Joseph Maynor

Stage Red vs. Stage Blue

Stage Red is all about creating and developing themselves to be a God among inferior humans in this world. That has pros and cons to it. Stage Red has a good side and a bad side. You wanna take the good side and leave the bad side of Stage Red. This is the same for each and every Spiral stage: take the good side and leave the bad side of each stage.

Trump is centered around Stage Red although his personas can shift into Blue and Orange when it serves his Ego-Heartbodymind to do so.

No. Self-esteem is entirely changeable. This is one of the great things about life.

I like the treadmill. If you use that everyday you'll get fit.

I think the key characteristic of Coral for me is I felt like I was the only thing that existed. I also recall integrating the Ego back from Turquoises' shadow. Even though I thought Ego was an illusion at Coral, I was cool with Ego because I realized it's just a story, an experience, a movie if you will. And I knew as God that anything that happened to my Ego wouldn't affect me. In the same way that you get up from your seat in a movie theater after the movie's over and walk out the door -- no matter how brutal the movie was. The movie can't hurt you. That's the insight of Coral. Maya cannot hurt you. Coral sees all experiences as existing within himself or herself. Coral sees that there's nothing behind the scenes with Experience. Coral is as high as you're gonna go by clinging to Metaphysics and Truth. To transcend Coral and get to Teal, you gotta loosen your grip on Metaphysics and to Truth. Coral is in a way the end of the line when it comes to the mind's theories of truth and reality. And you can either stay there at Coral, or you can kind of shake that clinging to that masculine Truth free, and realize that there's a paradox between Being (Yin) and Truth (Yang) that you gotta work both ends of. Coral is very masculine, and it's clinging to Truth which is masculine. I am God is very masculine. Teal realizes that Coral still hasn't integrated Yin and Yang sufficiently yet. Coral is still too stuck in the Mind as high up on the Spiral as it is.

Rationalize it however you want to.

Do you have the free will to ignore the issue over whether free will exists?

I'll do a write up on this now. Good question. I went through Coral relatively fast so I'm sure there is plenty of pros of Stage Coral that I missed and need to go back and integrate. I went through stages Orange and Coral the fastest on the Spiral. A lot of it is going back to how I felt at Coral. It's not just how you think at a Spiral Stage, it's how you feel at that stage that's just as important. Each Spiral Stage has a characteristic feel or energy to it. There's a characteristic cognitive and emotional signature to each Spiral Stage that can be mapped by whomever wants to devote their Work Day time to working on that project.

@CreamCat Aw. Thanks man! Let's dig into it.

I wanna watch his video on Coral even if it's long.

This explains Coral well: Stage Red feels like they need to create themselves into God in the world. Coral realizes they already are God without a need to create themselves into God. Stage Red is an aping of Stage Coral. Actually when you get to Teal you'll realize that the pros of Red need to be integrated with the pros of Coral. It's not one or the other it's one and the other. The 'exclusive or' gets replaced by an 'and' at Stage Teal.

It depends on how we define responsibility. Can you post his video?

You want to allow in Dragon Energy but hone it in a positive rather than a negative direction. If you have Dragon Energy, use it. Do it, don't let it do you.

I watched that video hoping for more to say the least. When I was going through Coral I tried to find guidance and I realized Coral is kind of an uncharted territory. Plenty of people have hit Coral though, it's just the vMeme hasn't been defined yet in Spiral Dynamics very well. That's video is not good for Coral.

An intimate relationship will make you happier if you're already happy all by yourself. But an intimate relationship will not make a person happy who is not happy all by themselves.

I wasn't impressed with that video. It's quite a bit off as I recall.

Coral is probably gonna be only for people who read.

Nice insight. Each Spiral Stage has their own characteristic or stereotypical set of archetypes for filling the human need of spirituality.

I will watch this video right now with my accountability partner. Thanks.

It's a great personal development model that Leo should cover in detail. Cover each chakra in it's own video.

Liberated from what exactly? If one believes that they're liberated, they should be able to state what they're liberated from. Just to say I'm liberated without giving that from what is liable to be an incomplete idea and/or a half-baked thought.

All I'm saying is be mindful that there are many stories of "God" not just one's own white-knuckle clung to story.

Is that the only definition of the word "God"? That particular definition of God has a history to it. There are many concepts of God; why assume that's the "one right one"?

Stage Orange is often demonized by people who haven't yet integrated the pros (as in pros and cons) of Stage Orange. The pros of Stage Orange are advanced but a lot of people who think they're advanced pooh pooh the pros of Stage Orange AND pooh pooh integrating the pros of Stage Orange.