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@egoless Sure, his personal stuff makes him vulnerable and authentic, but things like his etymology book and the exercises from his paid course doesn't. If someone gets on his/her hands on the exercises (like I did) and finds his life purpose using them, he would potentially lose 250 dollars.

@ahmet sukru @blazed @egoless The old video contained ALOT of personal stuff about Leo (the books he read, the seminars he went to, exercises he did, which are HIGHLY personal, his Me Sheet), outlines of his etymology book in great detail and even 8 exercises from his life purpose course (this one I copied and sent to @Leo Gura, sorry again, Leo!)

Yes, I was am in this newbie trap for as long as I started self-actualizing: I either had no vision or a very weak, sloppy, not compelling vision. I created one not so long ago but I don't feel like it motivates me. I realized the depth of the problem when I sat down to do a 1 hour SDS sit the day before yesterday and asking myself why the fuck am I doing this? Having a mini existential crisis and questioning my practiced led me here. I "recovered" a good chunck of my life purpose using hypnosis. I researched creating a vision before. They say that it should be a representation of your life 3/5 years from now and to write in present tense. Knowing this I created the weak vision I talked about earlier. I am doing Leo's death contemplation exercize this evening and plan to contemplate "What do I want to do with my life?". What kind of vision should I write (ideal day, "vision statement", etc.) and how? Any tips, suggestions or wake the fuck up-s? Thanks!

First of all, why the fuck do you want a silent mind? Ok, I experienced it, feels nice, but I had more beautiful experiences just only being conscious with thoughts still lying around. Notice that disbelieving is another thought. Not to mention disbelieving the disbelieving thought. If you want to work with thoughts, accept them, notice and get a deep, non-neurotic sense that thoughts aren't really a part of reality. Notice the depth of the "deception". When you are reading this, you are projecting thoughts onto pixels on a screen. And even these labels are just thoughts.

Did the death contemplation exercise again, always doing it when I need a kick in the ass. @Shiva Already experimented with alot of things but I am looking into expanding my horizons. I see a pattern in which I went with every single topic I explored in my short life. In the 2-3 months of doing hypnosis, contemplation, and the death contemplation exercise multiple times, it seems obvious that I have a deep unconscious desire for helping others to develop themselves. This desire may pass as well seeing my desire to become a board game designer, mathematician, and physicist eventually went away. I think thinking still helps. Thanks alot though!

I just watched Leo's retreat videos and there are some techniques he hasn't talked about: labeling the breath, just be conscious and abiding in emptiness.

Force thyself, enlightenment work and specific types of meditation techniques could show you that you are not what you think you are so you will loosen your "grip". After that, force yourself again.

Seeing that not allowing authenticity and superconducting is a waste of energy and bullshit. Then you will be vulnerable.

Agreeing with @Nahm, drop the fucking filter. Even if your god is the worst torturer, you have still experienced joy in your life. And that you can be grateful for. Spend more time being. This was an experience for me because I am not a grateful person. After meditating for 40 minutes and doing almost nothing for 80 minutes after that, I was shocked to see that I was grateful for this experience even just happening and almost cried.

I think that this video answers the question:

Spirituality is the search for permamemt happiness and for Truth.

I did a 1 hour SDS sit today and I felt strange sensations. I would like this thread to be a list of weird phenomenon in meditation and their possible causes/effects. List of sensations in my experience. If anyone has explanations of these, please let me know. If you encounter other ones or have similar experiences, please post them below: 1) Subtle to heavy shaking @Leo Gura already answered this one in this thread. 2) Gentle rocking of the body The exact feeling described here. 3) Sound and feeling of a small bubble popping over and over again in the gorge (with varying frequency. In an earlier session, I had one pop per breath-cycle, it changed to 3-4 per cycle this time) 4) Tingling sensation and vibration in the body If you have reached the vibrational state in astral projection, this is the exact feeling I felt. 5) Leg "freezing" I have experienced this for the first time in this 1 hour SDS session. After my legs fell asleep, it started to feel like something is boiling inside of my right leg (outer leg, I sat in Burmese), but it actually cools the leg instead of making it hot. The feeling spread to my right calf later. All of this I have experienced. What do you think? What causes these and what are the effects of these? Please let me know the explanations for these and if you have other phenomena occurred to you that isn't mentioned in this post, post it below so you will receive your explanations.

Experienced Leg Freezing multiple times now, it is just the thighs falling asleep.

Elaborate.

Just be aware of them as the most true pieces of information you have of something that is ready to be questioned. Some of them will impact your behaviour automatically, some will have no implications at all. Also, contemplate these questions: - What is insight integration? - How do I integrate insights? Contemplating and questioning your practices, insights and going meta on contemplation is one of the most powerful ways to use contemplation.

Because of ego, dude. Most people want to defend the image they have put up either consciously or unconsciously - most likely both. When you are in an emotional low and a random not-so-close friend hits you up, you don't want to tell a story about what happened to you, do you? This can be made "better" with authenticity. Your self-image and your actual "self" will become more and more similar. If you feel like not going around in circles and being manipulative and you are aware of all of this, go for it! Good luck!

If you ain't comfortable, fall back fucking asleep. You will see that there is no point in it. Maybe the shift happened so rapidly that you cannot handle it. Wish I was that WOKE.

I was like this when I was younger. In many Greek philosophies, there is a fictional sage character. The sage - even though it may be unrealistic - mastered the skill(s) that his philosophy teaches to an extreme degree. Think of enlightened and self-actualized people like sages. The goal may be unrealistic and most of humanity won't reach it, but it has been done before. Seems like you are setting goals to yourself which are way into the future and unrealistic. Accept yourself, learn to take action, and if it helps, lower your expectations.

I had a thought while in hypnosis that as your values change, your life purpose will change with it too, so you can't have one fix purpose. Is this true or one needs to create a life purpose for himself which is generic and flexible or both?

@How to be wise The way to flow is authenticity, and in it's ultimate form, yes, it is the surrender of control and the self - enlightenment. Authenticity will kill you. I am not enlightened and don't have the balls to work towards it, but I am becoming more and more authentic and less and less neurotically controlling. It results in more consciousness and less "selfishness".

@Johnson, realize that even though your intentions may be good, you are cutting people's learning curves. All wisdom, advice and help is relative. There are many stages in personal development in many scales, if you get at least one of them wrong for one person, the advice - no matter how foundational, deep or true it is - isn't going to do jack shit. Also, agreeing with Nahm. Stop fucking preaching and if you really think you need to change people, get down to their level and respect them as the way they are before helping them.

Awesome topic, I would love to see this one

If you are sure that it is intuition, follow it. Experiment. See if you are not kidding yourself with it. And if you are 100% sure, train yourself and surrender, but only if you see the value in it. "If I follow my intuition and give in, I'll end up alone, thats the biggest fear. I want the family life I didn't get to experience." (on my phone now, can't quote) Seems like you have a traumatic experience. You expressed it, you know what it is. Do some shadow work on it, test it with your intuition - but be careful, the ego may twist with it.

Dude! Even though they didn't go deep enough, this doesn't entitle you to judge (and even me to judge you because of your judgement ). Other than that, they are just at a lower level of awareness and personal development. It seems like that they are the "success will make us happy and there is only time for happiness" bunch. They are not ready to face their mind. thanks for sharing though! Good to know that people can experience these when they aren't ready.

Write down the pros and cons of the "firey" lifestyle to see if it is what you really want. It seems like to me that this flame is intuition. If that's what it is, you are lucky to have found it and it being active. Congratulations! The only defenses you will make against it is purely egotistical. It's not that you can't say something, it's just that your ego wants to keep it to himself rather than to say it. Practice surrender (the Do Nothing meditation technique is really good for this), practice authenticity. If you do this, you will see how neurotically you are controlling your life and by awareness alone, you will see that it's the "better" option and you will automatically gravitate towards it. Good luck!