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Just be straightforward and honest about what your motivations are. Otherwise, it's out of integrity. But the thing is, you don't even need to be romantically involved with a woman to know if you want a serious relationship with her. So, it's not like you have to be in a bunch of relationships with women at once to know. It's just your scarcity-thinking that makes you consider all these "What if" scenarios. Just build a social circle for yourself with both men and women in it. And then, you'll eventually develop feelings for someone who will reciprocate them. And as long as you are social, things will arise organically. I can tell by the way you write about your dilemma that you haven't yet had really deep feelings for a woman. It's more like the question "Who do I find attractive enough to want a relationship with?" But attractiveness is just the first bar of consideration. And once that bar is crossed, there are deeper feelings of desire for pair-bonding that arise when there is something deeper there. And no logistics are needed simply because you're certain that you want something deeper with this particular person. But because you haven't had that desire yet, you're stuck in these logistical thoughts around the attractiveness of the woman... and how to navigate situations you don't want to be in... and considering trade-offs. It's all too logical. The reality is that, if you're thinking logistically, you're not going to be well aligned with the deeper kind of connection that begets a fulfilling relationship because you're in your head thinking about pros and cons and trade-offs. Just trust that options will be there, open your heart, be yourself... and (most importantly) be social... and you will eventually find a woman you genuinely want to be with. And you'd probably benefit from allowing these relationships to slow-burn and develop organically... instead of trying to jump right into something romantic or sexual. That will give you a more platonic period of time to get to know a bunch of people... and then have feelings arise organically.

Very well said. That's 100% the game of Red Pill grifters who want to part vulnerable men from their money. You sell them a framework full of both dangers and solutions to those dangers that make them feel like adopting that framework keeps them safe and empowered. But in actuality, it just keeps them stuck in their problem and not socializing... with no real experience dating. And add to that, that this propaganda makes them come across as a big red flag to a sizable portion of the women that they might want to date. So, it hurts their chances even more and creates even more road blocks to connection.

These all seem like very simple scenarios to navigate if you value integrity... and you aren't in scarcity mindset. Just don't sleep with or get involved with women you're not actually attracted to. If someone (male or female) gets into a relationship with someone they have no attraction to, it just won't work. And don't pass yourself off as monogamous if you don't want to be monogamous. Simply own being poly... or wanting to sleep with lots of women. And just be straight-forward about not wanting children. All of these issues really come down to scarcity thinking... and believing that you need to sleep with women you don't find attractive or misrepresent your intentions to get laid. Just trust that some women you're attracted to will also be attracted to you... and that some of those will also not want children and be okay with hook-ups.

I see that this situation has left you once bitten, twice shy. So, it's a very common response after heartbreak to be hesitant to open up again for fear of experiencing the pain again. What I would say is to allow yourself to fully process the pain of the disconnection. But then, after a time, you must allow yourself to trust another person with your heart. The price of opening up to love is to risk heartbreak. So, the more okay you are with experiencing the pain of heartbreak and loss, the more capacity you will have to open up to new love.

@Tenebroso Do you really think that the Red Pill/Incel stuff being so prevalent will have zero impact on how women select for male partners? Surely it won't be every woman that picks up on these patterns. But I'm sure that at least 30-40% of women under the age of 30 are actively sorting out men from consideration who include misogynistic buzzwords or Red Pill buzzwords... or even just plain conservative vibes on dating apps. The reality is that, now-a-days, men who hate women are all consuming the same exact propaganda. And they all use the same exact talking points. So, they're very easy to spot. Honestly, women in their teens and twenties now HAVE TO be aware of these patterns, buzzwords, and talking points just to stay safe. So, while a minority of women might go for antisocial guys... you can't expect that the majority of women won't notice when huge swaths of the male population are getting sucked into a propaganda pipeline that conditions them to be in victim's mentality and blame women for all of their issues. The problem is that guys believe that women are getting pickier based on physical attributes or wealth or status. And the common misogynist talking points are... "6 figure, 6 pack, 6 feet" or "All women go for the top 10% of guys" or "Hypergamy", etc. So, men refuse to acknowledge that the propaganda that claims to help them is actually hurting them... because the propaganda feels safer and more empowering. And they double down on the real impediment to connection with women... the propaganda itself. But most women's concern is safety first... not all the "666" stuff that some guys on the internet made up. And when most dating is happening on dating apps (which enables women to be very logical in who they choose because there are no emotions involved)... there are always buzzwords and tells that indicate that a man might have misogyny issues. And if he doesn't give it away on the dating app... he's certainly reveal tells during the date. So, these guys are getting sorted from consideration because women don't live under a rock. Most young women know about the propaganda pipeline. And it leaves a lot of men lonely because women aren't attracted to bitter misogynistic guys who are blaming all their issues on women and feel so pressed about women.

It's really not difficult to eat 100 grams of protein per day as a Vegan. So, I don't know why you think that. The pasta she uses in her last meal is Lupini bean pasta which has like 21 grams of protein per serving. Then, she uses tofu in the sauce... plus the lentils... plus the broccoli. These are all great sources of protein.

@AION Certainly, my take is a "girly" take... as I'm specifically communicating about how women tend to select for partners in the current era where (because of social media) misogyny and anti-social tendencies in men are much more well-known for women as a collective group. And there are common perspectives and buzzwords that the men who think this way will say that most young women will immediately be able to clock such a guy. Women don't want to be with anti-social mean-spirited guys who lack emotional intelligence and who hate/resent women. That's why these guys are complaining of loneliness... because women (as a collective) have become conscious to the point that they are sorting these guys out. And all of the misogynistic propaganda just exacerbates that issue by selling men a version of Masculinity that most women find repellant and will guarantee that most women will sort them from consideration. Think about how birds mate. The male bird does his dance... and the female says "yes" or "no". And because of the internet propaganda, huge swaths of the male population are being taught unappealing "dances" by men who claim to be experts... and who also convince their marks to never listen to women about what they want. So, it keeps these men doubling down on mating strategies that make them less and less and less appealing to women. Add to that, the fact that people are socializing less... and you have a situation where lots of men simply won't partner up and won't have children. That's what The Amazing Atheist was talking about in his video.

I'm not too familiar with Rick Ross. I can say that I don't personally find him aesthetically appealing but that some women might. But most men who aren't integrated with the Feminine side are pretty nerdy and socially inept... like Incels. The lack of integration of the Feminine is socially crippling... and prevents deeper connection on a human level. So, I don't think that a famous musician falls into that category. He's got to have some degree of Feminine integration to have the social skills and creative skills to do what he does. But ultimately, how you define "success" matters. And when I speak of success (relative to this video by the Amazing Atheist), I mean men who will be good husbands and fathers (if they so wish) and who are an asset to their community. And you can't do that without Feminine integration... especially not in this current era. And it seems to me that the men complaining of the "male loneliness epidemic" are men who have the behavior of trying to maximize their Masculinity and repress all signs of Femininity. And with social media, many women's collective awareness has expanded in the past 10 years, such that they are more aware of signs of anti-Feminine behaviors and ideologies... and select partners based off of that information for both safety and attraction purposes. Men who repress their Feminine side will treat women the same way they treat their own Feminine side. So, a men who tries to eradicate the Feminine from himself cannot be a good partner to a woman. And the current state of things, makes it quite evident who's who in terms of men who are safe and men who are unsafe. And women (as a group) will tend to select for safer male partners over ones who come off as creepy or dangerous.

The OP is very young... born in 2006. So, she's only 19 years old. (I just looked on her profile) I just interpreted her words as meaning that she still hasn't grieved the end of a previous partnership... which can make it difficult to open up to a new relationship.

From what you'd mentioned, it seems that you have been in love in the past. And now, you're having a hard time opening up to a new relationship. If I'm reading your situation correctly from the word "again", how long ago did you get out of the relationship with the person you loved? If it's quite recently, you'll likely need to go through some more grieving to fully let them go. But if it's been quite a while and it's hard to let go and open up to someone new, you'll want to explore the deeper reasons why you're still holding onto the past relationship... including attachment to the idea of the future which never came to pass. There could also be an element of limiting beliefs, where you conceptualize of yourself as very different from others. And this could impede the ability to open up.

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I haven't read that one.

Also, a bit of historical context that might be helpful for understanding the ire... and the perception of the powerful "other". During the medieval times, it was seen as un-Christian to be involved in financial matters. And that's because there's a lot of notions like "blessed are the poor or spirit". And it was seen to be of lower morals to be in the merchant class because of its proximity to money. They royals and nobility didn't want to "lower" themselves. And Kings and Queens would enlist the help of a "Court Jew" to help with the matters of banking and finances, so that they could outsource those tasks they saw as un-Christian. So, because of the way that money was viewed in Christendom as non-Christian, there has been an association of Jewish people with money. And the pattern of Jewish people being associated with money and riches gets started. Then, as we've moved out of feudalist fiefdoms and towards a more consumer Capitalist society, the most powerful people ceased to be the royals and nobility... and instead became the merchant class and the bankers. So, because there had been a patterns within the mainstream Christian society of it being anti-christian to handle money... this set up a pattern that later gave Jewish people more power because of their association with banking and money as things shifted away from Feudalism and towards Capitalism. This further solidifies the stereotypes associated with the "powerful other" who is plotting to take over like I mentioned in the previous post.

Consider that most of our default perspectives are coming from European Christian perspective because that is the perspective of the most dominant cultures who have the most imperial power. These are the same cultures that have the most impact on popular culture and what's coming up in the collective Zetigeist of the now international human species. So, anything that is considered "other" than white Christianity will be hated and marginalized in the collective Zeitgeist. And there certainly is a lot of Islamophobia as well as antisemitism because those are competitor religions to the dominant Christian perspective. So, they're going to be treated with a special amount of ire... moreso than smaller religions that aren't seen as real competitors to Christianity. But Islam is seen as more distant... and as something that's a fixture of the Middle East. So, Islamophobia is a more distant hatred of the distant other from the white Christian perspective. But there is a strong association between the Jewish identity and white European culture. And when most people think of Jewish people, they think of white people. So, Jewish people are perceived as a closer competitor to the default perspective... like a closer rival. That's why a lot of the antisemitic rhetoric is one that's more in the framing of "look at these powerful people that are plotting to take over" rather than the inferiorizing rhetoric of more distant others. Basically, the white Christian default sees them as closer rivals to the dominant perspective. But really any "other" will be hated and marginalized. That is the way that people with strong collective identities operate, as a strong tribal/national/ethnic/racial identity requires a contrasting other to give definition to the collective identity. Anytime you're saying, "I am this", there is an implied "I am not that." And the stronger identification we have with "this", the stronger resistance we will have of "that".

As a woman who doesn't respond to pick-up at all, I can tell you that guys who are into pick-up lose attractiveness. They come across like a salesman trying to hit quota, rather than like a regular human being. What I notice about guys who get into pick-up is that they lose the ability to simply interact with a woman without going into "agenda-mentality" and can't just let the connection form organically. They get too clouded by their knowings and agendas to truly be open. It's like, they have to do the legwork and escalate... and be the driver of the connection. And it becomes this really linear goal-oriented thing. And most women aren't into that kind of linear progression. But it will work on a sizable minority of women (maybe 20%-30%). So, men will get success with that sizable minority of women while functioning in that very mechanistic, utilitarian, goal-oriented way of operating relative to human connection. And they will come to the conclusion that this way of operating works on all or most women, when it doesn't. And it will repel women who are more open to organic connection and who only respond to the longer-winded and non-linear "fermentation process" of developing mutual feelings. And the men will believe "Focusing on organic connection doesn't work as effectively" because it gets them fewer numbers. So, a whole mode of connecting and operating gets cut off because the "pick-up" mode is more effective for the numbers game. And the women who are susceptible to the numbers game have an MO that's less prone to the natural slow-burn or intimate connection. So, it becomes like a fast-food version of human connection, which is far more transactional and unsatisfying. But it seems difficult for the guys who are into pick-up to notice what's lost because they're more likely to win the numbers game.

Yes, that's essentially true that pick-up is about gender performance... as are all actions taken to affirm one's own gender identity. So, a man learning pick-up or "how to be Masculine" is about performing the male gender to feel more embodied in the identity of maleness. So, I can see connections between the notion of gender performance related to trans identities and the gender performances that straight/cis people do to affirm their own gender. It comes from the same motivation.

I actually just wrote a script on the Puer Aeternus for my channel. I'll be releasing it next week. I figured that, since Dr. K is talking about it, that it might be a good archetype to cover. I see it as really topical. But I don't see pick-up as being linked to homosexuality. It's really evident to me that homosexuality is more physiological than it is purely a psychological phenomenon. I see the universality of gay voice across all cultures is evidence to that fact. Keep in mind that Marie-Louise Von Franz was writing in a time where homosexuality was still thought to be a psychiatric condition. So, that's going to cause her to look at homosexuality through the lens of pathology instead of simply as a sexual orientation that's a reflection of normal human diversity. But I do think what Joshe said about pick-up being Feminine is certainly true... as it is typically about emotional things like validation/proof of lovability/desirability, social status among inter-male peer groups, and a salve for loneliness, as opposed to purely meeting physical sexual needs.

I was having a conversation earlier this week with someone about how the types of men that straight men believe are attractive differ from the types of men that women find attractive. Healthy Gamer just made a video about it...

I suspect that that's most women who fall outside of this category, as anger issues show a lack of emotional maturity and that the man is controlled by his emotions. It's really only the case for those who already have the familial patterns to pre-dispose them to that attraction, like myself. And it tends to be that chronically angry people are that way because they feel chronically powerless. So, it's like this sense of trying to control but not being able to and ramping up the anger into tantrum because they feel so out of control. And part of the unconscious boons that I got from being with an angry person in the past is that I got to feel like the stoic rock that was more in control... while my partner was always falling apart. And I could help glue them back together because I was stoic and emotionally flat enough to do so. Like, my first relationship as a teenager, the whole dynamic was that he'd have a total tantrum meltdown... and I'd be the glue that put him back together with my unconditional presence and ability to absorb his tantrums. It was kind of like being a mother to a very fussy baby. So, there was a power and dominance that I felt in the dynamic by being the emotionally stable one.

Lots of women have familial patterns that set them up for these kinds of dynamics. So, while most women won't be vulnerable to this kind of thing... the women who have patterns in childhood that make them susceptible to trickery like this can end up in these unfortunate circumstances. Of course, I have my own familial patterns. I tend to be attracted to men who are either angry all the time or struggle with expressing anger. And that's reflective of my mom and my dad respectively... where I polarized in the same direction as my dad, with difficulty expressing anger. So, I have been susceptible to that pattern... and find men with anger issues (in either direction) attractive. But I'm not very susceptible to this type of objectification and duping pattern. I've never had an issue finding a partner who's really serious about me and loves me. I can sense immediately the type of guy who would do that kind of manipulation, usery, objectification, and duping, and I'm not attracted to that vibe. And that's how women without trauma around those patterns will relate to such a guy. It will automatically give off an icky sleazy vibe. But icky sleazy vibe will be attractive to a woman whose parent(s) had the icky sleazy vibe who objectified her and devalued her. And that guy will be a projection screen that she can use to repeat the patterns from childhood. The same thing is true for men as well, of course. All human beings develop attractions based on familial/familiar patterns.

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That's what people tend to do... they automatically eliminate people who are a standard deviation (or more) less attractive than they are. They, they'll go for whoever they're attracted to and have chemistry with. And of course, good looks draw people in. But a healthy mentality about it is to find someone that you find attractive who "hits the bar" and then see if there's deeper connection to be had. The beauty glutton is one who simply tries to maximize the attractiveness of his sexual partners in a conquesting kind of way. And he won't feel content with a woman of his level of attractiveness, even if he theoretically could find her attractive if he wasn't so fixated on aiming for perfection. Often times, this kind of guy is just seeing very beautiful women as the judges for his own worthiness as a human. And he can't project that kind of authority to judge his worthiness onto ordinary-looking women. So, he isn't interested in them (even if those women are more attractive than him) because he doesn't feel like they have the power to validate his existence as worthy. But of course, that guy isn't ready to be in a relationship because he wouldn't be able to relate to the woman he's with as a person.

Yes... many types of gluttony. Thank you!