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@tsuki are you a math student? you use a lot of mathy words What I got from your post is that there is another way to live life, which is beyond meaning, this life simply happens when you exhaust meaning, and realize its limitations (though what limitations meaning might have ive no idea) is that right? in that state you can also have meaning and meaningless meaninglessness. What I guess is in order to get to that state I have to inquire myself out of all meaning, including the meaning of wanting to get to that state because that meaning is baseless. though i dont know if its practical because its too much inquiring, the meaning map i have is way too complex and deep i think to get rid of in a lifetime. I guess I have a "why" for getting rid of meaning but as I would start to, that why would fade because i would realize its fault, right? @cirkussmile I think I do know better what I want because im trying to break out of the self deceptions ive entrapped myself into. maybe meditations and yoga helps, though apparently I dont know what being present means yet, because I always have the background noise in my mind.

@Highest how can there be beauty and fulfillment in meaninglessness? its empty! it shouldnt be fulfilling nor beautiful, just empty. @tsuki I get that, but why should I go after meaningless meaninglessness? why not enjoy this life, even if it just appears like I do? because of this ? is that better than enjoying life? (talking from my perspective now, obviously nothing matters from the empty perspective)

i don't know if it is so. without any desires life would be empty, there will be no fulfillment, there will be nothing, just as well as being dead. sure, there would be no suffering also and no desire to resist that nothingness but nonetheless i dont see the point in that. i also dont agree that there wont be any fulfillment with desires. ive had plenty of fulfilling times in my life and i had desires at the same time. if i could increase the intensity and frequency of those fulfilling moments, combined with a balanced mind, i think i could call that a fulfilling mind. sounds much better than 'nothing' i also dont see how can one life without desires.

@RoaldKamman the point of the post was more if its important, not how to achieve anything. and i dont go anywhere where girls are at, im always alone. and i live in a place where not much is happening.

i think you cant be fully yellow if you cant see from green's perspective and feel what green feels.

I see any meeting with girls as manipulative, there seems to be no other way around it. I am indeed always in my man-cave and I never get out, except when going out with friends, which is extremely rare. If I would go to a bar or a club or any other place where there are people I would go there with the only motivation to meet women, I dont have any other motivations, and that's manipulative. In order to approach a girl I have to come up with some reasons and be manipulative, and not say the real reasons because then she wont be interested, because it seems desperate (and it kind of is, if im going to a bar just to meet women). so in order to get women I have to be manipulative, which I rarely am and if i am, i catch myself. men who dont care about being manipulative get all the women. also how can i be authentic and manipulative at the same time.. I guess the only options for me to meet women is accidentally, but I never go to social places because i live in a small town, which doesnt have many social places at all, the nearest club is 20km away and i dont have a car and its outside the town. I even searched meetup.com and there are no relevant events for me in the near 50km. Even if I find social events most people there are 30+, while im 20. most events where people my age to to are at least 50km away, at least of which I have access to. also a lot of events cost a lot of money. I go to university and there are some women, but they're at least 6 years older than me and a lot are married or taken. but then theres the question where are all the women my age? they gotta be somewhere. mostly in the army since its mandatory here, while im not yet, and if they do go out they go to private parties with friends. my guess is most of them are stuck at home watching tv shows or being on social media. maybe im hiding something from myself but it seems like legitimately i have no clue about how to go about this.

@WelcometoReality I understand, but I dont think thats the kind of presence I was talking about. What I meant more is to be aware of the present moment, not really concentrating on something. like paying attention to the breath while going on a walk.

@Echoes but theres a difference between that and being aware that im present @Arkandeus actually i think my inner compass is broken, all of that stuff are just desires, i dont feel i should necessarily go there

@Paan personally i freak out because there are no legit explanations what so ever to the reason of the techniques. just here are the practices, do them and something will happen. if you're openminded enough to do the techniques it means youre also openminded to the possibility of it fucking up your energy system or whatever so you will go apeshit crazy, psychotic, have nightmares, have extreme mood swings and a bunch of other shit. the reason I say there are no legit explanations because the explanations that are given are talking in a language that i dont understand. like "energy", "channels" ,"chakras" im just supposed to believe if i concentrate on a chakra something will happen, there is no why, there is just "it will happen".

why do you assume that there is a place called "hell" and that egos go there? and how could you possibly get an answer to that?

he clearly said "how do you get there?- I dont know" and you assume a bunch of stuff like you would have to die in order to get there. leo's point was to be more openminded, not to start believing stupid shit. the answer is YOU DONT KNOW, and probably will never know so theres no point in wasting time regarding those subject, go meditate or something instead. how do these people know the place they visited was hell? it is their own interpretation, there was no label "hell". whats more probable is that those people experiences psychotic episodes, which seem as real as this reality, and they say after they got off it "ive been in hell, everything religious fundamentalism says is true, go worship god".

hell is not a place you go after death. ITS A METAPHOR for the awful life you can have if you do certain things. for example you "will be in hell" if you kill people because you will FEEL BAD. you will not go anywhere after death because you are not who you think you are. people often misunderstand that concept because of the dogma of religion.

@Mart nadi sodhana, ujjayi x6, kechari stretches x2 sets, mahamudra x3, om japa x6 silently, first kriya pranayama x12, 8 second breaths.

but what is considered half assing? how do i know if what im doing is good enough? i know i dont follow the rules "dont masturbate at all and if you have sex have sex only once every 2 weeks" which lahiri proposed. also my mahamudra is bad, because i cant extend fully my legs.

In this video sadhguru says that learning yoga in a "non committed atmosphere" like from a book, classes, etc. does more harm than good and it by doing that one "misses the opportunity of touching other dimensions of life". What do you have to say about that? All this yoga stuff for me runs on pure beliefs. I just believe that some spinal breathing will bring me some results. but here's a point from a yogi that I respect and believe most, which runs against this practice ive built up with beliefs. I cant make decisions on my own when regarding yoga because i dont know anything about it.

other people tell you stories about how you acted? are you ever violent or something? how long does it last?

by "come back" you mean delusions, hallucinations, paranoia, etc?

isnt it dangerous? and what do you mean by energy?

why would it come back? hasnt it been treated? and what do you mean by control it? do you mean you can tell when you're deluding yourself or something?

maybe you're right, I dont know him very well, seemed like it from a few videos i watched.

@Highest holy shit, did you treat the psychosis? do you take medications?

I feel like simon sinek is very yellow, the way he analyzes stuff and presents it. in this point of the video he explains why people get angry at CEO's, he seems pretty neutral about it and he gets to the root.

what do you mean by immortal and why does it help? why do i need to stimulate the pituitary gland and the top of the spine? and what do you mean by "stimulate"? why do I lose prana? isnt it infinite? do I lose prana through the throat?

if for example I will do a whole year only self development work, meditating, yoga, balancing energies, getting my mind in order and become extremely peaceful, ecstatic, blissful, loving, etc. Will I continue to be like that after I come again to the "ordinary life"? suppose I keep practicing and trying my best to be present and such. Will I start to get upset sometimes? will I start to suffer? will I get out of peace and bliss?

what do you guys think about kechari mudra? should it be used? what's the point of it? is there any danger in increasing the length of the tongue?