Valach

Hmmm, I think it's hard to do because I am of the belief that a lot of attraction is even more subconscious than traditional PUA would make you believe. There are the more visible aspects of a person that attracts us such as looks, behaviour, confidence, humor, wit, subcommunication etc. But then there is the whole aspect of this burried deep down in our psyche such as how we relate to persons shadows, how much they remind us of our primary care givers, how familiar the whole dynamic with their relating feels etc. I always used to joke that it was not just looks and personality that I liked about my ex. What was driving me towards her as well was that my demons were really attracted to her demons. So it is a very complex things and some aspects of it are not really that much in our control. The more I think about it the more I belief that a lot of PUA is essentially playing into shadows that are the most common among woman. Who knows how would the society and the whole dating game look like if we all healed.

It is kind of what I meant. When you are screening for longterm relationships, there is gonna be some boredom/seriousness between the two of you. You can coast on just good vibes and emotional stimulations but then you don't really know the person and she does not know you. I do not really like the route that gets often repeated in the pickup community - that you start the longterm relationship the same way you start casual one. This does not lead to longterm satisfaction. At least in my (very subjective) opinion.

Agreed. Feels like game is not really tailored for finding a quality relationship. It is after all gamey and real relationships are about autheticity and vulnerability.

Precisely. That's the danger of going down the path of just playing into woman's shadows/desires.

Agree. Problem I've found with this is that by engaging in shadow-based games, you create your own shadow for yourself.

Glad to hear that! Keep it up I mean feeling better, not meeting traumatized woman

How are you doing now with some days passed? Is it all better for you?

Sure, but it is way better for your psychology to believe that looks do not matter than whatever Clav is doing.

If you truly feel like you can't find woman you like, then I suppose you could look into other alternatives to meeting people. Joining social circles, even dating apps etc.

I would say for daygame way more european cities are available due to them being way more pedastrian oriented. Any city above 1 million of people should satisfy that. Which Tbilisi is as well to be honest.

Yeah, well night clubs are not really spot to look for partner. It's more about getting the experience with woman in general.

But template questions are exactly how you do not get to know someone. It is just you running a script. Like I understand wanting some backup technical lines for gaming like openers, escalation, leading etc. But getting to know someone? LIke what do you expect somebody to come up with? Just ask "what do you like to do?" Idk....

Of course. I was being simplistic. Finding a partner is easier when you have a lot of options. That was my point.

My experience is that attractive woman who take care of themselfs are usually quite ambitious and move to big cities to study and stay there. Those who remain get taken up fairly quickly.

Basically this. In my experience the quality woman in small towns get taken up really fast. So if you are 30 and single, you are gonna struggle finding your match.

I am originally from a city of 20k people and moved to Prague of 1.5 million. The difference between the woman in both places is insane. I do not think after my experience with woman from Prague I could even meet someone I like in my original city. If you just want sex, fine, whatever. But if you want partner, you need quality of choices.

Yea. But it's better to be competing for 1 woman with 3 other guys than to not have any woman you want in the first place.

I mean, I get what do you mean but what do you want to hear then? You are getting to know them for some reason. Either you are curious about them or you are vetting them for long-term compatibility. And noone can answer these questions for you since if you are curious I do not know what aspects of the person drive curiosity for you and if you are screening for long term compatibility I can't answer that since I do not know what your values are for long-term match. I could tell you what my values are and what I would ask for if I was looking for relationship and what I think can reveal a healthy relationship. But idk if that is useful for you at this stage. Fundamentally, do you want to get to know the person? Or do you want to appear like you want to get to know them?

Well you kind of need more people to have a better chance of meeting someone you like. Big cities have this advantage over some small town.

You haven't been around for long then

It is very hard to develop this skillset if you are not forced by the world to do so. And young, attractive woman are simply not forced into that. It really is a curse for them.

Agreed, but that is a lifelong process. The more mature I get the more I realize how unaware I am.

How would you map development and maturity on trauma? I feel like it is hard to differentiate between this for me because a person might be relatively mature (self aware, conscious etc.), yet at the same time many of his/hers desires and preferences will be stemming from unresolved trauma. I wouldn't say that makes the person immature but that person might look like that.

How so? I am still standing behind both things. Do not lie to people - it is not good for you and it can hurt them. Obviously these are my subjective values, everyone is free to develop their own. Yeah. I've heard Prague is one of the best in Europe from couple of foreign PUAs whom I met here. I would not say my standards are low - but again, that is a subjective thing. They do not have an hour to walk around and talk to woman they actually might want to date or take things further, yet they should spend their time flirting with woman they do not like? How does that make any sense? Finding a good partner requires some effort and time investment, we both know that. Same thing happened to me and it is always heartwarming. But that usually happened when they saw me being authentic and truthful. Usually me talking to woman I wanted to meet, yet they were taken or something like that. Woman are the best lie detector there is, they will see through your dishonesty. Specially if they are healthy. And that is precisely my issue with the whole pickup stuff. This is objectifying of woman. Comparing them to jobs. As if you need to climb them up like in some corporate ladder. Meeting people or finding a partner is not some hard skill like engineering/finance. This is an innergame issue - it is about a relationship you have towards yourself. I am not attacking you or @Miguel1 either. I have a lot of respect for both of you and I enjoy reading the stuff your write on here. But I still stand behind my point. Everything is subjective of course. But in my opinion - being dishonest is already setting up a foundation into learning the bad type of social skills you want. It is externally focused - Instead of asking yourself "How do I express myself truthfully" you ask yourself "How do I win this person over". Exposure is important. Social practice is important. Therapy is important. But there are many ways to practice that don't require pretending attraction. Talk to strangers. Make friends. Practice conversations. Practice humor. Practice confidence. Then reserve expressions of romantic interest for women you're actually interested in. PS: Sorry, I had much longer response but it did not get sent for some reason

Been there about a month ago. I can confirm that it was packed with beautiful woman.