Joseph Maynor

You can actually abstract this conclusion to cover almost any human activity actually. I'm not a huge fan of sports, but I will say this in its defense -- most people don't understand the intricacies that are going on and the strategies that are going on in a football game. It's deeper than it looks on the surface.

Distract yourselves with humor ad infinitum maybe?

What inspires me about Plato is essentially he's an artist. He's a dramatist. The philosophy is presented thru drama. What he shows is kinda the opposite of Descartes who thought philosophy could be done in an armchair or Aristotle who thought philosophy is an abstraction from voluminous facts. Plato realized philosophy is a kind of performance art. People miss this when they focus on the arguments in his work. It's more like a dramatist exposing a philosophical set of plays than an analyst trying to make a point.

This is where I think self-help spreads a false message. You can't fake abundance. Abundance means a strength in something. To have a strength you have to be willing to work hard in a specific area.

Yes. Basically, I have a component of Absolute Beauty in my spirituality that appears to be very rare.

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The same thing can be said for thoughts and intellect. It's interesting how there is really a middle way between thought and feeling that is best.

1. Ego is widely misunderstood in Spirituality 2. Self-help and Spirituality are not mutually exclusive 3. The intellect can't be sidelined in Spirituality consistently 4. Feeling can't be sidelined in Spirituality consistently 5. Intuition is more important than most people seem to know 6. The there is no you thing gets old and starts to be used defensively 7. The there is no separate self thing gets old and starts to be used defensively 8. Morality matters to Spirituality

This is great. I would say that moral indignation causes anger which is similar to your #6 which causes deception. I kinda disagree with 1 and 2 to certain extent. 4 a little bit. 5 a little bit. 7 and 8 a little bit. But this is just me. I like 6 though. We agree with #3.

Of course. I have no dog in this fight though since the Niners are out.

This isn't going to be popular, but honor your feelings and reactions more. We want to bury how we feel instead of realizing we're underdeveloped with regard to honoring our feeling.

Yes. Writing more specifically here.

Interesting. I would say yes and no. There is a survival component and also a Divine component. It's hard not to mix these up. And it's hard to work on these both at the same time, since they have almost opposite values. Certainty is not necessarily only human, it's also Divine. That's the role of the Divine to provide a greater context to the human without wiping it out. IMO only of course.

Sometimes authority is good though. We want feedback. I don't know why. Maybe inspiration to change in a way we think suits us.

Yes. But one thing to consider. Only if you let it. We need to discuss how power works.

Sometimes it's good to ignore this and do stuff too.

@Hojo I liked your intellectual arguing exception. I thought that was cute. Most people won't admit that in spiritual circles. Yeah it's good to exchange ideas.

This is the predictable objection.

I think this is right. Make sure you're not making assumptions of a relationship that is not real. You have to have a sense of what true friendship means.

This reminds me of Whitehead's philosophy, but taken to the next level. Not a lot of people think like this.

You too friend.

I'm sorry. I'm a highly intuitive person. I pick up a sense of things by insight mostly.

Original version by Bob Dylan

But isn't this a kind of cope for having social insecurity?