your obsession.

i dont know if i have adhd, but sometimes i find myself reading something and i have to read it a lot of times before i understand the meaning of a sentence, that's why i generally dont read books for fun. I also sometimes cant understand what people are saying while in conversation though this is more rare. but most importantly, i started trifinity academy courses not long ago and it seems i sometimes cant do the exercises they present. it's like im relaxing my thoughts for example to be present and i just disconnect, i dont feel present, i just feel nothing at all, and then thought comes back. does concentration/meditation help with this? im really struggling. i feel like a trifinity lesson that could take 15 minutes to read, takes me about an hour or more just to understand the text because i have to reread sentences always and see what its pointing to.

ive had a few breakthroughs recently (if you can call them that) and im pretty confident im not the body nor the person thats sitting inside my head, so a problem arose- how do i continue from there? i still think i exist, because im aware of stuff, but not as a person (or i just think im not). i've beaten the "im not my thoughts" dog to death, when i ask "who is aware?, who is feeling?, who am i?" i just dont get responses because i auto decline already what i thought about a shitton of times. i still feel the sense of self (i guess even enlightened people sense it if they want to[maybe]) but im aware its just a facet of presence.

in america i feel people feel scared of black people or muslims because they see what "these people" can do. to them its just more likely to get stabbed by a black man than by a white woman, because thats what they see around them. when people will see other stuff they will perceive in a different way. so how do we solve it? I dunno, however it seems to me like it will go away with time as different races just mix together and it will just become the norm.

@Shiva check out this topic of mine and the answers i got

of course, that's not what i meant, what i meant was seeing what you DO have in terms of knowledge and embodying it

@Shiva so to sum it up, basically "comfort" is what you're talking about, right? "im living good enough so i dont have to take it too seriously". i think that's the ignorance and embodying knowledge part. if you would know really how good it would be, constantly, you would take it seriously. what do you think about that? do you think it's more or less it?

@Privet true, we are ignorant, but what i meant is that there is a minimal "good enough" level of non-ignorance that is required to do the work with less force. sure, the less ignorance the better, but we gotta get there somehow still, i think its more about embodying that minimal non-ignorance level and from there the ignorance is going to decrease exponentially.

@Privet I think it's not REALLY ignorance, because i think a lot of us in this forum understand more or less that this is something exceptional to get. The problem here i think is embodying that understanding. in a bunch of areas in life we have "glimpses" of wisdom and we say like "aha, i get it, this is important YEAH LETS DO IT", but then later you dont feel that and its simply forgotten. the knowledge is there if we dig deep enough, but then the hole closes sometimes almost instantly. the question is how do we get it out and splash all over the surface so it will always be there (or at least when it is needed).

like all other things in my life, the extreme feeling that i dont want to do it, in other words that i have to force it to start it, in other words that it doesnt feel natural to start doing it (may be described as laziness but im not sure). dunno how to get rid of that except just continue forcing it until it becomes "natural" didnt happen yet.

i mean, if you saw the goddamn thing, why cant you just come to it again?

yeah, I agree, i think i understand what you guys are saying but thats not what i meant. in order for the body to not do action, it has to force it because the default mode is to do something.

@Shin it's in a different context, "i" as a sense of the body, the body goes through the process.

@orroz but the "I" does all the self inquiry and stuff to get there in the first place.

i guess it just makes the process longer for beginners because cant concentrate, but it goes away with time.

most of the stuff like that is probably just speculation with no proven benefits. i'd say go for the stuff that's known to be beneficial like meditation.

i guess I understood somewhat, it's because people often call enlightenment "realization". usually we realize stuff intellectually, so if we realize something, we can understand the thing by the definition of realizing. on the other hand, enlightenment is an experiential realization and not an intellectual one. it's like winning the lottery, you gotta get all the numbers right to win the prize, the numbers being the circumstances at a time. but in that case, isnt enlightenment just brain stuff? in that case does it really answer our existential questions? can we trust that experience?

@elias you are your stuff SHIIIIIII

@Anna1 wow, good one, thanks