andyjohnsonman

I would say I'm stage Green/yellow and he is Orange. My parents have an apartment in Portugal. He wants to stay there. He works in sales and i feel is using stage orange at all costs, me over my friend mentality. My parents would worry about him staying there especially with the Covid situation and as they have a baby. It's annoying that even tho i am aware of his pushing it still got me to ask my parents. If he was more gentle and saw my point of view he wouldn't have got a chance of getting what he wants. I feel this is a deep problem and why selfishness prevails and the stage orange worldview will be around for a while. I can see he is using sales by pushing past rejections, agreeing with any objections and doesn't see the position of my parents, just agrees with it as a way to not need to deal with any objections and can therefore continue with his points: Should i be accepting of this or do you think I am you're making excuses for him and his bad behaviour and treatment of me and my boundaries which I have voiced to him and he has ignored? I have another stage green friend who thinks that relationships are give and take. Nice people don't charm, and they certainly don't manipulate and therefore you cant call this person a friend. Interesting to see all this from a spiral point of view rather than a few years ago i'd just be like, "why is my friend being a dick and using sales on me"?

Yea looking back i think it there was a sneaky bit of moralising in there. I didn't give a yes or no to see how he responded and thinking he might push further which gives me a chance to moralise by saying why are you pushing. Glad you guys helped me see it.

Hmm good points. You think I was guilting him? I felt i was just making him aware of what he was doing and that i knew what he was doing. At the same time I feel a hard no isn't always necessary and people should be able to read between the lines.

The black police officer at the end is classic blue https://9gag.com/gag/aZyLW66

This is the hard part for me. I saw you put in an earlier thread, "If you really want to grow, drop your worldview and try to look at the world from Tucker's POV until you understand its appeal." Which I completely agree with but this is so hard to do knowing the whole spiral and the fact that people lower down the spiral have all these mind traps.

Lie back close your eyes meditate and listen to this

Are you on something now?

Anyone willing to ponder on that?

everytime i turn my adblocker off when i need to for certain websites I always get Eckhrt Tolle adverts trying to get me to sign up for his courses!

also wouldn't it be better to try and see his side of the argument rather than needing help to confirm your side?

Great recent video Leo, one of my favourites. I love when everything is tied in together with politics, history, SD, spirituality etc. Leo talks about unity and division and how the culture wars at the moment is tier 1 division which came out from the unity of stage blue. After seeing the limits of this stage many factors gave rise to people having different ideologies but with a lack of epistemology which can make it hard for ppl to decide which direction to head in. How will this division eventually unite people when there are always going to be people at different stages on the spiral? Surely the only way for this to happen would be for everyone to move up to tier 2 integral consciousness as anything lower than this then there’s going to be backlash and more division? If that’s the case this will take centuries surely?

after reading the power of now i was interested in meditation so watched a video on how to meditate. Then watched another video called how society fucks you in the ass which really got my attention.

this forum is also a dopamine hit

I highly recommend it! I've been doing it for a month now, mainly Kriya Yoga and concentration. If you get your whole body and head under the water apart from your mouth and nose it feels like you are in the womb when in I AMness. I also find it much easier to stay present and very euphoric. Just watch out that you don't fall asleep or that your mouth and nose go under the water.

I feel like rebel wisdom is one my main go to channels and they are very much into integral spirituality. I was pleasantly surprised to see on their channels that the follow Leo's content. I wonder how many have been inspired.

wow that is one passionate man

Not only is he wearing green, his surname is Greenfield!

I'm not saying I agree or disagree with this critique, however I hope you agree that to make sure you aren't going down the wrong path you should constantly check in with yourself to make sure you aren't being deluded. You should always look at a critique of anything you follow/read/learnt/believe in order to make an accurate decision. I think this is the fairest critique of Leo i've come across especially the second one.

In what way?

yea i watched this earlier today too and that doomsday prediction was a red flag for me too. Made me think he was using it to try and get ppl to find god.

according to this which i am watching now it is said that the ego remains if suicide is partaken

I feel Rupert beautifully sums the situation up. "It is our sacred duty to love everybody equally. The appropriate response to this situation must be informed by the understanding of our shared being (love) - If it doesn’t come from this and instead comes from only seeing their conditioning then the prejudice and the division which caused the injustice in the first place will be present to a degree in our response, and although our response may be effective (to a degree) in the short term, in the long term it won’t put an end to the injustice because it has not uprooted the cause of the injustice -that is that we don't love each other equally. Our response should be informed by the love for these 2 people (George Floyd and Derek Chauvin) If we feel the love for these 2 people equally in our hearts we are then in a position to respond appropriately and take whatever action necessary. I am not implying we shouldn’t take action, sometimes very firm action is required - this is one such case. If it doesn’t come from love it won’t have the power to effect the change in society for which so many people deeply long."

he seems really authentic in this video I think he prob had some kind of awakening

Any topics can be discussed but instead of being tied down to the content they would be analysed through a stage yellow lens. Yea that would be a problem establishing whether the people talking in it were yellow and moderating how yellow conversations would occur.