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To further this discussion consider this quote from the movie matrix by cypher who asked the machines to be plugged into the matrix again. "You know.. I know this steak doesn't exist. I know when I put it in my mouth; the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy, and delicious. After nine years.. you know what I realize? Ignorance is bliss."

@bejapuskas I know that video, but I dont ask if people are satisfyed with being enlightened. I just want to know if they are satisfyed with how reality works at the fundamental level. You dont need to be enlightened to know that.

Leo said the only way prayer as a way to god could work is if its meditative. The way I think Prayer is supposed to work is more like Bhakti Yoga where you worship an entity. So even if you sit down and you wish for silly stuff, what is this fundamentally? You are surrendering yourself to a higher power. You give up control. I think thats what its about, and not silencing the mind like in meditation. If you really suffered and you get on your knees with tears in your eyes and just pray to god to take the steering wheel or do something to get your through this, thats true devotion and I think it might be able to trigger a spiritual experience. Of course sitting down 5 minutes and wishing for a sports car wont cut it.

we dont know how harmful 5-meo really is. Granted, it doesnt seem addictive but from what I read its elevating blood pressure and heart rate, in that regard it could put as much strain on your cardio system as a line of cocaine. Ketamine on the other hand is an anaesthetic, the doses to put you to sleep in hospitals are much higher than "recreational" doses and still regarded as safe. Problems are starting when you do it every day, but its not physically addictive. And the psychological addiction is also not like cocaine or meth because it doesnt flood your reward centers.

@Leo Gura All Im saying is there are some social rules that need to be taken into consideration. Starting with "Hey I found you attractive" might make you stand out but for 99% of guys probably not in a good way. I mean there is a reason most guys dont do that, it gives off a weird vibe. If you dont have the confidence of a rock star girls will just smell it on you that you do this to others or that you are just running some weird social experiments. Most guys simply wont be able sell it in that way that they are hyper confident and just express themselves freely, especially if you are the kind of guy that looks up online how to pick up girls. I also think there is a good chance a lot of girls dont want that extremely confident and open type of guy but someone who is more down to earth. They probably wont shut you down because after all you still approached but you still have to use your inuition about what you can pull off in terms off which social rules to break and which rules not.

Man I know Im the least experienced with women here but that "I found you attractive" approach is kinda stupid. its like "okay, now what?". On the women this works any other approach would have worked also, thats not proof its a good idea. I think the better approach would be to start some conversation and then end it with can I get your number and bring the I find you attractive line at the end if you really must, but its implied anyway.

Actualized.org: "Something happend, get well soon!", "Hes studying our cult behaviour", "This is a deep lesson about attachement, cant you see it?", "" Leo : "Sorry I had problems with my internet provider"

Whats up with the schedule? There seems to be some kind of delay ever week..

How can you let this not get to you as a guy?

I know its a really ego thing to say.. but But what if your whole purpose in life is to suffer despite being a good person and then finally get randomly killed for no reasom by some thug so he can learn his lesson in prison, get freed early, become more conscious, write some books and is hailed as a hero at the end of his life. Just imagine if this is your destiny, how do you surrender to that? How would your life be like if you knew this is the sole purpose of why you were born? Its all for the greater good right...?

@YaNanNallari Yeah its great and served a greater good in the end. But I want you to imagine this is literally your life. Its like an ego test. How ok would you be with being killed so some thug can learn his lesson? Some people are killed for this reason after all. Like Leo said, the suffering is real.

@YaNanNallari How would consciousness protect you from this fate?

I'm just exploring the implications.

My question was exactly how to get that confidence and masculinity when you have all that baggage with 10 years of failure and no romantic success attached to you. I cant just forget about it, and I cant tell myself I'm a catch when I've actually got zero evidence to support it.

- How to deal with strong negative emotions: helped me get in touch with my emotions - Why you are neurotic: Made me more critical of my own mind - Spiral Dynamics Series: No words needed, powerful model I knew nothing about that put a lot of stuff going on in politics into place immediately for me.

I give Leo the benefit of the doubt and think hes just an authentic dude whos geniunly interrested in spirituality and existential questions. His left brained way of thinking just happened to resonate really well with me, but I understand that it can seem a bit "off" to the average person. But even if he's not, the value of the teachings is still there and it can all be researched and traced back, its not a made up belief system like scientology. Its better not to get involved too much in the forum and the drama that emerges from these communities.

So ive been at it for over a year now but there are still some times when I just go "What the fuck am I doing here?" and it feels like its all not real or it doesnt work for me. And all these people talking about these experiences are deluded. How do you handle this, its not really ego backslash right? Because on Ego backlash you still know its real and its working because you wouldnt backlash. What are you gonna do, just keep going and hope for a sign from god ? For example Ive been doing daily kriya for some months now and I still dont feel any energy moving in my spine or anything remotely like that. All that happened really is what you expect happens if you stretch and hold your breath. How do I even know if I made progress in yoga?

I remember ever since I was a young teenager I get these very lucid moments for about 10 minutes out of nowhere where it suddenly for no reason dawns on me that reality is real. Then you look around and you are totally mindfucked by how this is even possible, how you are even alive. But Its not really a peaceful moment, its like something big just dawned on you and you are really confused about what reality even is. But then of course you think "so what are you gonna do about it anyway?" and you get back to living your life. I noticed I get these more since I do yoga, mostly outside of the practice at random moments. Does this have anything to do with spirituality or is it just a brain quirk like a deja-vu? My guess is that everyone has these moments, but I didnt really talk about it with anyone, because what are they gonna say? Everyone knows of course its a mindfuck but when the gut feeling is not there its just thoughts in your head. Like right now, I can write this down but I dont feel the reality of the situation like that right now, but I had a moment like that yesterday.

i just realized that as a guy you cant honestly self actualize and be good with girls at the same time. Just think about what does it take if you want to be good with girls? - Manipulation, being dishonest, playing games like ignoring her etc. - Making yourself look better than you are, be materialistic, be success oriented - Be extroverted, dont give a shit about anybody than yourself - Being self confident to the point of narcisim, having a big ego - Play the social media game constantly / narcisim - One-up and dominate other guys, dont be a "friendly" or soft guy. - Be into all kinds of low-consciousness stuff like partying and drinking. - Being obsessed with your appearance and gym, becoming a "bro". Of course these are extremes but in a general sense what this website does is it moves you away from all of these thing. If you want to be the kind of guy you become through self actualization & spirituality you have to admit that it makes you very unattractive to women, especially once you move into spiral dynamics stage green. Sure you can do that stuff in secret, learn pickup and do the whole alpha-male thing in front of girls but how long will you be able to hold that up? Its going against your core values and women will notice that you are not only bullshitting them but yourself too. The typical ignorant bro can get girls because thats how he is, he can authentically behave this way. You cant just act like that, you have to become it to the core.

@aurum I cant say this is true from my subjective experience. The guys I know who have no problems with women are also the tallest and best looking ones. Girls will approach these guys, stalk them on social media and lust over them. Really good looking and confident women who would give an average guy hell for even looking in their direction will send these guys awkward messages and behave like an insecure school girl. This is the power of looks alone.

I noticed in your videos about law of attraction you tried to strip away all the supposed "paranormal" forces that are at work. The videos are quite old, did you change your mind on that? After all if all is mind, wouldnt it be plausible that thoughts can manifest external cricumstances?

@ZeN That sucks its almost the same for me, everytime I pursued a girl she suddenly ended up with one of my friends or someone else. I can also feel the part of seeing it happen for everyone else and thinking there is no chance it will not happen for you at some point. And suddenly you wake up and you are 30 and nothing at all happened. I agree about staying positive about it, what else can you really do? You cant let this bullshit run your life.

@Shin I still hold the believe that a women would make me happier. How could I not? Everyone is having sex, everyone is talking about relationships and its such a big part of everyones life. And its so normal and easy for everyone else, and Im here completely left out despite trying hard for years. And on top of that are the biological cravings and im at an age where I should think about children and not having my first experiences. How could I ever truly just believe its not worth pursuing?