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@Rilles At least it would feel like progress if something with a girl would finally work out. Telling myself I should be happy when I'm lonely is nice theory but I can tell this to myself all day long, and I did, but I cant believe it on a deep level. I'm still human, its normal to want an intimate connection with someone, why should I deny that. Everybody who says you should be happy alone or you dont deserve someone are people who easily get into relationships or are asexual.

Its waves of negative emotion that go through my body many times per day, every day. They stem from my monkey mind interpreting my past or being anxious about my future. I can notice all of this happening alright, but it still happens every day. My mind is running wild, I'm neurotic as fuck. My psychology is fucked and I'm working my ass of every day to unwire this mess. It stems from a decade of depression and failure with the opposite sex.

@Outer Meditation mainly, and for a bit over a month kriya yoga. I'm still to damn neurotic for anybody to have a relationship with me.

@OuterI've been doing spiritual practice daily for over a year you dont have to tell me that. Oh boy, Just another 20 years to go (If I'm lucky) to be free of suffering and maybe start dating. The question remains. Why not do heroin today?

@Mikael89 I knew it. Fuck this gay earth Sometimes you suffer so much and you have so much bad luck in a row. The only thing you can do is lean back and laugh at the absurdity of reality.

@Outer I knew this answer would come. So what should I do? I can ask this question all day long. Is you suggestion that I should do self inquiry for 100.000 hours now? Why not just do heroin today and be done with it?

@Mikael89 I think we have a simmilar story. No success with girls despite trying for over a decade, depressed, neurotic, confused, nihilistic and going on 30 with no sign of anything changing. Found this site and got into spirituality as a "last" attempt to become a better person and somehow deal with the suffering.

Just trash this thread, its over 100 posts barely on the topic

So as it seems trip reports for this "radical" substance are rare id thought I share my experience with it. When I was a teenager like 18 years old we and some friends bought it because the extracts were legal at the time. We bought 25x but I now believe it was a very mild dose. I tried it multiple times and this is basically what happened. I ripped it through a bong and as soon as I inhaled it hit me immediately (somebody needs to be there to take the bong out of your hands). There were changes in visual and auditory perception but no real visuals, not like LSD and especially not like DMT. But i basically lost all sense of self instantly. You dont know who you are, who these people are or what even a human is - but it doesnt bother you or make you anxious. Your mind is pretty much empty but more in a retarded sort of way. Then you get all kinds of crazy ideas, like one time I thought gravity was going sideways and was attracted to the wall. One time I thought I heard a friend of mine yelling outside on the street and stuff like that. The whole thing lasted about 10 minutes every time and then you come slowly back and for some reason you sweat a lot afterwards. As I said the dose was probably low, my friends had basically the same experience. Nobody really hated the trip but also no one of use had any real desire to do it again after a couple times, especially because of the sweating. This was definitely not a breakthrough, just want to give a not-crazy perspective .

Can we get a very detailed yoga routine down and sticky it? Or maybe even better a video from @Leo Gura

@SFRL could you please continue that on PM

Can we please stay on the topic.

@Samra it may be exaragated but the truth is being a sensitive, emotional guy gets your zero girls while guys like that usually have multiple. It goes back to cavemen times when this stage-red behaviour was rewarded. Women are attracted to it on a subconscious level. Women lay back and let men compete, the ones who can dominate the other men physically get selected for reproduction. Thats just how it is, read the book "The Red Queen" for more information.

@Mikael89 thats maybe too harsh but these are all attractive qualities in man.

Anybody else feel like this sometimes? Is the average person really that unhappy? Most of the normal people I know seem pretty content with their lifes. They easily get into relationsships, dont have problems attracting the opposite sex, they find friends easily, they go happily to their soulless wage slavery job, they have materialistic goals and are happy when they finally can buy their new car and stuff like that. They dont even care about personal development and meditation, because it would add nothing to their life. They dont see the value in it. Lets be honest - most of the people here are coming from a place of suffering. Even Leo got into self-help/PUA because he didnt date until he was 26 or something. Why would you give a shit about how your psychology works or the nature of reality if your life is great and you just want to live a humble life and maybe start a family? Of course its all chimpery and they dont know it but what do you really gain by knowing this? Do you sometimes ask yourself why they have it so easy and you have to go through all this suffering that lead you to spirituality? Do you sometimes crave the blue pill and just want live your life in the matrix with all the other human batteries?

In your Life is a dream video (and in many others) you appeal to logic multiple times to convince the viewer of the idea that this life is a dream. But as you said, the rules in the waking dream are arbitrary simmilar to how night dreams dont need to follow consistent logic. So if life is a dream you cant trust logic, and if life is not a dream your logic for why it is a dream makes sense. How do you resolve this paradox?

@Your place at Heart dont want to be mean or anything but your memes kinda suck, but good on you for trying

Good idea. Its easy to talk the talk in a youtube video where you just disarm your own counterpoints ("But Leo")

I enjoy it too. its all in good fun

I just dreamt that I woke up... And I thought to myself "hey it would be nice to lucid dream next time, I once read about this method where you should look at your fingers and count them, well lets go back to sleep and try it". But I just couldnt sleep. Then I counted my fingers. Holy fuck, one was missing. I looked at my fingers and they were flimmering. Then it dawned on me. I was in my childrens room, but im not living with my parents anymore for two years. I was 100% lucid that I was in a dream at that point. I watched some swarm of flys fly at my window and was amazed how real it looked, and how that was generated by my mind. All the movements of every single fly, just my mind. But then I panicked. I wanted to wake up. But I just couldnt. How the fuck do I wake up? I was scared to leave my room because of what would await me. I remembered that I must lay in my flat, what weekday it was and thats where I must be. Wake the fuck up!!! I become worried something happened. I must be under an anaesthetic, something happened. I'm still conscious so I'm not dead, but I cant wake up. It must be some weird anaestethic causing this and I'm in the hospital! I finally went downstairs and into the living room. My mother was laying there on the couch. I had tears in my eyes and told her that I'm in a dream and I cant wake up, I'm worried something happened to me. She said nothing and her eyes flimmered between an open/closed eyelids state. Thats when it happened. I woke up. I was so mindfucked, not knowing what is real anymore and immediately counted my fingers, when I counted 4 I got a massive shock but I just forgot to count my thumb. This was 15 minutes ago. I just slept for 1 hour. Trying to get my grip on reality back before going back to sleep.

@SoonHei Yeah I'm 100% sure. It was so real. As I said I remembered my sober life clearly and what I did before going to sleep. It was like normal reality with the exception that stuff was flimmering. Im not a person who usually wakes up and asks himself if hes still dreaming, for me its like a switch is flipped immediately as soon as I wake up and I go about my day. This time it took about 20 minutes after waking up until reality felt solid again, because there was not much difference in how it "felt" in the dream. I really thought it was possible I was still in a dream after waking up and I know how ridiculous this sounds, I thought Im going crazy.

Whats the best way to eat vegetables besides the soup?

@Strikr scary,good I'm not the only one. No it doesnt make sense to my life. But the world seems less material right now, because everything looked and behaved so real and independent in my dream. I wonder if this is caused by yoga, I started daily practice 3 weeks ago, maybe I should take it slower. I'm not even into lucid dreaming! This finger thing was something I read 5+ years ago on the internet.

Im very curious about this. How does stretching certain parts of your body, visualizing certain things or putting your tongue in your throat lead to mystical experiences? What the fundamental mechanism at work here ?