Cepzeu

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@Ineedanswers Sure thing. You can gain depth of knowledge in the same way as you can draw a bigger map as you explore some new territory. But God realization is realizing the territory is real and the map is a concept, not drawing a bigger and bigger map. If you want to do science then you can. If you want God realization, you will have to realise that you will not get there though concepts. You can study and investigate science for infinity, but you will never get to truth through it. No matter how long you spend thinking about molecules then atoms then quarks then strings the space-time etc. It won't change the fact that those are all illusions. You can make your life easier by discovering new technology and advancing science, but that is different to realizing what's true. Inventing penicillin allows more people to survive bacterial infections. It does not change that fact that people, infections, etc are all an illusion. To answer your further questions: 1) yes. They are all illusions. As is everything. How can e=mc2 not be an illusory concept. Theories by definition are conceptual models. I can theorize that the sun will rise tomorrow. What will actually happen is unknown. The point of god realization is differentiating what you think about something, with what it actually is. Look at your hand. Now realise that what you are looking at is not a hand. Hand is a conceptual framework you overlay over reality, such that when you see the thing that you see, you think hand. But it is not a hand. It is something that words cannot communicate because all language is dualistic. The best descriptor is "it is what IT IS" but that sounds silly until you actually LOOK and realise that what it IS is not what you THINK it is. Stop thinking, and look. 2. There is no difference. The scientist is just as deluded as the theologian. You have never seen a big bang, or a planet formed, or a black hole, or a DNA molecule, etc. You have been told these concepts from a young age and you blindly believed them, just how a religious kid got told about Adam and eve and believed that story to be true. You hand is not made of skin and bone and atoms. It is made of consciousness. It is as clear as day yet you will not be able to see it. You are a fish swimming in water and you can't see the water, because it is all there is. That is the pickle you are in. Again, do not confuse the ability of science to create things that help your survival, with what is actually true. Science is no truer than religion, despite the fact that with science we can make an iphone etc. It is a "better"/more accurate map of this dream, but is cannot make you see the dream as a dream. 3. They are just building the dream with more concepts. They are making the map prettier and bigger. You are God, you are the only thing that exists. You are the dream. Everything is dream-stuff. It is ALL an illusion. Including this.

@Ineedanswers This is a misrepresentation of what god-realization achieves. All of those things you mentioned are conceptual illusions that your mind spins. God realization is recognizing that you create all of these concepts. Measurements do not exists. Science does not exists. Future and past do not exist. Black holes do not exist. You have not awoken yet to the reality of concepts in the now. Here is an exercise. Point to the problem you are describing. Use your finger and point to the problem you are talking about above in the now. Recognize that all of those things do not exist as "things". They exist as conceptual constructs. It's easy to see how the future is a conceptual constructs in the now. But can you stomach recognizing that your birth is a conceptual constructs in the now, and never happened. When you say it happened in the past, recognize that the past is a conceptual construct. Then stay awake for a whole night, from sunset to sunrise and recognize that the lines between today and tomorrow don't exist. Or better yet, take a psychedelic and realize time does not exist as anything other than a mental concept. You have NEVER left the present moment. You have never left the now. You literally created a conceptual world in which you live, but you are asleep to the fact that you created it. At deeper levels of consciousness you recognize your creation of even "physical" things. You grossly misinterpret what the teachings are pointing to. I am not saying this to shame you, I'm merely making a statement so that you do not get lost in the wrong interpretation. You can't predict the future because there is no future. Reality is here, now, forever. You never leave NOW. So how can you expect to get to the future. This requires a 180 degree change in your point of view. You do not travel through time as a person. You are God, Now and "stuff" is changing around you. You interpret that time has passed but this is not the case. The now has simply changed. Stay awake from sunset to sunrise and realize that you never went from yesterday into today, you were always in the now and all that happened is that some numbers changed on a screen or on a clock -in the now. Numbers are changing on the clock IN THE NOW. Time is a social, conceptual construct.

@Leo Gura Only the now exists. Only consciousness is. Pure everything. Nothing outside of "it" as "it" is all of it, forever, nowhere. Nowhere nowhen noone other than all of it. God is Mind is pure Love. Any perceived other, past, future, concept, or even self is a dream dreamt by Self/Me/God "within" the Mind of God, which is all of "it", now (and never). It's/my power is so infinite that it created itself from nothing, nowhere, nowhen. A perfect strange loop. An apparent duality within The All so that God/I can experience its beauty through a story/dream. Why? Because there is nothing else to do. There is no escaping because there is nowhere to escape to. I am so powerful that I made myself forget the Truth so that I could live in illusion as "Cepzeu" and believe that characters like "Leo" etc. exist and have their own inner experience, however this is all an illusion to keep myself asleep to my true nature. Why? Because Love. Correct?

Great investment in my experience. Way better than a hand. Takes a bit of effort to clean and dry though and you can get through a lot of lube. Feels same/better than real sex. Had no regrets buying one

I love the ability to take energy in different forms and how that can be transferred into motion in things like cars, bicycles, trucks using engineering. Really random, but this has always fascinated me all my life. It's pure magic.

Unfortunately not the case. lot of 'science' work is boosting your social standing in the scientific community, publishing as much research as possible to get your numbers up and shitting on other scientists. Behind the facade of innovation it's all a poo-throwing contest. There is fame and fortune in science because a large number of post docs are battling for very few professorships and tenure positions. It is completely and utterly corrupted by monkeys throwing poo at each other and climbing a popularity ladder to look innovative. I've seen how this plays out in universities and research institutions, which is why I quit it. Also, a PhD means very little. Lots of people with PhDs gotten from following the system in university are dumb as shit and their lives are super dysfunctional.

There is stage orange science and stage 'above-orange' science. Most scientists are still concerned with materialism and commercialism. Most scientific endeavours are done do discover a shippable product, even in the biological sciences. Truth is avoided in order to get studies published quickly. Universities do a little bit of primary research, but even that is done just in case it can be used for business later. Science at most universities is purely pragmatic and business oriented. Neil deGrass is 1 in a million scientists. Not because he is special but because of what his aims are. He is a celebrity. Most scientists are working on shippable products, patentable ideas etc. Edit: trying to separate business-orange and science-orange is a very big trap which fails to see how money-driven science is. Current science is not focussed on truth, but money - for institutions and private laboratories (e.g pharma). There is value in separating orange science and above-orange science etc. But current science is very entangled with orange-level business.

Makes no difference :). if you step on a shit, there will still be shit on your shoe whether you believe you are in external reality or whether you are imagining all of it. In the land of absolute, imagination = reality. All of it is imagination, but because there is nothing outside of it, it may as well be reality, in fact it is, because there is nothing else it could be. It is all one.

Great trip report! Sounds like it was incredibly profound. I believe I'm also quite sensitive to it as I had a similar experience on 100 ug. The difference with mine is that I had an ego death and it only lasted maybe 15 hours. I've also retained the ability to communicate with my higher self /god. It's still present and I can access it at any time. Psychedelics are incredibly healing, especially if you had emotional trauma in your past. I also felt like I was finally given 'permission' to be myself, and it was Me who gave it to myself. Brought tears to my eyes. Namaste

Such a good read! Thank you @Emerald for your posts. As a guy who has gone through the whole pickup/attraction thing and grew to love himself, I agree with a lot of your points. For me, healthy pickup can be summarised as healing your past trauma aka giving yourself the love you seek, and then being authentic to your personality. With these two "internal" qualities achieved, you can go out into the world and experience it. That experience (in terms of attracting women) just involves interacting with lots of people. There will be people who you are just attracted to for a variety of reasons. It's not logical, although objective factors do play a role. Then you pursue people you are attracted to and see if attraction is reciprocated. If not, then you move on because you know you can't force attraction (and doing so by playing outside of your authenticity only harms you because you will attract women you are not compatible with anyway). In this way it is a bit of a numbers game because you are seeking a situation where both parties are attracted to each other, and this is ok. The beauty is that you can just be yourself (assuming you love yourself and are being authentic) because there are many people who will be attracted to you just based on your unique feature set. This frees you up from being needy because you no longer see rejection as a harm to your self-worth, you see it simply as incompatibility - a triangular hole doesn't feel upset that a square block doesn't fit into it, it just keeps searching for a triangular block. You could argue that there are some qualities you can develop that will improve your chances - and you can - e.g. leadership, tonality, eye contact, but a) being authentic and loving yourself tends to autocorrect those anyway and b) there are girls out there who are more "masculine" and can lead in the relationship etc. or like shy guys. The biggest fix to attraction problems is loving yourself and who you are - not trying to manipulate women with a fake persona that you think will attract them. Ironically, once a man loves himself and is authentic, things like social ease, money, reputation, healthy eating and exercise will come about - a result of self-respect and self-love. People entering pickup with low self-esteem see these external qualities as the goal to achieve, missing the whole point of developing your "inner" self love and core confidence. It often takes a few successful hookups to recognise that the thing you are chasing is not women's attraction, or sex even, it's the realisation that you are lovable as you are. This comes the most when your pickup play was authentic and you weren't trying to play a character. @aurum would you agree? I know you are interested in this space.

OK, thank you for your replies

Sadhguru often talks about how he only sleeps a couple hours a night. Anyone tried this with success? I assume it has something to do with low energy wastage on thought - from consciousness work. I feel like I only *need* 6 hours, but often sleep 8-9 habitually or for pleasure.

While true, vasectomies should be thought of as irreversible due to the low success rates of reversion. Although sperm can still be harvested through the scrotum at a fertility clinic, so children are still possible.

@SaltyMeatballs unlikely. Cheaper to pay min wage than to buy and service robots or pay license for AI. I did a summer job at a paper factory where I was basically employed for min wage because it was cheaper than buying a conveyor belt

Healthy relationships come from self-respect. Girls will dump you if you don't stand up for what you want. It's not about being something that you're not... It's about being you, unapologetically. If they don't like it they can hit the road. That point of view will make you happier and keep girls around because a) you're not pretending to be a "cool" guy, and b) you have boundaries, which shows you respect yourself.

Follow the advice of your doctor. And it you want, buy books and look at other resources while you wait on the list for surgery. Don't count count on alternative therapies to cure you because cancer can be time sensitive. A small tumor that can be cured with a simple surgical resection can grow and metastasize to your organs in months. By all means feel free to look up alternative resources. But don't take medical advice from people who are not doctors. There is a reason training can be up to 20 years. Drinking celery juice and meditating won't cure your tumor

Love is seeing a child give another crying child a hug Love is seeing your sister become a mother Love is seeing your parents decline cognitively over the years Love is holding your girlfriend as she experiences a panic attack, feeling her lose herself as she trembles in your arms Love is seeing your mother cry when she stands at the grave of her father, who she didn't get to say goodbye to Love is looking into your father's eyes and seeing his realisation that he wasn't there in your time of need Love is not being able to get out of bed because you're lost and don't know your purpose in life Love is seeing a resident at a retirement home, surrounded by family, and then seeing another, all by themselves in the next room, knowing that no one visits them. Love is seeing your grandma forget who you are because of dementia Love is being lost by yourself Love is seeing your friend, a once-active young man, now wheelchair bound cradling a beer in his hand, watching his friends play the sport he loved so much. Love is when you tell your girlfriend you want to break up, even though you know it will crush her Love is hearing a mother recount the day she held her baby for the first time and saw it smile Love is hearing a mother recount holding her stillborn baby and caress her, as though sheltering her from the world. Love is waking up in the morning and hearing the birds chirp Love is feeling the first sip of coffee in the morning Love is waking up before your partner, and giving them a kiss as they sleep Love is listening to someone who is venting, and not offering advice back Love is the regret you feel after fighting with a loved one Love is when your crush doesn't know you exist Love is when you tell your parents how you truly feel Love is when your dog rushes to the door as you enter, eager to see you Love is when you see yourself in others Love is when you know what it's like to be in another's shoes Love is when you realise you are God Love is when you realise why everything is so - because LOVE LOVE IS LOVE IS ALL OF IT Love is...

wow! great summary! thank you very much

They're unrelated because being sober/drunk and pumping and dumping are mutually exclusive. You can pick up chicks during the day and pump and dump. you don't need to claim anything. It is evident in your writing: "I just feel like this forum has lost track of these higher integrity ideas, and is behaving like chimps, which is all fine and gravy, I only see a problem with it when we are students of "high integrity" putting in no effort to screen girls for long term compatibility before sleeping with them, and boasting about "lay counts" and how good your "game" is and how much of a "high value man" you are, which is only "high value" from the perspective of a woman's survival, so really the term "high value man" is synonymous with douchebag, as your spending so much time and energy to please women to get vagina, you could spend that time pursuing consciousness work and life purpose (which is the greater good for society and our communities and takes up a lot of time and often conflicts with your sexual interests). "

@coca Mate, you're stitching a Picasso canvas right here. Completely unrelated points and strawmanning. I can see why people stop responding to your threads. And you went and made a general comment into an ad hominem. You're making an ego out of being high integrity. Nobody cares what you do, just do what you wanna do. It all goes full circle anyway. If you don't like the lack of integrity on this forum, feel free to start your own. Go and approach girls during the day if you feel that is a more pure game. Most guys don't do game. they get drunk and fumble around until a girl shows them some attention and then they hang out. You're making an argument out of nothing. You just want to be right and morally superior on an online forum. You aren't capable of seeing the bigger picture of how everything interconnects and how everything is exactly perfect as it is. You just want to play argument games and pick apart everyone's response and incorrectly call them out on tactics you use yourself.

@coca Look man. I don't know you, but from what you write it shows you don't have a lot of experience with just going out and vibing with people without a sexual intent. Lots of normal guys are scared to cold approach girls during the day, it's not socially acceptable. You open yourself up to rejection, so few guys do it. Its the norm to not approach. Hence, alcohol. What's your point? Girls shouldn't drink so much as to lose themselves and make bad decisions? Maybe they should join us sober guys at the club haha. If you're consistently ending up with loser guys because you got drunk and went home with someone, that's on you lol. Lots of guys regret doing stupid shit and getting into fights when they sober up. Are you saying we shouldn't drink? but then you say we can't go clubbing because if we don't drink we're creepy? There are inconsistencies in what you desire. Society is not high consciousness or high integrity. You can't map Actualized.org onto society, it won't fit. This is a very niche community. By all means, don't go have sex and focus on higher values. But don't be surprised if you look back on your life and realise you missed going out and having fun with everyone else. In the end you're all alone . Do what you want and be what you want to be.

@coca yeah but you can go to a nightclub and have a drink and not be blackout drunk. The majority of people will be drinking but only a minority of people will be drinking excessively. Leo advocates for going out and socialising, and not drinking cause it's bad for your health. You can still talk to people who are tipsy lol. I don't see why its such a big deal? Will there be a few random predators and a few super wasted girls, yeah maybe, but most people are there to have fun and socialise. Literally no one cares if you're drunk or if you're sober. Sober drivers go to hang with their mates all the time... what now that they're sober they can't flirt with a tipsy girl and go have fun later?? rape = not ok. having fun sober and with others and engaging with someone with their consent = totally ok. I just get the general vibe from your writing (and it's just your writing I'm not saying anything about you as a person, I don't know you) that you think everyone in a nightclub is either a wasted drunk girl or a creepy predator pickup guy. a nightclub is 99.9% random normal people having fun. I could be wrong about my assumptions about you, but in that case you need to have a look at the way you communicate through text, because multiple members have mentioned thing's I've said previously, which you called projections. That's just my observation, I'm not criticising, I don't know the real you.

Yeah I agree that that is creepy. But if you don't drink, then not drinking in an environment where people drink is actually high integrity haha. But no, jokes aside, you are right in some sense that a big difference in your level of drunkenness with your end-of-the-day companion is creepy. But as long as they can consent then its fine. I'm not sure there is such a thing as legal rape, I could not find a definition with a google search, I'm not sure what you mean. If a person is drunk enough to where they are inebriated and can't consent and a sexual act happens, then yes that is rape. regarding screening, Leo mentions it heaps. But I imagine the point of screening would not come up frequently in an online forum topic about picking up chicks. You have to understand that people asking such questions are young guys with next to no sexual experience. Long term compatibility is not even on their radar, they just need their needs met, and pickup is how guys who are not socialised properly do it. It's not their fault, per se. It's the society we grow up in, where we expect guys to lead and know what to do, when we don't even bother teaching them in school. A sick society breeds sick people.

The only specific example you used is what Leo said. The one you quoted in the first post. There is nothing he said that showed he goes around preying on drunk girls - in fact he specifically mentions that he doesn't like drunk girls. You don't mention any other specific examples in this thread. What's wrong with gong to nightclubs to practice game? That's literally what nightclubs are for. If by example you meant the general vibe of the forum, then unfortunately you come to the realisation that without going out and gaming for a bit and realising it's not very high consciousness, your consciousness doesn't grow. You can't upload your high consciousness into someone else, you can only guide them to fuck it up and learn from their own mistakes.