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Anybody ever taken 5meo, by swollowing it? And if so what we're the results. I was reading some were that HCI is best to be taken by swallowing it.

@AlwaysBeNice the longer you hold it in the more effect it will have. take a big hit, hold it in for as long as possible, it will send you to the moon.

@Real Eyes I had 5meo hcl that was pinkish and 5meo hcl that was yellowish, the pinkish one was better. i dont know the purity of either. I hear the more white it is the more pure it is, but i dont really know

Good post @TJ Reeves! But can you tell me where I can get some 5-meo?

@Azrael do you still think strong determination sitting is the best practice for awakening. and did you use strong determination sitting when on 5meo?

@Azrael how is " source " known or experienced. What is the experience like. I hear some teachers say it can't be known or percieved. And I think to myself if it can't be perceived how do you know it's there or exists.

Enlightened beings don't like commands

rank these substances in order of importance for your awakenings

How many times have you used 5meo, and over what period of time? It seems like your awakening of the mind and body weren't dramatic, it was just changes you noticed and immediately continued life as normal, correct? How long was it between the awakening of the mind and awakening of the body? What do you mean by source? @Azrael

the funny thing is almost all of the enlightened teachers who tell you not to seek, were themselves seeking intensely for years. their own life story contradicts what they are saying. plus trying not to seek is just another form of seeking.

as long as you are suffering, its impossible not to seek happiness. seeking will only stop when suffering stops. seeking does not only come in the form of spiritual seeking, if you are working towards a new job, relationship, more money that is also seeking, anytime you want life to be different than the way it is you are seeking, so even if you drop spiritual seeking, you will still be a seeker. @Leo Gura rupert spira is my favorite teacher, he doesnt advocate not seeking. in fact he says the thought '' there is nobody here and nothing to do, is the separate self appropriating the teaching'' and to keep seeking until you are fully satisfied. he also says the sign of enlightenment is lasting happiness not the thought there is nobody here and nothing to do.

@Leo Gura when you are doing your self inquiry, do you ask yourself questions and contemplate or do you just sit with a quiet mind?

@Bombardini i have to do 70mg plugged to get a breakthrough. snorting it doesnt agree with me, gave me runny rose and sore throat. i usually do 30mg when its freebase

There is only one thing that exists, and everything is it. But if you are not knowingly having the experience of being enlightened then it does you no good, the experience of being enlightened and not knowing it, is identical to the experience of not being enlightened

this is a very bad attempt to demonise drug use

I have done lots of 5meo and in large amounts and never had a negative experience with it, I enjoy it.

@zikzak I tried sorting and it didn't agree with me, gave me a sore throat and runny nose. I done 35mg sorted and it was not strong enough. I'm hoping to get my 5meo from a different source next time, maybe that might help.

@Leo Gura how about you do a ''self inquiry part 2'' video, for advanced inquiry. when you talk about inquiry, it does be about the beginning stages when you are asking questions and trying to work things out through thought.

@zikzak you are wasting your time and 5meo with them small doses, do 70mg next time. I also get sea sickness and unease, but it goes away after 15mins I done 70mg today, it was strong, but if I had enough 5meo I'd do a higher dose. I have done high doses of freebase too, but prefor the hcl, because it lasts longer and I feel I get more insight from it

25mg freebase vaporized. i started off with 35mg hcl, and just kept going up.

for me to get a breakthrough with hcl plugged i need to do 70mg. 25mg freebase

@Huz I done about 1000 hours of meditation, had one awakening, and done nn-dmt a few times before i done 5meo. i wasnt putting off 5meo, i just never heard of it until recently. if you want to work your way up to it, do some nn dmt or other drug. but for me 5meo is not about surrender, as i have no choice whether to surrender or not, im just catapulted out of existence and dont have the option to resist.

this is basic self inquiry as thought by ramana maharshi and nisargadatta maharaj. although i think these are the best videos i have seen on the practice

have you used it yourself? I have done it about 10 times, it has reduced my sense of self alot, as in less identification with thoughts, also the feeling of being a separate self has reduced. more of an expended sense of self, these things result in less suffering. also i think of a result of 5meo i get glimpses of this '' no thing '' people talk about. i think the most beneficial effect of it is it reduces the feeling of being a separate self, the reason we have the experience of being a separate self is because we feel like a separate self. only negative is i get hangovers from it, but i use alot. some people say its scary, i never found that i enjoy it.

I dont find the 5meo experience to be as dramatic and profound as some do. one thing i learned from doing it today is, your true nature cant be worked out by thought, no thing is too subtle, it cant be thought. silence and taking attention away from objects is the best way.