Tyler Robinson

Thank you for your encouragement Joni.

Thank you so much Devin

Whats that?

That makes sense. That's one part of Blue I really appreciate. However, blue is too expansive (both healthy and toxic) to only function as a blocker for red. Blue creates sustainable systems. These systems are highly volatile in their nature, how you use these systems will determine the outcome..

Let's imagine reality as this nightmarish supernova that no alien or parallel universe can penetrate. Another hint - you are living in a parallel universe already. This universe is military grade protected. If you tried to understand it, you will only reach one place - infinite consciousness.

@Oeaohoo I think you should take your mental health seriously. Do you have friends to reach out to? Sending you love. <3

@thisintegrated what are these other dimensional elements?

I always feel like the healthy aspects of Blue are long gone, probably reminiscent of the Industrial Revolution Era where people worked hard in factories to build a living for all. Much of the Blue today is very bureaucratic, lazy, religious and deeply steeped into corruption and social politics. I can't imagine healthier versions of Blue because every industry and agency has been besieged by greed and capitalism, nefarious corruption. Where's duty and obligation anymore? Marriages have already crumbled.

Watched that guy a few times. I like his views on criminal justice.

Maybe an SF? Omg I must have triggered the heavens. Beejeesus. How about a sweet tempered INFJ?

You're being so cruel. You only follow INTJ lol. please be a bit generous.

For a minute I thought you were also going to write their MBTIs next to their names.

Gotcha.

I think Discipline can also be learned through ethical principles of behavior towards each other where you decide that you won't hurt the other party. That's how gentlemen have always been. As for protecting your loved ones, there are jails and courts. We ain't living in a jungle.

And what about the guy who gets hurts and injured in a fight? He doesn't have family or loved ones? Isn't it best to avoid a fight when you can?

Very wise! I was actually making similar points a while ago on this thread.

Why is it necessary that guys should have a ton of women drooling over them for them to take a spot as a role model? Jordan Peterson has a healthy family life, married a woman he fell in love with, traditional style. He is not going around chasing women, but he had a great career and a good head above his shoulders. Isn't that enough? This new alpha male epidemic (likes of Tate) have been spreading this new trend where your worth as a man depends on how many women want your tattoo on them. Sounds too egoic, insecure, cheap and less grounded in healthy Masculinity.

I posted something in our journal. Slacked a bit on this. Will post some other day.

This part is closer to toxic Masculinity. I don't like to see men fighting with each other. Let's not treat men like animals.

@Max_V but one can integrate and embody elements of higher stages. This is a desultory, higgledy-piggledy kind of a process that gets you there, it's not necessary that you have to be perfect at any stage, you could still embody elements of higher stages with half ass integration of the lower stages, nobody is perfect whatever spiral they're at, I'm mostly at green and my comfort resonates much more with green than any other spiral stage, maybe I'll understand Blue better at yellow, right now I have a ton of Blue shadow that im not ready to drop anytime soon. Btw thanks, it was a fascinating conversation with you, learned a lot from you and others, I'm running short on time so I might have to let go here. You guys have a great day!

Yup. I get what you're trying to say. Those people might not take ethics seriously if they're a weak stage Blue. But I've read somewhere that as you move up the spiral to Tier 2, you begin to loose your grip on the lower stages and these stages begin to get less relevant since survival itself begins to appear as an essential commodity of existence and higher consciousness at these stages means letting go of survival and all its trappings and focusing on the nature of infinity.

Yea I do.. But the thing is, that these excesses are not as harmful as the toxic side of Blue. I fail to see how green excesses compare on the same level as blue toxicity. As you go higher the shadow aspects and excesses become less dangerous as compared to those of the lower stages.

I wish I could own a certificate of my human rights. Umm, I'm looking around but can't find it.

Oh wow that's creepy, the hair on my back stood up, instant anxiety.