Joseph Maynor

Good. You're thinking. That's what we want. Why do you think that? Does INTP capture the energy of Orange more than any other type does? That's what I'm doing is trying to find the one Myer-Briggs type that best captures the energy of each Spiral stage. That's the task that I was working with.

Here's some work my accountability partner and I did. Personal development models are just connections, don't make more of them than they are. It's good to make connections, just don't white-knuckle cling to them. But don't be so stubborn that you fail to make connections. These are just models. That's all they are. Your life is not gonna fall apart because God forbid you applied some model. In fact, you'll open your mind up by so doing -- so long as you don't start to take your own bullshit too seriously. Have fun and use your mental genius to see connections that most people don't even care to make. Every Spiral Stage does sort of resonate with a MBTI type. That doesn't mean that people at that MBTI type are gonna be that color though. You gotta be able to have an open enough mind where you don't stop yourself from engaging in this kind of outside-the-box thinking. This is exactly what you should be doing with all your models, looking for connections and ways to integrate them. So what if you're wrong! Nobody is gonna die if you're wrong about how you re-wire your models. And they are your models because they're in your head. Experiment with everything! Beige - ESFP Purple - ESFJ Red - ESTP Blue - ESTJ Orange - ENTJ Green - ENFJ Yellow - INTJ Turquoise - INFJ Coral - TO BE DETERMINED Teal - TO BE DETERMINED https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers–Briggs_Type_Indicator

Make whatever connections you want to. They're your models. You don't need anybody's permission to use your models in any way you want to. Anything in your mind is yours to experiment with how you see fit. You tell us what connections you see between your models. Hopefully you get what I'm trying to communicate to you here. Don't let anybody tell you how to think. If you're wrong, so what, you'll learn that if it's important. But you'll learn more by taking full ownership of your mental models. This requires being independent-minded. I don't particularly like the idea that the Spiral applies to multiple axes or dimensions of life. To me that's B.S. But the point is I have my own ideas. I don't care that someone sees things differently except to see if their model is better than mine for me. See, it all comes back to for me for me. I don't need to ask anybody's permission for anything. I don't seek that. Everybody else is making shit up just like you are and they wanna be right, but that's their trip not yours. It means nothing to you that someone else wants to feel right in their own mind about the appropriateness of inappropriateness of your models.

I would love to. Shadow Work is all about getting to know your own wiring. Shadow Work is like Life Purpose work; it's getting to know yourself better. That work is right up my alley.

Somebody should so a Shadow Work course. A course where you're made aware of what's in your shadow and then given some exercises to work on that.

You can't heal what you don't see. You gotta know what's in your shadow first before you can work to heal it. This is a knowledge process.

Jesus embodies "the Child" archetype and "the Hero" archetype which is a kind of Stage Green vibe. Stage Blue has "the Hero" archetype but lacks "the Child" archetype. Stage Blue is much more masculine than the "Jesus" archetype is. Stage Green is what Stage Blue likes to think of themselves as, so many the Jesus archetype taps into the inspiration of ideal self-reflection to the Stage Blue Christian. And God lol

Bernie would be great as an experiment. it's like throwing the opposite input in the system to see what it outputs. Then we look at the data. We got the Trump data, the Bernie data, the Obama data, the G.W. Bush data. These are all very different personalities in the same job. Bernie -- Green Obama -- Yellow G.W. Bush -- Blue Trump -- Red

Blue resonates with "The Hero" Archetype. https://frithluton.com/articles/hero-archetype/

Stage Red vs. Stage Blue

Stage Red is all about creating and developing themselves to be a God among inferior humans in this world. That has pros and cons to it. Stage Red has a good side and a bad side. You wanna take the good side and leave the bad side of Stage Red. This is the same for each and every Spiral stage: take the good side and leave the bad side of each stage.

Trump is centered around Stage Red although his personas can shift into Blue and Orange when it serves his Ego-Heartbodymind to do so.

No. Self-esteem is entirely changeable. This is one of the great things about life.

I like the treadmill. If you use that everyday you'll get fit.

I think the key characteristic of Coral for me is I felt like I was the only thing that existed. I also recall integrating the Ego back from Turquoises' shadow. Even though I thought Ego was an illusion at Coral, I was cool with Ego because I realized it's just a story, an experience, a movie if you will. And I knew as God that anything that happened to my Ego wouldn't affect me. In the same way that you get up from your seat in a movie theater after the movie's over and walk out the door -- no matter how brutal the movie was. The movie can't hurt you. That's the insight of Coral. Maya cannot hurt you. Coral sees all experiences as existing within himself or herself. Coral sees that there's nothing behind the scenes with Experience. Coral is as high as you're gonna go by clinging to Metaphysics and Truth. To transcend Coral and get to Teal, you gotta loosen your grip on Metaphysics and to Truth. Coral is in a way the end of the line when it comes to the mind's theories of truth and reality. And you can either stay there at Coral, or you can kind of shake that clinging to that masculine Truth free, and realize that there's a paradox between Being (Yin) and Truth (Yang) that you gotta work both ends of. Coral is very masculine, and it's clinging to Truth which is masculine. I am God is very masculine. Teal realizes that Coral still hasn't integrated Yin and Yang sufficiently yet. Coral is still too stuck in the Mind as high up on the Spiral as it is.

Rationalize it however you want to.

Do you have the free will to ignore the issue over whether free will exists?

I'll do a write up on this now. Good question. I went through Coral relatively fast so I'm sure there is plenty of pros of Stage Coral that I missed and need to go back and integrate. I went through stages Orange and Coral the fastest on the Spiral. A lot of it is going back to how I felt at Coral. It's not just how you think at a Spiral Stage, it's how you feel at that stage that's just as important. Each Spiral Stage has a characteristic feel or energy to it. There's a characteristic cognitive and emotional signature to each Spiral Stage that can be mapped by whomever wants to devote their Work Day time to working on that project.

@CreamCat Aw. Thanks man! Let's dig into it.

I wanna watch his video on Coral even if it's long.

This explains Coral well: Stage Red feels like they need to create themselves into God in the world. Coral realizes they already are God without a need to create themselves into God. Stage Red is an aping of Stage Coral. Actually when you get to Teal you'll realize that the pros of Red need to be integrated with the pros of Coral. It's not one or the other it's one and the other. The 'exclusive or' gets replaced by an 'and' at Stage Teal.

It depends on how we define responsibility. Can you post his video?

You want to allow in Dragon Energy but hone it in a positive rather than a negative direction. If you have Dragon Energy, use it. Do it, don't let it do you.

I watched that video hoping for more to say the least. When I was going through Coral I tried to find guidance and I realized Coral is kind of an uncharted territory. Plenty of people have hit Coral though, it's just the vMeme hasn't been defined yet in Spiral Dynamics very well. That's video is not good for Coral.