Joseph Maynor

Can spiritual people become egoless? I saw Leo make this comment under the Epistemology YouTube video: "Spiritual people can be ambitious and creative and egoless. That's our goal." Another one: "Nuke the ego with spiritual work alongside that. The ideal is ambitious but not egotistical." I've never met a person who has nuked their ego. I've met people who claim to, but then I discovered through direct experience that they are incorrect. The ego just changed its clothing and style somewhat, but not entirely. They have a spiritualized ego now.

I can upload that book list if that is ok.

There seems to be an underlying fear here that I'm picking up that intellect somehow corrupts reality.

True. I was reading it more like when you are authentic and embody Love you create less demons. You attract less demons due to your energy.

I like this. This is actually very profound and true. Read the way I'm reading it of course.

I would be careful with this one.

Not sure I agree that morality is somehow an illusion in spirituality.

I'm having a problem with the there is no morality thing, that's been bugging me. I know that's not true, but I'm trying to figure out what could lead a person to believe that.

Start the thread.

Seems like there's an inconsistency with how philosophy is being used.

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Whaat?

Ask Ralston.

Especially on the Internet.

The fact of the matter is -- we all need money or resources to survive, which causes all of us to compromise what we would ideally think is correct with a capital "C".

I would look at this one.

I don't know but something lol. Haha. Something.

I don't feel like everyone is corrupt by definition. That's a very nerdy way to think about reality.

Similar to Ralston too. He actually unfortunately passed away a couple of years ago.

@Xonas Pitfall Think about this: How would a person act if they thought morality doesn't exist?

@Xonas Pitfall This is what morality is. The theory of good behavior.

Really? To me he seems pretty middle of the road. He's not boring, but he's not trying too hard either.

Notice I had to catch your ball of "experience" here too, thank you. It's a good metaphor. Yes we can't escape being relational, I agree. Emotions I don't think obstruct anything per se, although they definitely can. Emotions also draw us toward Relation which is Love. I'm curious as to what you think a proper act of communicating is.