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100% man. I’ve been doing this with not only Leo’s content but a fair majority of previous information I consumed. You will also notice changes in how you convey these topics equally. Insight is not binary. It relies upon a sufficient recipient through which to receive it. Unfortunately, the conventional is linear and unable to operate beyond bias. So many details and nuances are missed purely by the fact the mind is harshly contorted prior to any development. This will be let go of the more you open up. Your appreciation for this work will then come to fruition.

Good luck man! Let us know how you go. I’m interested in possibly doing a trip of this size at some point in the future

You are trying contend the paradox of something and nothing existing at the same time. The “something” you believe in is the mirage of the relative human experience. The “nothing” you are struggling to contend with is consciousness - the space in which that “something” occurs. You are trying to use the relativity of mind to understand the non-duality of existence, not going to happen. Hence, why you are straining to reconcile a past the mind believes in and how it integrates into the illusiveness of consciousness, in which ultimately no past or future exist.

Cannot say I’ve experienced this exactly. It seems that the mind struggles back and forth when experiencing infinity. Just a bit commentary in response to the passage. Immortality is not what the ego-mind thinks it is. It is not some endless repetition in which one is stuck. It is an infinite transmutation from one thing to another. Infinitely potentiated, moving and morphing between innumerable possibilities. The ego fears immortality at the core as it undermines living a life. Life does not exist through the lens of mortality since nothing began and nothing will end - life relies on time. So in other words, immortality is incomprehensible from the perspective of the ego and will be deemed negative. Beyond ego, it holds no preference. One must transcend the ego to appreciate the possibility of immortality.

Sam Harris is not as sadistically insidious as you have stipulated here. I do agree, however, that he is extremely naive and myopic and really suffocates spirituality. Though, you have to consider his position. He is a stage orange scientist not a mystic. He cannot he expected to exemplify high levels of consciousness since the paradigm from which he functions is inherently limited and deluded in itself. He is doing okay for a stage orange dogmatic scientist. He just requires more radical insights so he can ascend more openly. Personally, I’m not really a fan of Sam Harris as he is too mainstream and mechanical. Almost like the CNN of rationality. However, for those who need an introduction to basic mediation and mindfulness he may be helpful. One should then dispose of him quickly once they realise the limitability of his material.

Leo is not the first to exude such wisdom. Many others have as well, the problem is you won’t find them in a conventional society. Fir example, Greek philosophers, mystics, sages and even some early scientists. Leo has an abnormal level of desire for discovering insight, far beyond that of an ordinary human in a conventional society. The average human lives an average life by the mere fact they consume whatever is readily available. To be extraordinary you must do extraordinary things. Go places others have not, ask questions people are not, learn things people are not. Ask: “Where and what is it that everyone continues to overlook?” This is possibly one of the most powerful questions you can ask yourself. Simply by the fact you will likely discover areas to explore many fail to consider. You do not require some magical rare skill. You simply require a real inquisitiveness and curiosity for life.

Agreed. I really want to do a vipassana retreat myself, it’s trying to find the time. Ideally, mediation I feel is best done alone however. I haven’t actually, I might actually do that. I haven’t read many books on mediation itself. I’ve read more nondual and consciousness books that cover it intermittently.

Longer sessions provide you more time to get familiar with awareness and the activity of mind. You see the minds relentless fascination with thoughts and the difficulty in establishing a non-thinking mind. This is extremely powerful. A 6 hour sit could radically change your life if done under the right conditions. You must apply yourself consciously. Watch the mind observe your experience, listen, feel and be. It’s important to not just passively sit but to really place your attention on awareness. The longer the better usually. I do 20 in the morning and 20 at night. However, to me this isn’t enough it’s just that I usually have a busy schedule. Throughout the week I will do a 1 hour session as extra and this is where I find the most benefit. 20-30 minutes can be good but anything longer than an hour is best for me.

Increase your sits. Try and sit for 1-3 hours or 3-6 hours and attempt different mediation styles. Eg. Mantra mediation, observatory mediation, breathing mediation, listening mediation etc. Experimentation is key but also throwing yourself in the deep now and again, so as to you avoid simply stalling. Have long sessions here and there and try integrating psychedelics.

There is no “self” in which exists and can die. It’s an adamantly believed illusion. I recommend that you explore your experience beyond your thoughts about it. Inquire into your belief of a seperate self - critique it, explore it and examine it. Spend long periods contemplating your experience without thinking yourself into it. Freely observe your experience and let go of any thoughts that inform you otherwise. It is much like you have observed a mirage in a dessert and believe it to be water. What you must do is go up to it and see that is was an mirage all along so the belief can then dissolve. The illusion of self cannot be seen as one until you have dissolved all attachments to it.

The one spending 5000 words a comment egoistically reacting to opposing views. Humble yourself dude. As for the remainder of Conners committed subscribers pledging their subdued allegiance I’ll leave you to continue romanticising over him instead of doing the work. Enjoy.

Judging from the assumptuous incoherency in all that you just propagated I’m not even going waste my energy fuelling the delusion you appear to be already stuck within. You have proved my point just based on your entire rant. What have you done but simply defend someone you merely researched then criticise those with contentious opposing viewpoints? You’re a walking conundrum my friend. Please humble yourself by carefully compartmentalising what I previously wrote opposed to making ad hominem attacks predicated offcherry picking what substantiates your ludicrous arguments. You appear far from the level of consciousness you claim. I recommend retiring your fascination with Conner and focusing on yourself, clearly much work to be done there. I wish you the best.

You’ve taken my comment out of context. I was speaking to another gentleman regarding how neither materialism nor hedonism can be vehemently maintained while on the spiritual path. Using them to their epitome before hand can be helpful, however, being consumed while in practice only a produces an insatiable ego which distorts ones lens. It’s like being a sex addict and presupposing one can continue such activity while attempting to use methods to dissolve it, not going to happen. That is true. However, that assumes one has excelled them self to such a point they are receptive for transcending one stage and entering the next. There is no prior proof he was practicing spirituality to facilitate such a move. Why would he lie? Well think about it, if he were to fudge spiritual experience it may bolster the validity of his present antics. The main problem here is assuming one develops out of a stage over the course of a short period, that being several weeks. Although possible, extremely doubtful considering a history full of delusion. This typically takes years. You just cannot simply conclude such a thing on the basis such scarce information, that goes for any media personality. One must be understood according to the context of their entire situation not merely the scarcity of what they are willing to present.

Haha how did I know you would assume such a thing in defence of him ? Firstly, I never insinuated that I am above him or look down upon him. No one is above nor below anyone. Hierarchies in this work are delusional. You have superimposed this as an opinion. No that is not an accurate assessment. You’ve made an extremely naive assumption in stating that. I’ve never really been fond of Conners work. He always embellished egocentricity and pig headedness when it came to the fitness lifestyle. It was more about the “looks” and it’s perks than the investment factors that underlined it. I was in it for the development of health, weight gain and euphoria of exercise. He completely adorned the superficiality of the gym lifestyle, which I found to be demonstrably depreciate it. And now he assumes he is single handedly “awakened” having been deluded for a copious number of years. His fooling himself. I doubt your assertions on the matter. My estimation is that he is stuck in the territory of self-concept and ego, through which his rants are taking place and subduing others. Hence, his dualistic rants and pontificating. Be open to such a possibility that he may not be what you’ve so recently assumed he is, which from the mounting evidence seems highly probable.

Because previously I was a gym junkie and found him via Jeff Seid years ago. That’s okay. However, many here are making gross assumption having only watched 2-3 of his recent videos without contextualising his past. Awakening is not an instant bypass, it requires meticulous and arduous embodiment. Far more than that of a single mystical experience. Politely, I feel no need to engage in that question. Simply because, one does not awaken, awakening awakens to itself. To me awakening is the illumination of the ever-presence of experience. A complete alignment to existence beyond any form of fragmentation.

Again, you have made a gross assumption. The only reason he claims to have “awoken” beyond the self is because of a single ayahuasca experience. Not a gradual spiritual development. You’ve under assessed his situation. Sure, one can see the delusions of self through having it suffer, however, this does not ensure spiritual growth. One either needs ungodly amounts of receptivity or a psychedelic. He had the psychedelic. Don’t grant him a vip because he attained some intermittent insight through no development of his own. Also, you’ve made a false equivalency. Spiritual growth is not inherent in materialism and hedonism. It is in the realisation than no dualistic path that imposes the self will grant it - which transcends both of these delusional paradigms. Most who purse hedonism and materialism are extremely deluded not spiritually inclined. This is stage orange on the spiral. I fail to see the strength in your point yet again. Anywho, this discussion has met its inflection point. You seem far too consumed by the functions of behaviour in others than your own. Your ego reactions are extremely volatile and reject anything in opposition to them. I will invite you to explore this. I wish you the best on your journey

True and fair point. But ultimately the attachment to every dualistic notion must collapse. That was my point I was attempting to Spain to the other gentleman who seemed to not understand. One cannot be consumed by duality and pursue non duality it’s incongruous. This just becomes another deception of the ego-mind. Good point. Self deception is the king deception

I did respond. Refer to my last comment. Your simplistic assessment assumes one can operate under materialism and hedonism while equally pursuing spirituality. It’s not doable. They tangentially conflict. Both maintain and superimpose the self from which one becomes puppeteered and deluded. It’s basic human psychology which you seem to lack the foresight to see, in all due respect. If you can’t see this then you will one day experience it, that’s for certain. Exatly. What do you think 95% humans are presently doing? Believing in such a delusional belief. The have veiled the essence of themes elves with the essence of mind and believe the self to be the operator of their existence. This is delusion.

That’s still arguable. Osho is a case of real rarity. An ordinary being does not simply discard the functions they have been indoctrinated with their entire life. People grant them self way too much pride. Ego attaches to anything it can. That just happens to be anything that maintains a dualistic notion. Materialism and hedonism are central deceptions to such attachments.

Man, why so much hostility? What you do is your business. If you unable to see the delusions of the ego then this discussion will not help. You will continue to attack, project, defend and blame. Look inward rather than outward in this matter. Anything you do to glorify the self is a illusion. Being must take precedence in spirituality, otherwise all you are pursuing is the delusions of mind. Hence, why spiritual ego is such a relentless deception nowadays.

This is your view, you’re entitled to it. Stop pontificating and demanding those who think differently to agree with you. He has received insight, not woken up. These are two very different things.

I don’t think you see the problem here. One who is consumed by materialism and hedonism is not pursuing spirituality. That’s the point. They are non-conducive to it. Using them with responsibility may be a different matter. But Being totally subdued by them is not spirituality. His past reflects no such responsible use of any type. If you assume the dualistic notions of materialism and hedonism are immune to problems on the spiritual path you my friend are in for a rude awakening. Both are delusional functions of ego. They require transcending which he clearly did not. If you think you can discern a person from a single video than I pity your level of observation.

Watched this. Great snippet. By using the immobility of being one experiences beyond mind.

You may be misunderstanding the profundity of this work. Just because one has no purpose in which to serve does not mean they cannot create one. Onness is the central motivation. You see, to operate on behalf of oneness as a finite self is the greatest service you can provide. Serve all the fragments of existence, the self’s and objects, and by doing this you are serving consciousness. Consciousness becomes more translucent of itself through the realisation of its own nature via the finite beings whom are within it. Serving other finite beings serves consciousness which serves oneness, which turns out to be the greatest deed you could ever fulfil. Whats more, is that you will be gratified for doing this but not criticised if you do not. You are accepted regardless of what you do. You have a choice to use the unique skills of your finite self in service of the consciousness from which you stem or you can live an existence denying it. The power of choice is at your disposal. Life is a dance, it just simply requires you move with it.

Firstly, he didn’t just appear on fitness channels he had personal social media profiles in the past too. Secondly, that’s a clear indication of my point. What makes you think a heavy materialist hedonist with a pompous YouTube channel would be equally pursing spirituality? None. Absurd to think people would believe it otherwise. Please research the guy. The only caliber of spirituality he would have been pursuing would have been no more than the regular euphoric orgasm received from one of his many women. He was of no spiritual subscription whatsoever. I wish him the best but he is far from what he has claimed.