Emerald

It’s funny. I posted my reply before I watched the video. And he’s saying similar things to me but only with women in the adorer mode and men in the adored mode. But it’s archetypally backwards where women are in the Masculine lover mode and men are in the Feminine beloved mode. Men don’t like being beloveds.

Men like the idea of an adoring woman in fantasy, but they don’t actually respond very well to it in reality. And men certainly don’t fall in love by receiving adoration. These male/female dynamics are important to understand… - Women tend to fall in love by receiving. - Men tend to fall in love by giving. The more he gives and invests, the deeper he will love. And the more she allows herself to receive of him, the deeper she will love. This is the archetypal lover and beloved dynamic. The lover must always adore the beloved a little bit more than that beloved adores the lover. And when a woman looks up to a man and has the default frame of adoration, it subtly communicates that she sees his value as higher and her value as lower. And it foists the man up onto a pedestal and into the Feminine receiver/selector mode, while she tries to play the part of the Masculine giver as she gives her adoration unconditionally. This is why doing things for a man to get him to be interested backfires. This includes cooking for him, having sex with him, adoring him, cleaning for him, etc. Men will certainly enjoy these things. But he won’t feel compelled to pursue because a woman in giving mode is in her Masculine energy. Men are compelled to pursue challenging woman who make them chase a bit. This requires the woman to have relatively high standards to spark her feelings of adoration.

I think they’re only counting the hottest women as women here. So, when they say “women”, they’re only talking about a fraction of a percentage of women. They don’t really see regular women as women. And they take a cartoon caricature of how the top 1% of hot women live their lives, and they envy that. And they claim things like, “women just float through life” or “women live life on easy mode”… which isn’t true. And they have no empathy or understanding for what it’s like to be a woman. And women will pick up on this through tells in their speech and gestures about their notions about women. And then they’ll wonder why they struggle with finding a girlfriend.

Therein lies the cost. If you’re someone who wants to get free stuff from men, then you have to be willing to position yourself that way. You’ll have to be the hot chick that hangs around rich men who see you as an accessory to their success. And positioning yourself that way sounds like a shallow God awful experience.

The majority of women are not on Onlyfans. Most women are not sex workers and wouldn’t be okay with being sex workers. But I don’t view it as a lack of integrity. Sex work if fine for those who choose it because they enjoy it. I just hope that no one gets into it out of financial desperation. But I’m sure it’s correct also that women have to probably do a lot of marketing to get significant money from Onlyfans. The competition would be quite stiff, I’d imagine. And it’s honestly silly the idea that attractive women don’t have to work or develop character. They’re living life just like everyone else. And hot women are only hot for like 5 or 10 years of their lives. You can’t rely on something that fades so easily.

I’m sure that game is helpful. But the real issue that keeps men lonely isn’t lack of game… or some nonsense that Karmadhi was saying about needing to be in the top 10% of men to get a girlfriend. The real problem is a lack of social outlets… which then behooves men to learn game and do cold approach in lieu of a healthy social life. That’s why I recommended creating a social circle. You can just be an average (or even below average) guy and not learn much game and still get a girlfriend if you have a social circle. I know this because my high school and college social circle consisted of a lot of nerdy guys and girls. And none of them were unable to find partners despite the fact that many of them lacked in social graces and/or looks. And the connection is honestly just better and more organic with social circles. If we were living in a time where society wasn’t so atomized and online, the men who are on here that are complaining about not being able to get girlfriends would have already had some luck.

Leo was just talking about the perks of simply existing in the world and having big boobs… not about joining onlyfans or doing some other form of sex work. The majority of women wouldn’t be okay with doing sex work.

That’s generally not how relationships with women work. Be social and make lots of male and female friends and acquaintances. And when you’re spending time socializing, an organic attraction will eventually arise between you and a woman in your social circle. You don’t need to be in the top 10% of guys. And you don’t even need much game. Just socialize and have a good time and connect with people and your loving cup will eventually be filled.

I think you over-estimate how many freebies women tend to get. The cooks at a restaurant will give you free fries if you’re a waitress. And men at clubs will buy you drinks. I still say that it’s best to take a non-receptive response even to those small gestures, unless you’re genuinely interested in a guy. But that’s about the amount of freebies that you get consistently as a woman… even as a very attractive woman. That is… unless you position yourself for the male gaze and as being receptive to bigger gestures. There’s a personality frame and persona that has to be embodied in order to get that kind of treatment. So, the woman you were seeing who was given the car by the billionaire, probably positioned herself in a way that evoked that reaction. He didn’t just see a hot chick on the street and say, “Hey there miss! Can I buy you a car?” She had to be a certain kind of person to even be interested in embodying the persona of being the woman that receives a car from a rich guy for being hot. And therein lies the cost. It also encourages you to see men as the “middle man” between you and your personal power… and you become reliant on your looks as how you secure resources and power. And once you lose that power to turn the heads of men, you will feel powerless. And that looks-based power fades about ten years into adult life with 40 or 50 years left to go. And woe betide the woman that makes the mistake of getting into a relationship with a billionaire who gives cars to hot women.

Ever since I was a little girl, I noticed that boys/men have a very different idea of what makes men attractive compared to what women actually find attractive about men. One example that I noticed way back then, is that many boys/men tend to think about having big muscles as the ideal male body type. But most women (according to surveys) tend to find men attractive who have a body type that’s strong and lean where the muscles aren’t super huge. (That’s just when women are asked in a survey though. Actual attraction is much more nuanced than that.) But that’s just one example… and a physical one at that. There tends to be some common beliefs among men about men’s attractiveness physically and personality-wise. And this creates a desire to match up to the “ideal” male image that men believe is attractive. And the desire to emulate that image in terms of looks and personality often acts as a spoiler to their natural attractiveness in the eyes of women. Through a woman’s eyes, it looks like a guy covering over and interrupting his own natural Masculinity with a mask of his internal image of the ideal Masculine. It’s a man who doubts his Masculinity and thus feels he needs to pretend to be a man. Here’s a video that talks about this phenomenon in depth…

@something_else Let me rephrase this… those freebies come at a cost that’s greater than sex.

I wasn’t strawmanning. I was being facetious to convey my point that tits don’t confer any kind of real power. And I doubt this billionaire just gave your girlfriend a free car without expecting something in return. The free things that men give to women are never actually free. It’s a good practice to avoid taking “free” things from men. Otherwise you’re like Persephone eating pomegranate seeds in the Underworld.

Women generally aren’t looking for the top 10% of guys. Women don’t tend to be very strategic when it comes to picking a partner unless they’re using their logic-mind to choose. But using the logic-mind to choose will get a woman into relationships that aren’t fulfilling at all. Logic pales in comparison to emotion and intuition as it comes to finding a match. Its all very emotional and has 98% to do with how she feels about a guy. Women honestly aren’t picky enough about their standards. They just fall for a guy, and then forgive all of his short-comings because of how she feels about him. Women are selective. But they’re not picky at all in how they select.

And did you know that 99.9% of female CEOs have huge tits? Not! Trust me… the only doors big tits open are literal planks of wood on metal hinges. Not as to say that having a door held open for you here and there isn’t nice sometimes… and of course making an extra $10 in tips during a shift as a waitress is helpful. But tits really won’t get you far… because simply being attractive to men (or in general) is an ineffective path to power. This is especially true given the fact that aging happens… and any soft power that looks did confer will gradually fall away. And in the options that an attractive woman could choose to propel themselves ahead financially based on looks come at great cost to them. They either marry a rich guy who has so much more power in the relationship compared to them because they hold the purse strings… and who might just be looking for an accessory to his own self-image and status. Or they become a model and deal with all the objectification and noise that comes with that option.

The active campaign of calling LGBTQ people groomers started about a year ago. So, while this tactic has been used before in history, the groomer rhetoric is a new intonation of it.

Would you consider it a big deal once the children/teens you’ve told to wait commit suicide? Perhaps it doesn’t look like a big deal to you. But if you were struggling with gender dysphoria, you’d probably feel differently.

It’s always that way. The rule is… if you’re trying to be Masculine, you’re failing. Masculinity is a very subtle and graceful quality that shines through in the small gestures a man makes as he moves and speaks.

Consider that there is also a wisdom to viewing food this way. Of course, it’s good to eat healthily. But if she’s struggled with things like body image and hating her body, restricting food choices could be a very unloving choice for her to make for herself. Many people (most commonly women) who struggle with body image, go through cycles of food guilt where they over-eat and then restrict. And what often works for people in the cycles of food guilt is to get into the mindset that there is no bad food and to allow themselves to eat intuitively. Sometimes it’s wise to focus on self- improvement. But other times, self-improvement can get in the way of self-love.

Like I said, it is very difficult in these cases.

One thing to take into consideration is that late-term abortions tend to happen because the life of the mother is at stake or the pregnancy isn’t viable (meaning the baby won’t be able to survive outside of the womb). Very few people would go through 8 months of pregnancy and decide to abort, unless they had to. So, even though the idea of late-term abortions tend to put people off, those tend to come from people who want to keep their babies but cannot. The vast majority of abortions happen in the 1st trimester.

That is a difficult one. Overall, I don’t believe that you should be able to euthanize someone against their will. So, I wouldn’t be in favor of euthanizing a baby… even if they’re suffering. I would, however, be in favor of palliative care for the duration of their short life.

Your body, your choice… I guess. ?

I disagree with that too. I view existence as a good thing. I value life with all its pains and joys. There is no need to wage war with life. Those who are so resistant to pain that they’re unwilling to allow life to be are lovers only of death.

In the first couple months in the womb, the fetus hasn’t developed the nervous system. So, it won’t feel anything. But afterwards, there is pain that’s felt. This is important to realize for anyone who’s deciding to have an abortion. But babies after birth (which is what I was referring to in the post you replied to) definitely have a fully developed nervous system and the capacity to feel pain.

My issue with your viewpoint isn’t that it’s extreme. There’s plenty of extreme viewpoints that are better than the moderate position. My issue is that your viewpoint is inhumane and doesn’t belong in the contemporary world. Infanticide is murder and an affront to bodily sovereignty. So, there should be no legalized killing of someone who isn’t capable of consenting. And that’s true no matter how painless the killing is.