Tyler Robinson

I understand that. But withholding and bottling up what I feel is bad for my emotional health. So I feel like spilling out whatever I feel. If it brings more trolls, it doesn't make a huge difference either way because if I don't talk, there will be trolls It's like if you commit a few murders, more murders aren't going to change the jail sentence. Bad has already happened. What can be the worst thing anyway? Just not live in fear. That's better

I think both systems are possible in one place. Divide the forum into two zones, low consciousness and high consciousness, we do that here literally anyway given the rivalry ridden nature of this place. We can have the best of both worlds. The high consciousness zone of the forum will enjoy Bill Gates technology. And the low consciousness zone will be happy to experience equality of outcome, value and status. I'm sure the high consciousness elite of the forum would not be able to resist peeping into the low consciousness zone. Enough now no more replying, I'm taking disproportionate space in this thread and I don't want to take up so much space here. Be merry.

I don't feel welcome here. It's once again the same thing. The same creepy negativity.

The thing is that everyone comes to the forum with their own stage of growth, there's no universal stage here. You can't expect everyone to have the same growth curve, but despite that this forum is a place for everyone to experience growth wherever they are at, and not just a particular privileged group of people. Allowing only certain people to hold space is elitist mentality and not high consciousness. There are all kinds of people on a personal development forum and they are at all kinds of stages. So you'll obviously find low consciousness people in the same place and it makes sense why everyone should feel welcome. It's not a frat party. Nobody should feel like they are not accepted here. This is a community not a competition.

Actually this is not a good idea. It's demoralizing and creates a favoritism problem. It's like everyone supporting one user and their posts whereas others feel discouraged or left out. It creates social hierarchies similar to likes on Facebook. Some users will get arrogant as they are favored over others.

But there's a problem. They don't seem to be attracted to women. If they had secret affairs with women, it would have been a different situation. I think this is somehow linked to shaming masturbation in religious communities Since they are less likely to do it out of shame, they probably lose attraction to women over time. Maybe they then replace this attraction to women with children. They simply aren't interested in women at all. This seems to me like a brain chemistry problem that could be resulting from shaming masturbation Of course masturbation is a cope. But it's a healthy cope than indulging in deviant tendencies. Also a lot of people just don't have access to sex for whatever reasons, religious or otherwise, so here we are, masturbating is the only viable option in the absence of sex.

Could it be possible that masturbating less than normal is causing these religious clergy men to not be attracted to women anymore.

Maybe users who disagree can make their own threads. Less hostility, disagreeing and fights and more harmony that way.

Further elaboration on the same subject - In hyper religious communities, a certain trend is observed. And this trend is pedophilia. Sexual attraction to children. Could a dismissive/negative attitude towards masturbation have links to this deviant sexual tendency. I remember Leo saying in the "burning through your karma" video, about monks who would be celibate for years and then in their older years they would have all these sex scandals and deviant sexual behaviors because of years of sexual repression and how repression contributes to that. I think masturbating is something like burning through your sexual karma..

I wish there was a way to make the ignore function actually work better. What's the point of ignore if the person who you do not wish to talk to can still continue to talk, and more importantly shit talk about you. I mean the human mind is going to be curious to know what that person is talking about. This does not remove or solve the hostility issue of the forum as some members obviously do not get along with each other and nothing can be done about it. I mean there's no real mental peace option. And the other thing that doesn't allow mental peace is the chronic problem of not being able to control who can comment on the journal. Some people enter a journal and write some rude/mean things and there's no way to stop them. And you don't want to report each and every person or you feel bad because you don't want them to get warning points. So if it was something you could just turn off certain users from commenting then the journal becomes an automatic safe space. This can be extended to threads on the forum, if someone is repeatedly annoying or trolling your threads there should be an option to not let them comment on your threads anymore. Less drama, hostility and conflict that way. Another user has resonated my opinion regarding journal comments - And for the love of god being able to control who can post in your journal or even blocking everyone from posting in your journal. Personally I don't care about this, but others do very much. Overall the forum has to have resources to deal with hostility and conflict management better. Because a lot of members are discordant with each other and this dislike fuels a lot of unnecessary drama, if there was a way that mods could dissipate such conflict without warning points. Even public or open conflict resolution between members with a mod hearing from both parties is an excellent way to reduce all the shit talking and personal attacks and fights. Mods simply lock threads or stop such discussions rather than allowing some sort of resolution between conflicting or fighting or discordant members. There should be like a restraining order system. If you don't want someone talking about you, they should get restriction warning where every time they talk about a forbidden user they are automatically restricted from posting or auto - ban. Constantly asking mods to stop personal attacks or constant reporting is very exhausting and doesn't solve the issue. My biggest concern on the forum is that there is no mental peace because you are forced to fight with people you want nothing to do with. It's simply not possible to completely avoid users that you want zero interaction with and if you have to ignore them then there should be an automatic condition that the user is not allowed to talk about you, mention, quote you if you aren't talking about them. It gets extremely difficult and pretty useless to ignore users who are still going to be talking about you, if you can't stop them what's the point of ignoring them. The only thing that you can't see their comment but the whole forum can see it so it's hard to control the drama that spills from it. I just wish there were better drama control mechanisms on the forum that quickly dissolves all the drama. I have a huge problem with this forum. I see a ton of users here who just come here for gossip, chit chat and drama. They use the forum to talk about others rather than for their own growth. For an introvert like me, it's a total nightmare to watch. I guess these people can be told to do something better with their time rather than use the forum to stimulate drama and gossip. Maybe they can be given a zero-gossip chat option. Because they use the forum as soap opera entertainment, just chewing on stories of others. It will reduce their posts and maybe create some peace on the forum. Overall better options to reduce drama, conflict, gossip. Remove the time limit on posting in personal messenger so people can feel better chatting privately. It takes away the load off the forum and chatting won't spill into the forum that way. There should also be a public chat option as many users have said here, it really helps control posting. You can simply chat with people who you wish to chat with and that way the frequency of posting will automatically reduce and you won't have to deal with forum bullshit. Each member be given a public chat button next to their name so they can respond to chat instead of opening threads on the forum and the option to transfer forum threads to these chats so there are personalized conversations and nobody is having to deal with threads they don't want to see. These chats should be visible only to people who click on the user and wish to participate in the chat and it shouldn't be visible on the main forum. So a lot of the bickering about excessive posting or people whose threads you don't want, stops. There should also be an ignore option for threads. So the threads you don't want to read, click or participate are automatically removed from the list of any subforum when you click on it.

I feel like it needs more studying. You'll see instances of sexual abuse in hyper religious communities. You have to wonder why. Also these same communities are very strict and puritanical regarding ideas of masturbation, they make it look like sin just like they do with porn.. At least one can live without porn. But I don't think you can live without masturbating because that's the most natural outlet for sexual desires that mother nature has created. It's almost like saying "don't sleep" or only drink little water. If drinking little water eventually makes you feel dehydrated, you realize that depriving the body of its most basic need causes the body tissue to lose strength or nutrition. Dehydrated skin looks very different from healthy skin. I have found that dehydration even leads to hair loss. And sometimes tiredness. If dehydrating the body has such awful consequences, can it be possible that not masturbating is similar to dehydration but in the more mental psychological sense as in psychological dehydration. It could be that this impacts brain wiring and probably causes such psychologically dehydrated men to act in different ways, probably more aggressive, maybe it automatically makes them hate the opposite sex because they are deprived of creating a mental connection with the opposite sex through the sexual route. You have to take into consideration the fact that when we masturbate, the body produces endorphins, thus the sight of the opposite sex gets associated with something positive in our brains automatically. How would the brain react in the absence of such association. Imagine that the sexually deprived non masturbating guy looks at an image of a woman but there's no chemical reaction or endorphins in his blood, it could be that the image of a woman produces disgust rather than relaxation, at least no positive association is happening. So more research is needed on why and how lack of masturbation for long periods of time impacts the human wiring or sexual chemistry related wiring in the brain and how this altered wiring impacts attitude to the opposite sex.

Practicing masturbation in a healthy manner is far different from being addicted to it. Just like any other habit, our sexual habits too speak a lot about us.

Respect is not the same as simping. It doesn't take much to respect another human being and decent people know this.

Thanks. Maybe. Busy right now tho.

I know very well what you're trying to do. Next time don't deal with me. I don't need to talk to people like you and waste my time. Goodluck.

Me developing thicker skin on what issue? I meant the people who get reported, developing a thicker skin and taking a warning as a message to think about their behavior. It is much easier for me and does not require me to write so many messages just to find myself burned out and the other person not changing their mind. I have been forced to develop a lot of thick skin from people criticizing me on all sorts of issues. Yeh, it is hard, but does any of them invalidate you as a person or feel like a personal attack, or make you afraid of sharing who you are or what your perspective is? I force myself to endure perspectives here which I disagree with because I don't want to create an echo-chamber. I hate to break it to you, but the echo-chamber is already here. The echo chamber is that of privileged conservative people, because the atmosphere here that allows biased perspectives to be freely shared makes it so that people from marginalized groups are hesitant when sharing their perspectives. Can't you see how this is obviously the case? Do you see anyone sharing books about gender, sexuality, race etc. that are kind of different from the general rhetoric here? I really don't, this place seems like a very intellectually homogenous environment. Our general policy here is to control speech here as little as we can get away with, so that diverse perspectives are shared. I don't like blocking any perspective unless it is clearly toxic or in bad-faith. Or is just misinformation or dogma. However, because of the fear that this "free speech" creates, diverse perspectives are not shared. Put yourself in the shoes of somebody who is worried for their safety everyday and then try and imagine being on a forum like this one. You really would not feel like sharing your perspective here, you would run the hell away pretty quickly. This is already an echo chamber. - - - - - Anyhow, if you find content here that disturbs you, let me know and I will investigate it. If I think that it's harmful/toxic I will remove it. Thanks BTW, we issue warnings to people every week for vulgar posting. So it's not like people will get away with that here for long. Any genuine racist, homophobe, sexist, etc. will eventually get banned here. We have banned dozens of them. Thank you for banning those people. However, if you think that saying that there are 2 genders, which is literally both psychologically and biologically wrong, because there are more than 2 sexes and they are not just a versions of man and woman, is just a perspective - to what lengths do we want to tolerate people arguing for these lies? If I say I think Asian people are less intelligent because of some biased experience or that women enjoy being paid less because of something else, which I have no proof for, do we also tolerate that? Or is this targetting specifically trans and nonbinary people? Because that's what I currently feel like it is doing, the limit for what is tolerated, what perspectives we are willing to listen to here, is higher than other groups, because of double standards and transphobia. 2 genders is not a perspective, people are denied control of their bodies and freedom and so many other horrible things because of this ideology, and cultural cleansing was practiced on cultures with more than 2 gender because they were like this, there is generational trauma around this too.

Low level high school bullying. Keep it up..

Yes weirdo, please tell me I'm male. Disgusting. Thanks for insulting me. I don't understand how this doesn't get classified as bullying.

Leo's response. Me developing thicker skin on what issue? I have been forced to develop a lot of thick skin from people criticizing me on all sorts of issues. I force myself to endure perspectives here which I disagree with because I don't want to create an echo-chamber. Our general policy here is to control speech here as little as we can get away with, so that diverse perspectives are shared. I don't like blocking any perspective unless it is clearly toxic or in bad-faith. Or is just misinformation or dogma. - - - - - Anyhow, if you find content here that disturbs you, let me know and I will investigate it. If I think that it's harmful/toxic I will remove it. BTW, we issue warnings to people every week for vulgar posting. So it's not like people will get away with that here for long. Any genuine racist, homophobe, sexist, etc. will eventually get banned here. We have banned dozens of them.

Okay, just throw all nuance about human diversity and it’s complexity out the window. Protection of people is not a thing about complexity and nuance, it is quite clear what it means to protect people. Read some stuff about victim blaming and consent. 11 hours ago, Carl-Richard said: Look outside of your own perspective for a moment and see that neither the "high consciousness" people nor the trans people on this forum necessarily agree with you. You have taken a very contentious issue and made people's existence on here depend on it. I don't think that is how warning points should be used just in principle, let alone that it would eventually decimate the amount of people on here. As I said, I ban less people than Leo. I maybe banned like 2 people in my entire career as a moderator. The other mods ban way more often than myself. You all are just thinking that I ban a lot, because I give warning points (and then take them away), but I actually mostly ban spammers. Instead of using warning points to do that, you can concede some ground to the opposing side so that discussion is possible, and maybe you'll persuade some people in the process — you know — what Leo was actually talking about in that blog post. Threatening someone's account with the hope that they might agree with you is power abuse. Could you do that for me please? It is not my responsibility to speak about my validity like every day you know? You also do not need to do that to remain a valid person. I am not abusing power, just read the guidelines. Also if you give warning points to someone in your moderation options, and you select hate speech, racism etc. the number of recommended points for that offence automatically increases to quite a lot. Just saying that it is not something I made up, it is already in the system. Again, I tried being nice to people, it does not work you all are just speculating and gaslighting me and victim blaming me, stop it. You know if you all created a safe space for trans people, maybe you would receive more articles like this that are actually pretty awesome and a lot of people could learn from them. They seem to address a lot of the problems with sexuality people commonly face here. I will share one that I like. But if you prefer a political echo chamber of conservative perspectives instead, sure. . https://www.vice.com/en/article/jpy7g7/i-was-a-slave-to-testosterone-how-sex-changes-for-trans-women-on-hormones

I think you lack in empathy. This does not mean or make you a bad person. But you lack the maturity or understanding of someone who is in deep trouble and extremely vulnerable. And it feels like you are taking their suffering too lightly without comprehending the extremely complicated nature of human frailties and situations. You make it look like everything has a simply quick solution when people might have struggled with the same situation for years and still not find a way out. It's not as cut and dry as you make it out to be. This tells me that you haven't spent significant amounts of time in the company of someone who is deeply suffering and not put much effort to see where they come from and why they suffer. It's very easy to blame a person but very tough to understand and empathize with what they're going through It's simply not that easy or cut and dry. Not black and white

Sometimes I feel like cursing this place using black magic because I endured so much abuse in this place. It's just wasn't worth it. I wish everyone who abused me suffers in deep private hell because I was completely innocent and I was constantly targeted and cornered.

This was all I can remember pushing back against. I think that people can have their opinions about what a man or woman is, and say it and they deserve respect about it even if I disagree or see more nuance and relativity. I think it’s dangerous and unfair whenever anyone questions or have different views than a or queer trans person that they get shunned, silenced and accused of hate. This, in my opinion is unfortunate over reactions of a culture which is at times over reactive and hypocritical. It is always us getting questioned and we also get silenced, so don't argue like this, you are making a fool of yourself. Having a different opinion on trans and queer politics because of your world view isn’t the same as being transphobic. I think there’s nuances there. No there are not. Equal rights for everyone is the only acceptable option. Nothing less. I am anti transphobic and anti hate and discrimination. But, I also see nuances and I don’t want the transphobic accusation to be weaponized just because we all have different views. I’m still contemplation, observing this. You can read what I think about this gross double standard above. Your kind has been ruling the world and everything is built around your fragile ego to please you everywhere in this world, so give us some space, thank you. I will always stand up to a Mod who thinks their world view is the only way to be. That, anyone who thinks else wise is to be silenced with warnings points. I never even said that I am literally just following the forum guidelines. What I was pushing back against is that one Mod thinks something is transphobic, and then gives warning points. But , is that person truly be transphobic and discriminatory? At the time I didn’t think so in that context and didn’t think it fair. It is in accordance to the forum guidelines to give warning points for shitty behavior. What else would they be for? Queer and trans people don’t run the world and Cis gendered straight people also deserve to share their beliefs in public discussion without being attacked and canceled. We live on a diverse planet. Just because a Christian believes in Christianity doesn’t make him anti Semitic. There’s nuances here. Bro no, cis people do run the world actually, and that is exactly why queer and trans people need to share their view. The cisgender view is already ingrained so deeply in everything, just look around yourself and question your ignorance. I know your going to label me as a bad evil person. No, but I think you are making some ignorant claims. But, I don’t think a man, woman, trans person, non cisgendered person etc who sees reality in a certain way, who disagrees with someone else’s world view is inherently hateful. But it can still cause emotional damage and there is like nobody speaking up against it, do you see how that is bad, at least a little bit? You may not be ‘seen’ by some people. But, also why are you so weak that you need EVERYONE to see you as you want them to. Yeh, I am actually so weak that I can withstand people like you questioning my identity. Cis guys every day prove their masculinity to everyone by acting so masculine, and cis girls by acting so feminine, but for you it is easy. You can marry whoever you want, have the body you want, have the kind of relationship you want, walk around safely, walk to bars without getting killed etc. You said a lot in your post that DOES however make me reflect and want to communicate better on the forum. I am glad, can we talk about that instead? I would be happy to answer any questions you have, I am just really tired of people at this point. I am sorry I have so much anger in me, but my life really is not easy and it does have to do with my identity. And if you approach me from a place of curiosity that I recognize clearly, I will answer anything you want (almost). I am one of those trans girls who is not afraid of talking with others about transitioning etc. so you can ask.

@bejapuskas I agree that I don't know what its like. I'm just trying to provide a perspective on how you can be more effective at achieving your goals. I don't know if you still don't get it, but I tried your approach - it does not work to be nice to people. If you are a trans girl, or even a cis girl, any girl really, people will not take you seriously, even if you are nice to them. Speaking plainly, I don't really care whether your anti whatever. What I care about is the actual effects of people's behaviour. Just being anti something does not mean you are helping, sometimes you can be hindering the very goal you are going after. That shows how you privileged you are, not having to care about people's opinions all the time. You know for me it's a matter of safety on daily basis where I live. What you call actual effect on people's behavior is just your speculation. You are still assuming that being nice to people achieves change more easily but it does not. I am like this exactly because I already burned out from trying to be nice to close-minded individuals. If you don't trust my claim, I don't know what to tell you. For example, if a discussion on race realism gets banned is that good? Maybe the discussion stops. But maybe the poster feels alienated, and leaves forum, and joins 4chan instead. And on 4chan he gets radicalised further into racial hatred, and gets more and more people to join his 4chan space. Which leads to a black person being harmed. And if you are someone who encouraged the banning then imo you are partially responsible for that person's radicalisation. Maybe you consider that the effect of having the discussion actually has the consequence of harming a lot of people too i.e. an african american dude ends up feeling increased feelings of shame and fear, and on the balance of things you decide that the consequences of getting the discussions banned would be better. This is again just speculations of what happens. It is victim blaming. It is saying that the discrimination is the victim's fault. That she could have done something differently and then she would not face the hate. No, trust me, I tried, does not work. Try dressing up in a dress and go up to people and see how seriously they tell your philosophical arguments. They won't. Have you actually seen somebody joining 4chan after getting banned by me? I rarely actually ban people, even the neo-nazi guy I just put him at the border line ban, where if he does one more thing he will be out of here. I mostly ban serious spammers. Do you ever think about the black person being harmed here by the people questioning their validity, their intelligence, their everything, for the same of some dumb "serious philosophical discussion?" Like come on, there is no serious discussion happening and you see, both I and Tyler Robinson got harrassed here and so did many more. We are also people, we have feelings and we feel hurt in the space you are creating at this very moment by being so defensive of your fragile privileged ego who does not want to realize that people are actually victims and still tries to find some logic behind violence. Sure, go educate the oppressors, but don't silence us please, we are not guilty for our own hate, thank you. And it is also not our responsibility to advocate for our own safety and security. It is the obligation of those with privilege, they have more emotional resources than us, they are not constantly told to toughen up because people are dumb out there. African American dudes already feel shame here and so do others, do you think seeing a running discussion about race science does not trigger that? You bet it does. Its a complex thing to think about imo. And, I think righteousness is an indication of not understanding that. On another note, I'm not that interested in reading those articles at this time. Why are you not interested in that? Because they would question your privilege? Are you afraid of actually questioning your biases rather than just going to this forum and talking to like minded people all the time? Fine, you can watch the movie Bending the Arc or maybe the Netflix show Heartstopper instead if you want some entertainment.

Mods here keep saying that there's a report option but nothing is ever done about those reports. Okie, I need to share some perspectives here regarding this thread and its important and very personal to me. First of all there are too many people who act like jerks on the forum and go out of their way to insinuate others. And this problem is never sorted out fully. ...........