bobbyward

@jjer94 is stopping thought not what self inquiry is ?? what do you think is the best method then ??

the thing is as long as you believe and or feel that you are a separate self, EVERYTHING you do is seeking. everything you do is about making yourself happy, its impossible for a separate self to not seek happiness. if you believe and or feel you are a separate self, spiritual seeking doesnt make you any more or less of a seeker.

reading a book now called '' refuting the external world ''. breaking down the nature of reality its very good

self inquiry is about quieting the mind. when you ask the question who am i, and look with awareness, the mind is temporarily still, and this stillness is the answer you are looking for, the goal is to stay there as long as possible as often as possible. you know your making progress if thoughts show up less through out the day. 30mins a day is nothing, you need to do it all day. you can do your formal practice for 30mins a day or whatever, but you need to knock down thoughts through out the day.

I had an awakening 9 weeks ago, were i seen that there is no self, its becoming more clear as the weeks go on, and there is a witnessing of everything that is happening, with nobody doing it. but there is still separation between everything, there is still duality, how does one go from seeing no self/witnessing to seeing no separation or experiencing non duality?? Anybody have any experience with this ?? thanks Alan

we have no experience of the brain, if you are mindful of thoughts arising and falling, they come from no were. but of course thoughts will come up with all sort of explanations for were thoughts come from.

by duality i mean that my body is separate from the objects in the world, and the objects in the world are separate from each other. my conceptual understanding of non duality is that there is no separation between anything, everything in awareness is indivisible.

i was doing self inquiry intensely before i seen no self, after seeing no self i have no interest in doing it anymore. im trying to work on seeing no separation, dissolving conditioning and disidentifying with the body. i have been doing yoga meditations by rupert spira the last 6 weeks and find them very good, they are for after you have an awakening to help you embody your awakening or to disidentify you with the body, theres example of them on youtube and he has lots on his website. he says about 10per cent of being a separate self is in thoughts and about 90per cent is in the body(feelings).

i dont know if i am at the witness stage but i can clearly see that there is nobody here, but it does seem like there is a witnessing of everything thats going on, yes and like you said identifying with the body and conditioning is still there after seeing, but it takes time to fall away so i have been told. that book i read gateless gatecrashers is about getting you to look and see through the self, when i read the book i was thinking there is no way in hell this can work its too simple, and around page 80 i noticed that my experience had changed, and i was experiencing no self, it really is just a seeing that can happen in a flash. do you think seeing no separation can be seen in a flash like seeing no self, or that you need to disidentify with the body and conditioning first ?

I had an awakening 9 weeks ago after reading the book gateless gatecrashers, were i 'seen' that there was no self, and that is my experience since then nobody controlling thoughts or the body. its not enlightenment proper though as even though i experience no self, there is still separation between everything, its not non duality. adam is this seeing you had, seeing no self, seeing no separation or both?? thanks Alan