Sandroew

Do you have a good method to fall asleep quickly that we might not know about?

Maybe it's time for you to get some fresh air buddy.

Simply put, whatever buddy.

I met a person who actually understands that there is transcendental knowledge - as opposed to scientific method which is about dissecting reality to make distinctions. He also understands the difference between map and territory. These people exist and they are out there. This particular person also has 3 doctor titles. He is a fucking menace.

Infinity

I had a shroom trip many years ago, where I felt everything that has ever happened, happened FOR me. I guess today I would call it a solipsist experience, but it was accompanied by a feeling of love I can only compare to what i experienced on ecstasy before. I think I integrated it pretty nicely since then, with Leo's teachings for example and in some further trips, but that feeling I had then never occurred in that intensity again. (It was a heroic dose and I have not done that much ever since, so it just makes sense.) Sometimes it is baffling to see how close minded people are and I think it's because they never had even a glimpse of this Love.

@bambi I think a lot of this comes down to the fact that we are basically communicating in a few sentences each comment. You can only convey an eeny tiny bit of truth in each comment. It isnt common to come to a forum and leave well thought out 100 pages long answers and even if you did not a lot of people are going to read it. Its the style of communication thats a limiting factor here. And then of course we choose to talk about the most advanced, philosophycal, abstract etc. themes in this style, so what do you expect at this point beyond confusion ? LOL

That is also true, you are taking it to the next level here, completing a full circle. Good freaking job brother. Nice explanation too. Just for your comment it was already worth to start this topic (not to disregard others!!). Im too busy right now to fully look into everything you just said there, but i'll take time to for that and im looking forward for reading more from you.

Again, im not looking for an explanation of enlightenment. I understand it very well intellectually. I wish to create this definition for us, so when we are talking about this phenomenon, we woudl not have to have the same conversations all the time. Maybe im delusional for trying this.

Also, @Inliytened1 I would argue against this. I think one can have just the feeling of separateness torn down, without having these other deeper truths realized. Like the dissolution of separateness is the first step. Of course im not talking from experience here.

Thank you everyone for the comments. <3 Since there was not a lot of answers, there is not much to go on here. I guess we can agree upon atleast two things here: 1. The "substance" of enlightenment in the classical sense is the lack of separateness inbetween I and outside world 2. This needs to be present in the person's everyday experience in order to talk about an "enlightened person" or the person has to have the ability to get into it on command. Meaning i would exclude people from the definition who has had enlightenment experiences (from doing yoga, meditation, psychedelics or in any way), but its not their standard way to function. Would you agree to this ? For the people who are commenting there is no such thing as an enlightened person, i understand you very well. My goal here is to create a definition, that we can all agree upon, when we are talking about this phenomenon (but have so many different ways of saying it). Sort of like creating an actualzed.org forum dictionary if that makes sense. If you have a different way to refer to this, like @UnbornTao did ("Directly conscious of her nature."), thats fair game, please submit your answers! (Maybe i'll just quote Leo from one of his videos to achieve this and then there is that. Lol)

@Princess Arabia Nevermind me im just joking around, but we are spamming the topic too much. @stephenkettley He can be glad that we gave The Hot Chick a new perspective.

@Princess Arabia You would do the helicopter for sure! Hahahah

@Keryo Koffa What kind of Rob Schneider-esque example is that my friend!

Agreed. Still it is good to have a definition, because of the nature of spiritual talk and people. I want to bring clarity in the language, if that makes sense.