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Then he goes on in his videos about how every woman is BPD and will cheat. I mean duh if this is your crowd.

Because most of the time is fear based behaviour. It is fear of intimacy, fear of not being good enough, fear of being rejected. I can sense it in the way they talk and they behave in their dating life very easily. I am not sure about Logan Paul or Mike Majlak, I have no idea who they are.

I have seen way more often men sabotage their relationships by keeping their options open and dating around instead of exploring connection they have in front of them. Especially in the pickup communities which the OP does.

Top notch answer. Thank you for that.

Getting to know the person on deep level, being vulnerable with your truth with them in order to find out if both parties are compatible to build a life together. The "intention" behind is that you are aiming for relationship.

You can screen her and get to know her via dating intentionally, not need to put up barriers and artificial timelines.

I mean, you talk about some tough game all the time on the forum. And then you open a post like this that just reeks of insecurity. It is really for contemplation why do you care about such stuff as guys laughing at you etc. But to the topic... How did you decide she is "relationships" material for you? Based on what? You are attracted to her, that is important, but besides that? And what is your long term vision for your life? In general and in regards to relationships? Body count in itself is a complicated topic. I went through phases of being really insecure and caring about it, then not caring at all to now some sort of middle ground. Why does it matter to you?

If that is all you care about, enjoy life I guess.

You could keep the condescending approach to yourself and do some self inquiry before you respond.

Of course. Research attachment theory.

What a ragebait

Yes but negotation in the sake of wellbeing of both parties. Not threats such as "I will leave if you do not do as I desire".

But relationships are not some negotiation table like in business. Not the healthy ones at very least. That is the core problem of this.

Dude why do you keep talking to me like I do not know pickup. I have been engaged for a long time in it. There are different modalities of pickup, some are more healthy, some less. But this is a bad habbit to pickup if you want to lead healthy relationship. This is not abundance, this is avoidance. Instead of resolving the conflict you threaten breakup, she is insecure (surprise) so she leans back into it. Any healthy woman would just walk away. Either resolve the conflict like a mature human or decide that she is not aligned with you enough for you to invest energy and break up with her. That is real abundance. This is just masked neediness. Real abundance would be if you were able to walk away from a relationship knowing that you will not get another one.

That is not true abundance. Abundance is another "technique" pickup invented anyways. Be careful.

Yes, but I can recognize unhelpful energy without studying it deeply.

This will work only on deeply insecure woman. Be careful to not "pickup" bad habbits along your pickup journey.

Focusing on negative content will taint your energy which will translate into socializing.

I do not think learning some toxic strategies of woman are gonna help you with that though, quite contrary.

I would spend my energy in more healthy directions tbh.

Not disputing that;)

I would argue that some level of approach anxiety is healthy and warranted even after years and after having success. I still get anxious when approaching a woman I like, A lot of guys who have no fear simply dissociated from their own emotions, not good.

Hard to make arguments for or against this since people are so much full of projections, idealizations and self interests around this. I personally think it is better to keep it simple with my partner - it is hard to have enough self awareness if your desire to have more woman in your life is coming from a healthy place. Besides, these days I even struggle to make friends I would be aligned with, can't imagine meeting that many woman I would want to keep around.

I agree with this so much. I never really sought out stopping of the avoidant patterns in my life and facing my own inner misery. I was forced by life to do it.

Because it touches the wound that were created by our parents. They saw us and rejected us (partially) and so it creates the feeling of us not being good enough thus the need to perform and if we do not perform and get rejected for this, the wound gets reactivated. Probably you can't know someone completely, that person would have to know themself in the first place. But you can reach a point of true vulnerability and being seen.